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IkeBana » 11 Aug 2022, 7:54 am » wrote: ↑

11 Aug 2022, 7:54 am

Wrong. Impeached over attempted coercion of the chief executive of another sovereign nation. Trump attempted to leverage Zelensky to start a phony investigation in return for continued aid.

Neo reaches in and pulls the crystal ball out of his mother's *** and tells us what might have been.

Coercion to do what? To start an investigation of the Biden's influence peddling in his nation. It's already known the Biden's had the prosecutor fired that was investigating Burisma, the corrupt Ukrainian oil company Hunter Biden inexplicably found himself on the board of. The request wasn't only legal it was in the national **** interest. 
 
He didn't ask for pre-packaged dirt on the Bidens like the DNC paid Russia for, Trump asked for an investigation with no predetermined outcome. Asking for an investigation should never be considered a criminal act. Hell, Zelensky could have cleared the Bidens but we all know the reason it was refused. The Bidens are guilty of influence peddling in Ukraine. 

Huey » 11 Aug 2022, 8:14 am » wrote: ↑

11 Aug 2022, 8:14 am

This is about your words.  We know these are your words in reference to taking the 5th:

It's what the guilty do.

Question is do you stand by your words.

Tiny,

It IS what guilty people do.


Are you denying that?


 

freeman » 11 Aug 2022, 7:53 am » wrote: ↑

11 Aug 2022, 7:53 am

Am I supposed to pretend I haven't been hearing that over and over, from you lefty commie scumbags, for over 5 years now?
You've been brainwashed by commie liars regarding Trump for over 5 years now and you still don't have the mental capacity to realize it.

So what did the warrant detail they were looking for?

Far as we have been told so far, they were looking for documents that support Trump's violation of the Presidential Records Act.  I don't think there's any question at this point that Trump has been in possession of documents that as a former disgraced president belong to us, not to him.  On January 20th, all documents related to Trump's time as president became the property of the Presidential Records Archivist and the American people.

If any of such documents happen to be classified, at any level (denial of which we know is a lie), a whole other separate set of consequences exists.
 
The rest of this schmuck's post is babbling alt-right propaganda.

Neo » 11 Aug 2022, 8:16 am » wrote: ↑

11 Aug 2022, 8:16 am

Coercion to do what? To start an investigation of the Biden's influence peddling in his nation. It's already known the Biden's had the prosecutor fired that was investigating Burisma, the corrupt Ukrainian oil company Hunter Biden inexplicably found himself on the board of. The request wasn't only legal it was in the national **** interest.

**** heaped upon ****, Neo.

freeman » 11 Aug 2022, 8:13 am » wrote: ↑

11 Aug 2022, 8:13 am

You avoided the question. What did the warrant detail they were looking for?

Warrants, as a rule, don't.


Now acknowledge that you're a rube.
 

Blackvegetable » 11 Aug 2022, 8:18 am » wrote: ↑

11 Aug 2022, 8:18 am

**** heaped upon ****, Neo.

Investigation into the Biden's activities in Ukraine was in the national interest. Buying false kgb dirt on Trump to suck start an investigation was not. 
 

IkeBana » 11 Aug 2022, 8:17 am » wrote: ↑

11 Aug 2022, 8:17 am

Far as we have been told so far, they were looking for documents that support Trump's violation of the Presidential Records Act.  I don't think there's any question at this point that Trump has been in possession of documents that as a former disgraced president belong to us, not to him.  On January 20th, all documents related to Trump's time as president became the property of the Presidential Records Archivist and the American people.

If any of such documents happen to be classified, at any level (denial of which we know is a lie), a whole other separate set of consequences exists.

Are you talking about the 15 boxes of documents that were returned in February of 2022?
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=trump+returne ... =hb&ia=web
 
https://video.foxnews.com/v/6310640505112#sp=show-clips
 

Blackvegetable » 11 Aug 2022, 8:17 am » wrote: ↑

11 Aug 2022, 8:17 am

Huey » 11 Aug 2022, 8:14 am » wrote: ↑

11 Aug 2022, 8:14 am

This is about your words.  We know these are your words in reference to taking the 5th:

It's what the guilty do.

Question is do you stand by your words.

Tiny,

It IS what guilty people do.


Are you denying that?


 

 

So, using your logic the DOJ official is guilty.

Yes/no/I dunno/I have to check with my lefty influencer

Blackvegetable » 11 Aug 2022, 8:17 am » wrote: ↑

11 Aug 2022, 8:17 am

Tiny,

It IS what guilty people do.


Are you denying that?


 

What separates denying something and defying everyone saving humanities. One understands actual life biological results are limited to eternally separated by life evolving in series parallel displacement of reproductions present here now.

Some seem to have selectively short memory:

Republican Shock at the Trump FBI Raid Makes Sense If You Ignore His Entire (Fkng) Life What's truly shocking is HOW MANY TIMES HE'S ESCAPED THE LAW BEFORE.

The American right has exploded in indignation at news the Republican Party's standard-bearer, one Donald Trump, was searched by the FBI on Monday. It was a grave abuse of power, they say, a Deep State conspiracy and/or anything else that does not involve the possibility that maybe, just maybe, Donald Trump is crooked.

Never mind that none of us know the details of the search beyond some news reports that it was related to Trump's handing of classified documents. These folks are ready to put themselves out on a limb to defend their Leader. Sen. Marco Rubio, who in 2016 called Trump a "con artist" who must be prevented from taking power, compared the federal cops showing up at Trump's door to the work of authoritarian regimes in Latin America. Sen. Rand Paul has, without evidence, floated the idea the Feds may have planted evidence.

Trump released a statement Wednesday morning saying that he'd exercised his Fifth Amendment rights against self-incrimination on the advice of his lawyers; and while that does not speak to guilt or innocence, Trump himself once said that pleading the Fifth is for mobsters.

 

(continued)

Throughout the '80s, '90s and more recently, Trump has faced scores of allegations he refused to pay contractors and others whom he owed money for services provided. That is, breach of contract. A USA Today investigation identified more than 3,500 lawsuits over close to three decades, and many involved ordinary people running small businesses who allege Trump stiffed them:

He faced 24 violations of the Fair Labor Standards Act between 2005 and 2016... on just one project, at least 253 subcontractors weren’t paid in full or on time

"Perhaps the peak of Trump's career as a snake-oil salesman came with Trump University, his 2000s-era plot to separate people seeking "secrets to success in the real-estate business" from their money. Trump eventually faced three different lawsuits alleging the enterprise engaged in deceptive practices, and he settled shortly after his 2016 election victory, agreeing to pay $25 million in damages.

Then there are the numerous sexual misconduct allegations, the payoffs to mistresses that were structured illegally under campaign finance law, and the money his businesses continued to take—including from corporate and foreign interests who might have business before his administration

Actually, we've only compiled a brief survey here of his Totally Above-Board Conduct. OK, one more: A New York Times report found that Trump's massive inheritance was tied to a multigenerational tax fraud scheme.

B.See » 11 Aug 2022, 8:33 am » wrote: ↑

11 Aug 2022, 8:33 am

Some seem to have selectively short memory:

Republican Shock at the Trump FBI Raid Makes Sense If You Ignore His Entire (Fkng) Life What's truly shocking is HOW MANY TIMES HE'S ESCAPED THE LAW BEFORE.

The American right has exploded in indignation at news the Republican Party's standard-bearer, one Donald Trump, was searched by the FBI on Monday. It was a grave abuse of power, they say, a Deep State conspiracy and/or anything else that does not involve the possibility that maybe, just maybe, Donald Trump is crooked.

Never mind that none of us know the details of the search beyond some news reports that it was related to Trump's handing of classified documents. These folks are ready to put themselves out on a limb to defend their Leader. Sen. Marco Rubio, who in 2016 called Trump a "con artist" who must be prevented from taking power, compared the federal cops showing up at Trump's door to the work of authoritarian regimes in Latin America. Sen. Rand Paul has, without evidence, floated the idea the Feds may have planted evidence.

Trump released a statement Wednesday morning saying that he'd exercised his Fifth Amendment rights against self-incrimination on the advice of his lawyers; and while that does not speak to guilt or innocence, Trump himself once said that pleading the Fifth is for mobsters.

 

Others just remember the interpretation they rather believe true than how actual events took place as a whole event taken place. You cling to reasonable doubt like your social identity depends upon it.

freeman » 11 Aug 2022, 8:21 am » wrote: ↑

11 Aug 2022, 8:21 am

Are you talking about the 15 boxes of documents that were returned in February of 2022?
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=trump+returne ... =hb&ia=web
 
https://video.foxnews.com/v/6310640505112#sp=show-clips

Fifteen boxes were removed in February.  Another twelve on Tuesday.
 

IkeBana » 11 Aug 2022, 8:37 am » wrote: ↑

11 Aug 2022, 8:37 am

Fifteen boxes were removed in February.  Another twelve on Tuesday.

7 years and ya just might have him! The impotence is of galactic proportions here. I'm guessing this will fail too. 
 

roadkill » 11 Aug 2022, 5:59 am » wrote: ↑

11 Aug 2022, 5:59 am

Like Lois Lerner?

Not unless Lois has a little peckerhead.

Neo » 11 Aug 2022, 8:40 am » wrote: ↑

11 Aug 2022, 8:40 am

7 years and ya just might have him! The impotence is of galactic proportions here. I'm guessing this will fail too.

Once again, Neo extracts the crystal valley out of his momma's ***.
 

Huey » 11 Aug 2022, 8:22 am » wrote: ↑

11 Aug 2022, 8:22 am

So, using your logic the DOJ official is guilty.

Yes/no/I dunno/I have to check with my lefty influencer

Just as a matter of simple logic

"That's what the guilty do"

doesn't mean that everyone who pleads the 5th is guilty.

Acknowledge that you understand.

Your next effort to labor this matter will result in a request for a more detailed case.

You know you can't do that.
 

Neo » 11 Aug 2022, 8:20 am » wrote: ↑

11 Aug 2022, 8:20 am

Investigation into the Biden's activities in Ukraine was in the national interest.

Wrong.  Nothing Trump does is in anybody's interest but Trump's.
 

omh » 11 Aug 2022, 8:25 am » wrote: ↑

11 Aug 2022, 8:25 am

Blackvegetable » 11 Aug 2022, 8:17 am » wrote: ↑

11 Aug 2022, 8:17 am

Tiny,

It IS what guilty people do.


Are you denying that?


 

 

What separates denying something and defying everyone saving humanities. One understands actual life biological results are limited to eternally separated by life evolving in series parallel displacement of reproductions present here now.

 

BWAAAHAHAH!  Hey BV, now aren't you glad you asked?
 

Blackvegetable » 11 Aug 2022, 8:45 am » wrote: ↑

11 Aug 2022, 8:45 am

Huey » 11 Aug 2022, 8:22 am » wrote: ↑

11 Aug 2022, 8:22 am

So, using your logic the DOJ official is guilty.

Yes/no/I dunno/I have to check with my lefty influencer

Just as a matter of simple logic

"That's what the guilty do"

doesn't mean that everyone who pleads the 5th is guilty.

Acknowledge that you understand.

Your next effort to labor this matter will result in a request for a more detailed case.

You know you can't do that.
 

 

Nice spin.  I am glad you checked with your influencer.  Took you long enough to come up with that excuse.  

So now you are saying Trump may not be guilty.  When you allow your influencers to cloud your judgement with partisan **** this is the outcome.