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Earlier I was talking to some southern boomer...who clearly was some sort of conservative. Naturally the general topic of politics came up and he seemed to hold the political belief that 'everyone should mind their own business'.

I have heard this from conservative radio talking heads before. It is clearly some sort of conservative shibboleth. The democrats are bad cause they wanna tell people what to do etc. 

and I responded that you kinda have to mind other people's business because humans naturally form into tribes and it is the entire tribe that wins or loses. I suppose I could have simply mentioned that you have to do something about a murderer or something...but I was curious how he would respond to my comment about tribes. 

and predictably...he insisted that he is not a member of any group. This is another radio conservative talking point I have heard. It is the 'demonrats' who divide everyone by race but the ideologically pure Republicans are all mere individuals. 

I asked him if he considered himself a member of the United States 'group'...and he admitted he was. And I pointed out that if the usa was conquered by Mexico, it would have some impact on his life. 

At this point he got rather emotional and accused me of being a contrarian and he insisted we change the subject. He didn't have any sort of response to these glaringly obvious facts...but he clearly was unable to change his mind and it just upset him that I was pointing out obvious things. Basically, his brain was clearly hacked by the repetition of conservative pundit narratives.

and I cannot help but have a conspiratorial attitude to this...because it seems very clear that the mainstream conservative talking points seem almost deliberately designed to preclude conservatives from acquiring any sort of power. You cannot tell anyone else what to do, therefore you can't have power. You cannot act with any collective effort, therefore you can't have power. Jesus loves everyone and would never cast the first stone, therefore you can't have power. You must treat everyone fairly even of they do not reciprocate, therefore you can't have power. 

There are too many examples of this and it is too obvious so I cannot imagine that the people pushing such narratives do so in good faith. 4he purpose must be to ensure that conservatives always lose. Because if there was a 'right wing' movement that was actually willing and able to acquire power...we know what would happen next. Hitler. 

He sounds like a WILLFULLY IGNORANT CUCKSERVATIVE who isn't surrounded on 3 or 4 sides... by Americanized Africans.

FOS » 30 Jul 2022, 7:16 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2022, 7:16 pm

Earlier I was talking to some southern boomer...who clearly was some sort of conservative. Naturally the general topic of politics came up and he seemed to hold the political belief that 'everyone should mind their own business'.

I have heard this from conservative radio talking heads before. It is clearly some sort of conservative shibboleth. The democrats are bad cause they wanna tell people what to do etc. 

and I responded that you kinda have to mind other people's business because humans naturally form into tribes and it is the entire tribe that wins or loses. I suppose I could have simply mentioned that you have to do something about a murderer or something...but I was curious how he would respond to my comment about tribes. 

and predictably...he insisted that he is not a member of any group. This is another radio conservative talking point I have heard. It is the 'demonrats' who divide everyone by race but the ideologically pure Republicans are all mere individuals. 

I asked him if he considered himself a member of the United States 'group'...and he admitted he was. And I pointed out that if the usa was conquered by Mexico, it would have some impact on his life. 

At this point he got rather emotional and accused me of being a contrarian and he insisted we change the subject. He didn't have any sort of response to these glaringly obvious facts...but he clearly was unable to change his mind and it just upset him that I was pointing out obvious things. Basically, his brain was clearly hacked by the repetition of conservative pundit narratives.

and I cannot help but have a conspiratorial attitude to this...because it seems very clear that the mainstream conservative talking points seem almost deliberately designed to preclude conservatives from acquiring any sort of power. You cannot tell anyone else what to do, therefore you can't have power. You cannot act with any collective effort, therefore you can't have power. Jesus loves everyone and would never cast the first stone, therefore you can't have power. You must treat everyone fairly even of they do not reciprocate, therefore you can't have power. 

There are too many examples of this and it is too obvious so I cannot imagine that the people pushing such narratives do so in good faith. 4he purpose must be to ensure that conservatives always lose. Because if there was a 'right wing' movement that was actually willing and able to acquire power...we know what would happen next. Hitler.

extreme individualism became such a huge part of American culture because cooperation was no longer needed after the 1960s.  If there had a been a total disdain for collectivism and cooperation from the start, the country would not have been built.

Individualism could only be upheld as the ultimate virtue AFTER the construction of railways, power grids, sewer systems, refineries, steel mills, the interstate highway system etc.  because those endeavors required collective cooperation.

look at how American cities have fallen into urban ruin as individual competition replaced collective cooperation.  American manufacturing sector being outsourced also played a role of course.

The Chinese embrace collective effort and cooperation, and they are going to become the new superpower by 2050.
 
 

SJConspirator » 31 Jul 2022, 12:00 am » wrote: ↑

31 Jul 2022, 12:00 am

extreme individualism became such a huge part of American culture because cooperation was no longer needed after the 1960s.  If there had a been a total disdain for collectivism and cooperation from the start, the country would not have been built.

Individualism could only be upheld as the ultimate virtue AFTER the construction of railways, power grids, sewer systems, refineries, steel mills, the interstate highway system etc.  because those endeavors required collective cooperation.

look at how American cities have fallen into urban ruin as individual competition replaced collective cooperation.  American manufacturing sector being outsourced also played a role of course.

The Chinese embrace collective effort and cooperation, and they are going to become the new superpower by 2050.

Arguably China already is. They just totally ignored our plea to stop buying stuff from Russia. And what are we gonna do about it?
 

FOS » 31 Jul 2022, 12:02 am » wrote: ↑

31 Jul 2022, 12:02 am

Arguably China already is. They just totally ignored our plea to stop buying stuff from Russia. And what are we gonna do about it?

I mean the global reserve currency will not be the dollar in 2050.  The Chinese yen will be the petrodollar

SJConspirator » 31 Jul 2022, 12:05 am » wrote: ↑

31 Jul 2022, 12:05 am

I mean the global reserve currency will not be the dollar in 2050.  The Chinese yen will be the petrodollar

Already mumering in that direction

FOS » 31 Jul 2022, 12:08 am » wrote: ↑

31 Jul 2022, 12:08 am

Already mumering in that direction

https://odi.org/en/about/our-work/globa ... nitiative/

FOS » 30 Jul 2022, 7:16 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2022, 7:16 pm

Earlier I was talking to some southern boomer...who clearly was some sort of conservative. Naturally the general topic of politics came up and he seemed to hold the political belief that 'everyone should mind their own business'.

I have heard this from conservative radio talking heads before. It is clearly some sort of conservative shibboleth. The democrats are bad cause they wanna tell people what to do etc. 

and I responded that you kinda have to mind other people's business because humans naturally form into tribes and it is the entire tribe that wins or loses. I suppose I could have simply mentioned that you have to do something about a murderer or something...but I was curious how he would respond to my comment about tribes. 

and predictably...he insisted that he is not a member of any group. This is another radio conservative talking point I have heard. It is the 'demonrats' who divide everyone by race but the ideologically pure Republicans are all mere individuals. 

I asked him if he considered himself a member of the United States 'group'...and he admitted he was. And I pointed out that if the usa was conquered by Mexico, it would have some impact on his life. 

At this point he got rather emotional and accused me of being a contrarian and he insisted we change the subject. He didn't have any sort of response to these glaringly obvious facts...but he clearly was unable to change his mind and it just upset him that I was pointing out obvious things. Basically, his brain was clearly hacked by the repetition of conservative pundit narratives.

and I cannot help but have a conspiratorial attitude to this...because it seems very clear that the mainstream conservative talking points seem almost deliberately designed to preclude conservatives from acquiring any sort of power. You cannot tell anyone else what to do, therefore you can't have power. You cannot act with any collective effort, therefore you can't have power. Jesus loves everyone and would never cast the first stone, therefore you can't have power. You must treat everyone fairly even of they do not reciprocate, therefore you can't have power. 

There are too many examples of this and it is too obvious so I cannot imagine that the people pushing such narratives do so in good faith. 4he purpose must be to ensure that conservatives always lose. Because if there was a 'right wing' movement that was actually willing and able to acquire power...we know what would happen next. Hitler.

So we get it. You're not just a socialist, and not just a racist, you are a NAZI. 
You swear off all the people who aren't white, and certainly the Jewish tribes, and of course you believe in socialism, but not just any socialism,
only a socialism that is of this purest form, which you surmise is the NAZI form. 

You dislike crazed nutjob politico's such as  Marjorie Taylor Green or Louie Gomert, they are just crazies as far as you are concerned.
You dislike conservative propaganda, such as the now deceased Rush Limbaugh or the fancy Fox sweetie Tucker Carlson because you think they are dumbassholes.
You say, well perhaps the idea of manmade climate change holds some merit, and you are even somewhat interested in true scientific method,  but first, and this is absolutely a mandate, you have to be a NAZI first and foremost.

And so, If I get this right, you are a critical thinker, even a believer in science, and true history - as far as you see it, but everything else as far as you are concerned starts with
being a NAZI.

Would that be correct?

 
 

FOS » 30 Jul 2022, 7:16 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2022, 7:16 pm

Earlier I was talking to some southern boomer...who clearly was some sort of conservative. Naturally the general topic of politics came up and he seemed to hold the political belief that 'everyone should mind their own business'.

I have heard this from conservative radio talking heads before. It is clearly some sort of conservative shibboleth. The democrats are bad cause they wanna tell people what to do etc. 

and I responded that you kinda have to mind other people's business because humans naturally form into tribes and it is the entire tribe that wins or loses. I suppose I could have simply mentioned that you have to do something about a murderer or something...but I was curious how he would respond to my comment about tribes. 

and predictably...he insisted that he is not a member of any group. This is another radio conservative talking point I have heard. It is the 'demonrats' who divide everyone by race but the ideologically pure Republicans are all mere individuals. 

I asked him if he considered himself a member of the United States 'group'...and he admitted he was. And I pointed out that if the usa was conquered by Mexico, it would have some impact on his life. 

At this point he got rather emotional and accused me of being a contrarian and he insisted we change the subject. He didn't have any sort of response to these glaringly obvious facts...but he clearly was unable to change his mind and it just upset him that I was pointing out obvious things. Basically, his brain was clearly hacked by the repetition of conservative pundit narratives.

and I cannot help but have a conspiratorial attitude to this...because it seems very clear that the mainstream conservative talking points seem almost deliberately designed to preclude conservatives from acquiring any sort of power. You cannot tell anyone else what to do, therefore you can't have power. You cannot act with any collective effort, therefore you can't have power. Jesus loves everyone and would never cast the first stone, therefore you can't have power. You must treat everyone fairly even of they do not reciprocate, therefore you can't have power. 

There are too many examples of this and it is too obvious so I cannot imagine that the people pushing such narratives do so in good faith. 4he purpose must be to ensure that conservatives always lose. Because if there was a 'right wing' movement that was actually willing and able to acquire power...we know what would happen next. Hitler.

Which gives us a clue who controls right wing media.

SJConspirator » 31 Jul 2022, 12:10 am » wrote: ↑

31 Jul 2022, 12:10 am

https://odi.org/en/about/our-work/globa ... nitiative/

That's propaganda to make you think what is before your eyes is 30 years removed.

SJConspirator » 31 Jul 2022, 12:13 am » wrote: ↑

31 Jul 2022, 12:13 am

You should put that in the memes thread.

Cannonpointer » 31 Jul 2022, 1:29 am » wrote: ↑

31 Jul 2022, 1:29 am

Which gives us a clue who controls right wing media.

 
...is that all you have for a clue???     

...btw, 'the media' isn't able to tell all of us WHAT TO THINK, but they are FANTASTICALLY SUCCESSFUL in telling you republicrats [and monetary ignoramuses] WHAT TO THINK ABOUT:... [trannies, puppet/puppetry, racial/class animosity pot-stirring etc. f@ckery di$traction$ ad nau$ean 24/7/365].... 

...this guy KNOWS how all 'media' and everything el$e is controlled...get a clue:..   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96c2wXcNA7A&t=3320s




 

FOS » 30 Jul 2022, 7:16 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2022, 7:16 pm

Earlier I was talking to some southern boomer...who clearly was some sort of conservative. Naturally the general topic of politics came up and he seemed to hold the political belief that 'everyone should mind their own business'.

I have heard this from conservative radio talking heads before. It is clearly some sort of conservative shibboleth. The democrats are bad cause they wanna tell people what to do etc. 

and I responded that you kinda have to mind other people's business because humans naturally form into tribes and it is the entire tribe that wins or loses. I suppose I could have simply mentioned that you have to do something about a murderer or something...but I was curious how he would respond to my comment about tribes. 

and predictably...he insisted that he is not a member of any group. This is another radio conservative talking point I have heard. It is the 'demonrats' who divide everyone by race but the ideologically pure Republicans are all mere individuals. 

I asked him if he considered himself a member of the United States 'group'...and he admitted he was. And I pointed out that if the usa was conquered by Mexico, it would have some impact on his life. 

At this point he got rather emotional and accused me of being a contrarian and he insisted we change the subject. He didn't have any sort of response to these glaringly obvious facts...but he clearly was unable to change his mind and it just upset him that I was pointing out obvious things. Basically, his brain was clearly hacked by the repetition of conservative pundit narratives.

and I cannot help but have a conspiratorial attitude to this...because it seems very clear that the mainstream conservative talking points seem almost deliberately designed to preclude conservatives from acquiring any sort of power. You cannot tell anyone else what to do, therefore you can't have power. You cannot act with any collective effort, therefore you can't have power. Jesus loves everyone and would never cast the first stone, therefore you can't have power. You must treat everyone fairly even of they do not reciprocate, therefore you can't have power. 

There are too many examples of this and it is too obvious so I cannot imagine that the people pushing such narratives do so in good faith. 4he purpose must be to ensure that conservatives always lose. Because if there was a 'right wing' movement that was actually willing and able to acquire power...we know what would happen next. Hitler. 

All good faiths leave mayhem, madness, misery as their historical accomplishments forward from here. What does it take to reach intellectual power, wealth, fame in reality since vocabulary really doesn't change the genetics to evolving forward now, just the behavior of reproductions actively evolving forward now.

Power Of Suggestion corrupts everyone as used in every reality sustaining humanity's greater good concepts life is more than limited to mutually evolving here now.

peepee » 31 Jul 2022, 8:19 am » wrote: ↑

31 Jul 2022, 8:19 am

 
...is that all you have for a clue???     

...btw, 'the media' isn't able to tell all of us WHAT TO THINK, 

 

Right, right - you dick suckers are immune.

To everything but a face full of bll sac. 

peepee » 31 Jul 2022, 8:19 am » wrote: ↑

31 Jul 2022, 8:19 am

...this guy KNOWS how all 'media' and everything el$e is controlled...get a clue:..    

That's a bit long to find out who did it, can't you just tell us.... is it the joos?



 

 


 

OlderGuy » 31 Jul 2022, 1:21 am » wrote: ↑

31 Jul 2022, 1:21 am

So we get it. You're not just a socialist, and not just a racist, you are a NAZI. 
You swear off all the people who aren't white, and certainly the Jewish tribes, and of course you believe in socialism, but not just any socialism,
only a socialism that is of this purest form, which you surmise is the NAZI form. 

You dislike crazed nutjob politico's such as  Marjorie Taylor Green or Louie Gomert, they are just crazies as far as you are concerned.
You dislike conservative propaganda, such as the now deceased Rush Limbaugh or the fancy Fox sweetie Tucker Carlson because you think they are dumbassholes.
You say, well perhaps the idea of manmade climate change holds some merit, and you are even somewhat interested in true scientific method,  but first, and this is absolutely a mandate, you have to be a NAZI first and foremost.

And so, If I get this right, you are a critical thinker, even a believer in science, and true history - as far as you see it, but everything else as far as you are concerned starts with
being a NAZI.

Would that be correct?

Well let's see...what do you mean by 'swear off'? I do believe in racial self determination. I do not think any race should be ruled by a foreign race. 

Sure I would say that national socialism is a pure form of socialism because it is the only kind that is internally consistent and consistent with biological science. 

Sure I respect science...actual science. I don't have much respect for climate change hysteria...

And no...I don't start out as being a nazi. Lol. Nobody does. It took time to realize the vision of the nsdap is what most closely describes my own world view as well. I did not even know that until I studied what they actually believe.

Cannonpointer » 31 Jul 2022, 10:05 am » wrote: ↑

31 Jul 2022, 10:05 am

Right, right - you dick suckers are immune.

To everything but a face full of bll sac.

"btw, 'the media' isn't able to tell all of us WHAT TO THINK, but they are FANTASTICALLY SUCCESSFUL in telling you republicrats [and monetary ignoramuses] WHAT TO THINK ABOUT:... [trannies, puppet/puppetry, racial/class animosity pot-stirring etc. f@ckery di$traction$ ad nau$ean 24/7/365]" 

[a corollary to the above is that when you closet puppet trump cacksuckers [and monetary ignoramuses] are constantly thinking about/talking about/con$umed with the absolute trifling $hit 'they' have you thinking/talking about, you never get around to thinking about/talking about the mo$t important thing$.... btw, what word(s) describe a person who never/VERY RARELY thinks about/talks about the mo$t important thing$?....]    

peepee » 31 Jul 2022, 11:27 am » wrote: ↑

31 Jul 2022, 11:27 am

"btw, 'the media' isn't able to tell all of us WHAT TO THINK, but they are FANTASTICALLY SUCCESSFUL in telling you republicrats [and monetary ignoramuses] WHAT TO THINK ABOUT:... [trannies, puppet/puppetry, racial/class animosity pot-stirring etc. f@ckery di$traction$ ad nau$ean 24/7/365]" 

[a corollary to the above is that when you closet puppet trump cacksuckers [and monetary ignoramuses] are constantly thinking about/talking about/con$umed with the absolute trifling $hit 'they' have you thinking/talking about, you never get around to thinking about/talking about the mo$t important thing$.... btw, what word(s) describe a person who never/VERY RARELY thinks about/talks about the mo$t important thing$?....] 

when have you talked about anything important?

FOS » 31 Jul 2022, 11:42 am » wrote: ↑

31 Jul 2022, 11:42 am

when have you talked about anything important?

 

...are you a f@cking federal agent provocateur? ...or just a miserable stooooooooooooooooopid f@ck who thinks trannies, puppets and race-baiting are more important than 'the money'... f@cking idjit either way...