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NEILCAR » 06 Sep 2022, 10:23 am » wrote: ↑

06 Sep 2022, 10:23 am

The people who pay for the education get to tell them what they can teach ... good, bad, or indifferent ... 
you nor I may NOT like that fact ... but at some point in time, you need to accept that 

The way we elect Presidents was a compromise between big and small states.  Since the big states will never have a 75% vote to change the Constitution (in this regard) you need to learn how to elect a President within the U.S. 

like most dem you would rather break the law --- rather than follow the rules.

That last line was a deliberate mischaracterization, an ASSumption, and a personal ATTACK.

Tell me, what laws have I advocated for "breaking"?  TRUTH IS, MAGA'S are the ones BREAKING RULES and CHANGING LAWS to have it THEIR way. 

Democrats haven't lied about the election, engaged in an insurrection to overthrow a legitimate election, create FAKE ELECTORS, and phony documents, and are defending a CRIMINAL who STOLE classified documents.

Sounds to ME like the person who claims to deplore unjustified police killings (but has NEVER offered commentary condemning it in ANY of my threads on the subject) is trying to justify right winged efforts to pas vague laws that in effect attempt to demonize, demoralize, disenfranchise, and "DISAPPEAR" minority and gay KIDS.

Btw, I know how we elect a President within the U.S. champ. Because WE ELECTED ONE IN 2020, via BOTH THE POPULAR AND ELECTORAL VOTE, just to make sure Trump's FASCISTS couldn't pull another FAST one.

 

MAGA'S WAR ON KNOWLEDGE:

Republicans think keeping kids as ignorant as possible is the key to academic excellence

Ron DeSantis Is Mounting An Ideological Revolution Inside Florida School Boards

Florida parents outraged after teacher tells kids that saying Trump lost the election is an example of media bias

Northwood Temple Academy in Fayetteville, North Carolina, Baptizes 100 Kids Without Parents’ Permission

GOP Official Tells Tennessee Colleges Not To Say Title IX Protects LGBTQ People

Republican plans to block student loan relief would keep millions of Americans in debt | The Independent

the resistance:

Royally pissing MAGAS off': A Florida teacher's 'banned book drive' becomes nonprofit after raising thousands in donations

Romance Writer Nora Roberts Supports Library Defunded by Wannabe Book Burners.

 

Dem lies
... Dem accused Trump of colluding with the Russians ..(dem fake news) ... but we found out hilary actually colluded with the Russians thru the Steele Dossier and hilary and the dem party had to pay a fine because of that fact.
... Dem accuse Trump of obstruction ... (dem fake news) never mine he didn't collude so there was nothing to obstruct.
... Dem drag Kavanaugh and his family thru the mud (dem fake news) to this day no formal complaint of sexual harassment has been against Kavanaugh at the Federal, State, or local level (something brandon can't say)
... Dem say hunter's laptop was Russia disinformation (dem fake news) dem intentionally suppressed the story using the FBI.
... Dem used the FBI to get illegal FISA Warrants ...
...Dems used the FBI as a spy for hilary in the Russian Bank probe.  see Durham original investigation.
,,, Dems are allowing drugs to cross the southern border killing US Citizens and do nothing about it.
... Dems do not enforce the laws, Chicago has the toughest gun laws - no one is enforcing not prosecuting them, Dem prosecutors are releasing known criminals so that they can do another crime, Dems did nothing as Seatle and Portland burned, raped & pillaged, hell the dem vice president had a fund for bail to get the rioters out so that they could do it again.
... Dem leadership in cities, counties, and states actually defunded the police ... and not one dem spoke against it. 

Tell me again how you are not afraid of Trump ... Trump hasn't been President for around 17 months, and you sent the FBI to his home to spy on him. lol Basically the dems have lied about Trump for over 7 years and the only result is he has been found innocent ... I think that trend will continue.

Doesn't sound like the dem party is the party of law and order. to me... 

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NEILCAR » 07 Sep 2022, 6:46 am » wrote: ↑

07 Sep 2022, 6:46 am

Dem lies
... Dem accused Trump of colluding with the Russians ..(dem fake news) ... but we found out hilary actually colluded with the Russians thru the Steele Dossier and hilary and the dem party had to pay a fine because of that fact.
... Dem accuse Trump of obstruction ... (dem fake news) never ....Doesn't sound like the dem party is the party of law and order. to me... 

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(the above quote edited for character limits)

What I'm wondering is how YOU get to post so much and I'M limited to 2000 characters?? I had to cut YOUR quote just to write one paragraph.

But to address your comments above - MAGA lies. Trump lied. Trump sided with a foreign adversary. Trump attempted extortion on a foreign government. Trump endorsed and encouraged terrorists. Trump lost. Trump incited the INSURRECTION. Trump STOLE top secret documents including nuclear documents.

TRUMP NEEDS TO BE LOCKED THE **** UP.  End of story.
 
 

B.See » 08 Sep 2022, 12:09 am » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2022, 12:09 am

(the above quote edited for character limits)

What I'm wondering is how YOU get to post so much and I'M limited to 2000 characters?? I had to cut YOUR quote just to write one paragraph.

But to address your comments above - MAGA lies. Trump lied. Trump sided with a foreign adversary. Trump attempted extortion on a foreign government. Trump endorsed and encouraged terrorists. Trump lost. Trump incited the INSURRECTION. Trump STOLE top secret documents including nuclear documents.

TRUMP NEEDS TO BE LOCKED THE **** UP.  End of story.

You remind me of 1/6 Committee trying to prove 7 points … none of which violates any civil law … using fake rules of evidence procedures. Which in the end just tells a fiction story.  
 

...right.

Moving right along, the latest in the fascist rights assault upon EDUCATION AND DIVERSITY:

Upset by New York Times exposé on Hasidic schools? That's what GOP wants for all American kids

The GOP endgame: Tax-funded schools that teach religion and propaganda, but not literacy, math or history | Salon.com

Trans Eighth Grader Was 'Shaking and Distressed' As Texas Agency Pulled Him Out of Class for Investigation

Miami-Dade County Public School Board Axes LGBTQ Month at Fiery, Proud Boy-Filled Meeting
 

This Is The Education Future Republicans Want. -  "40 Years of Solid Poo"

excerpt:

I've been following the rightwing war on public schools since I was getting my own bachelor's degree in English Ed during the Reagan years, back when I still had a hairline and the chosen enemy of Good Christian Patriots was "secular humanism," and while they still represent only a small segment of the overall population, they seem closer than ever to their goal of eliminating "government schools," or at least diverting enough taxpayer money away from public schools that they can sustain an alternate reality education system that's more to their liking — on the public dime.

 

Publicly funded NC charter school that forbids girls from wearing pants or shorts because 'they are fragile vessels' claims entire charter school movement endangered by a court ruling that found its arcane dress code to be unconstitutional.

Fascist Proud Boys Intimidated a School Board Meeting Over a 4 Inch Rainbow Pride Flag

AND: Surviving the Right-Wing Assault on Education – njcssjournal

EXCERPT:

Educators have always been vulnerable to the threat of white nationalism, with their main duty being the enhancement and diffusion of knowledge, a great, if not the greatest, weapon of all. Just look at how fearful the idea of teaching formerly enslaved people to read made white supremacists during Reconstruction.

Now, 150 years later, white supremacism has evolved, not only as an intrusion to the way teachers relay facts or clarify concepts or ideas, but as a threat to the very stasis of the classroom, as kids are becoming influenced by back-alley online movements that promote nationalism, anti-Semitism, and misogyny.
 
 

"I LOVE THE POORLY EDUCATED" - DONALD TRUMP

Marjorie Taylor Greene threatens to defund Education Department to stop teachers ‘brainwashing’ children

Texas Teacher Removes All YA-Rated Books From Middle School Classroom Out of Fear of Legal Repercussions

Book-b(URN)ing efforts rising at unprecedented rate, US libraries report

Analysis from Pa. teachers group shows ‘terrifying’ results from Mastriano education funding plan

Denied the right to DISCRIMINATE against an LGBTQ student group Yeshiva University puts all student clubs on hold

Right-wing smear artists baldly lie about Idaho public schools teaching ‘porn literacy’ to children


 

MAGA'S CONTINUED FASCIST WAR ON KNOWLEDGE, DIVERSITY, AND TRUTH:

Virginia "Model Policies" Require Schools to "Out" Trans Students

3rd-grade teacher shares how Tennessee 'book ban' law keeps her students from reading books in class

HYPOCRITES:

The Supreme Court ruled Coach Kennedy could pray by touchline – so why isn’t he back at school? | The Independent

REAL HISTORY? NEIN BUT - Trump wants to put “children’s book” pushing his election lies in “every school in America” | Salon.com

RESISTANCE:

Colorado Town Has A Plan To Tackle Censorship: Banning Book Bans - A “majority” of residents “packed” a board room to support the resolution that would ban book bans on Tuesday, according to The Coloradoan. | HuffPost Latest News

CHILDREN! Traumatized in what, in effect, amounted to AN ABDUCTION. Thinking they were going to a career fair, and ending up at an anti-LGBTQ HATE FEST instead. CHILDREN!!

'Day of trauma': Students told they were going to career fair taken to 'anti-LGBT church service' instead

MEANWHILE:

Conservatives Are Trying to Get This Teacher Fired Simply for Being Nonbinary | Them

GOOD NEWS:

idaho teen Shiva Rajbhandari beats out candidate endorsed by far right group for school board seat
 

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The fascist MAGA right say they just want to protect younger children from critical race theory. Just want to protect them from "groomers" they say.

So what books are being INCLUDED in their burn... pardon... "ban" list in MAGA LED STATES??

'Handmaid's Tale,' 'Girls Who Code' and Other Books Just Banned in the U.S.

Of Mice and Men, John Steinbeck - The Handmaid's Tale, Margaret Atwood
The Life of Rosa Parks, Kathleen Connors - Brave New World, Aldous Huxley
The Absolutely True Diary of a Part-Time Indian, Sherman Alexie
I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings, Maya Angelou
Narrative of the Life of Frederick Douglass, Frederick Douglass
A Raisin in the Sun, Lorraine Hansberry - Lord of the Flies, William Golding
To Kill a Mockingbird, Harper Lee - Peter Pan by James Matthew Barrie.

What Books Did the Nazis Burn First? It's Telling. | The Mary Sue

meanwhile:

Louisiana Students Were Taken to Transphobic Church Event Instead of Career Fair
 
 

MORE MAGA ASSAULTS upon libraries, education, students, and KNOWLEDGE:

Back to the Future: GOP Pledge to Abolish Education Department Returns

Libraries Across the US Are Receiving Violent Threats

2,000 public school students taken to traumatizing church event instead of promised college fair

FROM THE MOUTHS OF THE VERY YOUNG:

Thousands of students walk out of school to protest Virginia GOP governor's anti-queer agenda

Arizona students walkout in protest of new anti-LGBTQ laws

Dan Cox’s HBCU Visit Falls Flat As MAGA Republican Woos ‘Nearly Empty’ Morgan State Crowd
 

NEILCAR » 20 Aug 2022, 4:15 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Aug 2022, 4:15 pm

My position is the taxpayer and the parents should have control over what is being taught.

The parents should have a say, but not have control of what is being taught. That is what the school board is for. Things like the Bible and posters with "In God We Trust" have no place in a secular public school. None!
Parents having control of what the schools teach, lowers the level of education to the lowest common denominator. Too many parents are reality challenged, as they can only see their beliefs as valid, no matter how off the wall they are.

STATEWIDE BOOK BANS ARE COMING TO FLORIDA'S CLASSROOMS ENFORCED BY THE FAR RIGHT
Florida Republicans were asked to promise that banned books would not literally be burned.
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They voted that down
. MEANWHILE:

2 Men Targeted A School Librarian Who Spoke Out Against Censorship. They’re Not Facing Any Consequences - A judge dismissed a lawsuit from Amanda Jones, saying accusations that she supported giving kids pornography were merely opinion. | HuffPost Latest News

FROM THE MOUTHS OF THE VERY YOUNG (hope perhaps, from our youth, in spite of right winged, fascist efforts to KEEP THEM IGNORANT OF TRUTHS:

A teen student delivered a masterclass on the true history of the treasonous Confederate flag

ALSO:

School choice advocates promised students a better education. They haven't delivered.

MEANWHILE, more **** courtesy of the Q-UACK ANON right. The people who brought us "pizzagate" who called Covid a "hoax" and vaccines a "plot", who waited in Dallas for the return of JFK, and who expected cataclysmic events on Sept. 24 because a cartoon TV show told 'em so.  Also the people who deign to give US medical advice:

GOP Lawmakers Spreading False 'Furries' Claim School Kids Are Pretending to Be Animals and Demanding Litter Boxes (Again)

GOP lawmakers are spreading false ridiculous 'furries' claim - Alternet.org

GOP candidates are claiming kids are being "cats" and are using litter boxes in schools
 

Florida female student athletes are asked about their menstrual history. That’s raising red flags and concerns in a post-‘Roe’ world

the resistance:

Arizona students walk out of school in coordinated protests against latest Republican hate

GOP Candidate Slammed for His Schools' Racist and Homophobic Curriculums

Conservative group files paperwork to defund Arkansas library after it showed LGBTQ pride display 

FROM THE MOUTHS OF THE VERY YOUNG - FIGHTING BACK:

Students at more than 50 schools, universities stage reproductive justice protests - ABC News

REICH WINGED ****:

GOP candidate accused 30 schools of accommodating furries. The schools are calling her out.

'Litterboxgate': Minnesota teachers call out GOP candidate for pushing 'nonsense' conspiracy theory

 

B.See » 08 Oct 2022, 9:51 am » wrote: ↑

08 Oct 2022, 9:51 am

GOP Candidate Slammed for His Schools' Racist and Homophobic Curriculums

Conservative group files paperwork to defund Arkansas library after it showed LGBTQ pride display 

Students at more than 50 schools, universities stage reproductive justice protests - ABC News

GOP candidate accused 30 schools of accommodating furries. The schools are calling her out.

'Litterboxgate': Minnesota teachers call out GOP candidate for pushing 'nonsense' conspiracy theory
 

Republicans running on RACISM in white majority districts see gains in school board elections

The Pennsylvania ACLU filed federal complaint against school district after LGBTQ students are 'severely' harassed
 

Thanks, MAGAS:

Uncertified teacher numbers spike as schools work to stem shortages - “The shortages are getting worse and morale is continuing to fall for teachers,”

MEANWHILE their **** continues to grow in FERVOR:

Enraged conservative parents storm school board meeting over a student drawn mural they call "Satanic"

Speaker Wishes Death on LGBTQ People at Shocking School Board Meeting

Fifth grade teacher told students to call classmate an anti-gay slur - LGBTQ Nation