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Cedar » 02 Aug 2022, 7:56 am » wrote: ↑

02 Aug 2022, 7:56 am

If I were honest about it I'd probably get a visit from the FBI. :ninja:  
 

I am honest about it and I am monitored all the time. sure it is done by software, but it is still being monitored like everyone else using technology to communicate person to person electronically, wirelessly, via the internet cloud I will use a 52 year old sci-fi fiction to fruition movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyOEwiQhzMI

sootedupCyndi » 02 Aug 2022, 12:58 am » wrote: ↑

02 Aug 2022, 12:58 am

For woman of History. i like the evil ones.
Cleopatra
Helen of troy
Delilah
Eve
ha!

Cleopatria was not evil. She was simply unsuccessful at keeping Egypt independent from Rome.
She was rather admirable, as I understand that she was the first of a dozen Ptolomies that actually learned the language of the Egyptian people.
Helen of Troy was not evil, either.
She was either kidnapped against her will, fell in love and ran off with her lover, or figured that she would be better off in Troy than Sparta.  Sparta was NOT a female-friendly place.

Eve was born ignorant and was not warned against talking snakes. 
Delilah was a Philistine patriot.

The FBI does not arrest anyone for claiming to like Che Guevara.
El Che was a great speaker, very smart, and super photogenic.
He was intolerant of gays, and unsuccessful in his plans for world revolution.

Henry Ford was also smart, but antisemitic and less than successful in his later years, after the Model T era.
He was stubborn and refused to listen to his son Edsel (who had really nothing to do with the car).
There have been fewer really worse failures than Fordlandia, where Henry Ford decided to grow his own rubber in Brazil.
He also wanted to teach Protestant morality to Brazilians. Bolsonaro he was not.
Read "Fordlandia", sometime.

Xavier_Onassis » 02 Aug 2022, 8:35 am » wrote: ↑

02 Aug 2022, 8:35 am

Cleopatria was not evil. She was simply unsuccessful at keeping Egypt independent from Rome.
She was rather admirable, as I understand that she was the first of a dozen Ptolomies that actually learned the language of the Egyptian people.
Helen of Troy was not evil, either.
She was either kidnapped against her will, fell in love and ran off with her lover, or figured that she would be better off in Troy than Sparta.  Sparta was NOT a female-friendly place.

Eve was born ignorant and was not warned against talking snakes. 
Delilah was a Philistine patriot.

it isn't evil to deny how actual life operates in real time, but evil arrives being honest about it in real time as everyone else makes reality happen each generation forward now where rule of law commands people to honor vernacular tribalism or else. It is the only way to manage everyone equally ignoring life doesn't exceed being alive now.

SJConspirator » 01 Aug 2022, 1:52 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2022, 1:52 pm

My top five 

Henry George
Nikola Tesla
Nicolai Bukharin
Henry Ford
Che Guevara

Leonardo da Vinci
Einstein
Julius Caesar
Erich von Däniken
and General Custer of course...

 



 
 

Warcok » 01 Aug 2022, 4:55 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2022, 4:55 pm

Donald Trump
Napoleon Bonaparte
Rambo
Christopher Columbus
Jesus
Conan the Barbarian
George Washington

Rambo and Conan are FICTIONAL.
There is a pretty good chance that Jesus is also fictional.

Xavier_Onassis » 02 Aug 2022, 8:35 am » wrote: ↑

02 Aug 2022, 8:35 am

Cleopatria was not evil. She was simply unsuccessful at keeping Egypt independent from Rome.
She was rather admirable, as I understand that she was the first of a dozen Ptolomies that actually learned the language of the Egyptian people.
Helen of Troy was not evil, either.
She was either kidnapped against her will, fell in love and ran off with her lover, or figured that she would be better off in Troy than Sparta.  Sparta was NOT a female-friendly place.

Eve was born ignorant and was not warned against talking snakes. 
Delilah was a Philistine patriot.

What is this crap? For a retard you are suddenly showing a surprising knowledge of history

Xavier_Onassis » 02 Aug 2022, 6:19 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Aug 2022, 6:19 pm

Rambo and Conan are FICTIONAL.
There is a pretty good chance that Jesus is also fictional.

Wrong. Conan was a Welsh king who conquered north west France, now called Brittany. The comic book character of course wasn't true to life but it was based on a real person. 

Xavier_Onassis » 02 Aug 2022, 8:43 am » wrote: ↑

02 Aug 2022, 8:43 am

The FBI does not arrest anyone for claiming to like Che Guevara.
El Che was a great speaker, very smart, and super photogenic.
He was intolerant of gays, and unsuccessful in his plans for world revolution.

Henry Ford was also smart, but antisemitic and less than successful in his later years, after the Model T era.
He was stubborn and refused to listen to his son Edsel (who had really nothing to do with the car).
There have been fewer really worse failures than Fordlandia, where Henry Ford decided to grow his own rubber in Brazil.
He also wanted to teach Protestant morality to Brazilians. Bolsonaro he was not.
Read "Fordlandia", sometime.

Che did not like Africans either.

why do you care if Ford was anti Semitic? is that supposed to be a dinh on his character? FYI he wasn't born that way...he became that way as a result of his anti war beliefs...and learning that jews were provoking war

Shakespeare
Thomas Jefferson
Winston Churchill
George Lucas
Samantha Power (I know that's an odd one)

Monderegal » 02 Aug 2022, 6:30 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Aug 2022, 6:30 pm

Shakespeare
Thomas Jefferson
Winston Churchill
George Lucas
Samantha Power (I know that's an odd one)

are you aware that 3 of your picks are white supremacists?

FOS » 02 Aug 2022, 6:32 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Aug 2022, 6:32 pm

are you aware that 3 of your picks are white supremacists?

One of them killed a lot of Nazis. 

Monderegal » 02 Aug 2022, 6:33 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Aug 2022, 6:33 pm

One of them killed a lot of Nazis.

Not cause he disagreed with them lol

FOS » 02 Aug 2022, 6:34 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Aug 2022, 6:34 pm

Not cause he disagreed with them lol

I should have added Patton. America and all.

Monderegal » 02 Aug 2022, 6:35 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Aug 2022, 6:35 pm

I should have added Patton. America and all.

Patton went explicitly pro nazi right before being assassinated 

FOS » 02 Aug 2022, 6:35 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Aug 2022, 6:35 pm

Patton went explicitly pro nazi right before being assassinated

Didn't know that. I will refer you to my choice of Winston Churchill. Not a big fan of Nazis.

Monderegal » 02 Aug 2022, 6:38 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Aug 2022, 6:38 pm

Didn't know that. I will refer you to my choice of Winston Churchill. Not a big fan of Nazis.

winston Churchill did not like the nazis simply because they were german and he didn't want competition for the English empire.. he later supported white only immigration to England, and he never really had any sort of rebuke for the nazi ideology. He just didn't like germans.
 
 

Monderegal » 02 Aug 2022, 6:38 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Aug 2022, 6:38 pm

Didn't know that. I will refer you to my choice of Winston Churchill. Not a big fan of Nazis.

dude you liking Churchill cause he killed a bunch of germans is no different from liking Hitler cause he killed a bunch of jews lol. As a man Churchill was pretty disgusting. Always drunk and gambling...had to be financed by Jewish zionists.

FOS » 02 Aug 2022, 6:40 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Aug 2022, 6:40 pm

winston Churchill did not like the nazis simply because they were german and he didn't want competition for the English empire.. he later supported white only immigration to England, and he never really had any sort of rebuke for the nazi ideology. He just didn't like germans.

Winston Churchill probably didn't hold the deep seething Eugenics beliefs that propagated Nazi Germany. I'm sure he was a product of his time, but he won the war in Europe. I'm not going to delve into the politics of Hitler here, but I want to note that I strongly hold notions about the moral bankruptcy of Hitler's regime. Not without blemish perhaps, but you can say that about any historic figure. Hitler to me holds extremely deep blemishes for both his beliefs and acts as the chancellor of Germany. 

Monderegal » 02 Aug 2022, 6:48 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Aug 2022, 6:48 pm

Winston Churchill probably didn't hold the deep seething Eugenics beliefs that propagated Nazi Germany. I'm sure he was a product of his time, but he won the war in Europe. I'm not going to delve into the politics of Hitler here, but I want to note that I strongly hold notions about the moral bankruptcy of Hitler's regime. Not without blemish perhaps, but you can say that about any historic figure. Hitler to me holds extremely deep blemishes for both his beliefs and acts as the chancellor of Germany.

This is the opposite of the truth. Churchill was more interested in eugenics than the nazis were. So was the usa. Allied propaganda against Hitler is all projection. In fact, the nazis derided the usa for their treatment of ******. And what eugenics thr nazis did participate in, they took it from the usa...but they moderated it