Is a Fetus a Person? An Anti-Abortion Strategy Says Yes.

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By Taipan
22 Aug 2022 12:56 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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GHETTOBLASTER » 22 Aug 2022, 1:22 pm » wrote: Most aborted fetus are too  inconvenient and require too much love, effort, devotion and responsibility to allow to become children.
That's a good sauce? you sure you know what you may be eating?
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22 Aug 2022 1:45 pm
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sootedupCyndi » 22 Aug 2022, 1:19 pm » wrote: Why don't people get this? 15 weeks! GOOD ENOUGH. cut off date!
Why can't people be reasonable about this issue? FFS it's all political at this point.. to fester up the lefties!
After that- Have at it... and if any woman doesn't want to... let the MAN  who got her pregnant.. take it on?
funny they never do..
I'm way to old for this now.. but I DO remember being young!

I agree 1000% !!
This is all crazy.

And here is something that might disturb you.
I think the world is tilting.............toward darkness......not Light.
With all of our technology & communications.            WTF ??
This bothers me.
But,
I have confidence that we can work this deal out with bright minds on the scene.
Don't worry.
Me, Elon Musk, & Jesus will invent...................."World Peace".              
  :rofl:   :rofl:  

"Do not let your heart be troubled".
                                                                  Sean Hannity.

Here is what I am listening to right now.
Peace, Sister.              
:)  

https://youtu.be/BTHygVQ39ys
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22 Aug 2022 1:50 pm
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Zymarikaphobia » 22 Aug 2022, 1:23 pm » wrote: Looks like 21% agree with me..

In a 2022 study of 1,500 adults in Michigan, we found that 21.64% of adults do not want to have children and therefore are choosing to be childfree. While our survey wasn’t nationally representative, the 2021 Census showed that Michigan is demographically similar to the United States in terms of age, race, education and income. If the pattern we have observed in Michigan reflects national trends, it would mean 50 million to 60 million American adults are childfree.
Again....what's your standing?

If you don't give a sufficient **** for human life to perpetuate it....
 
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Taipan » 22 Aug 2022, 1:45 pm » wrote: I agree 1000% !!
This is all crazy.

And here is something that might disturb you.
I think the world is tilting.............toward darkness......not Light.
With all of our technology & communications.            WTF ??
This bothers me.
But,
I have confidence that we can work this deal out with bright minds on the scene.
Don't worry.
Me, Elon Musk, & Jesus will invent...................."World Peace".              
  Image   Image  

"Do not let your heart be troubled".
                                                                  Sean Hannity.

Here is what I am listening to right now.
Peace, Sister.              
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https://youtu.be/BTHygVQ39ys
IT IS!
All I from life is a bit of normalcy.
When men were men- and woman were woman... we are entering in a very confused time?
life is not really that complicated! :blush:  
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22 Aug 2022 1:53 pm
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Pastafarian » 22 Aug 2022, 1:03 pm » wrote:
Do you know what was wrong with that fetus? 
Was probably a ***, so the right decision was made regardless what side you're on.
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22 Aug 2022 1:59 pm
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sootedupCyndi » 22 Aug 2022, 1:51 pm » wrote: IT IS!
All I from life is a bit of normalcy.
When men were men- and woman were woman... we are entering in a very confused time?
life is not really that complicated! Image

Lady,
I want you to remember something.
The Angels in Heaven know who you are.
You will always be......welcomed into Heaven.       
And, .......so will all of your dogs.     
(All dogs go to Heaven).                                                               
:sleep:  

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Zymarikaphobia » 22 Aug 2022, 2:01 pm » wrote: Abortion = Murder is my standing
It is you that does not value human life.

Abortion in New Hampshire is legal up to the 24th week of pregnancy as of January 1, 2022

NO VALUE FOR A HUMAN LIFE LOOKS LIKE A BABY TO ME

NOD

THIS BABY IS 23 WEEKS OLD

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Do you know what it costs to keep preemies alive?
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22 Aug 2022 2:15 pm
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Zymarikaphobia » 22 Aug 2022, 2:10 pm » wrote: Oh, so it is a money issue?
 
NOD OBAMA CARE
It is to you.



 
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Taipan » 22 Aug 2022, 1:59 pm » wrote: Lady,
I want you to remember something.
The Angels in Heaven know who you are.
You will always be......welcomed into Heaven.       
And, .......so will all of your dogs.     
(All dogs go to Heaven).                                                               
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https://youtu.be/sjO6Ff3xLpU
Its kind of funny when a person is *really* confronted with death?  had a NDE...
I thought of a few men... but honestly... my dogs!!
I never had any kids... they would be thought of too...
I'm sure..  cant judge that one. :wave:  
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22 Aug 2022 3:32 pm
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sootedupCyndi » 22 Aug 2022, 3:16 pm » wrote: Its kind of funny when a person is *really* confronted with death?  had a NDE...
I thought of a few men... but honestly... my dogs!!
I never had any kids... they would be thought of too...
I'm sure..  cant judge that one. Image

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I respect you.

Here is what I am listening to right now.
(yes, I have sent it to you before)                                                         
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Zymarikaphobia » 22 Aug 2022, 11:14 am » wrote: Already in Georgia, a fetus now qualifies for tax credits and child support, and is to be included in population counts and redistricting.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/fetus-person ... 11108.html


@Blackvegetable  @Xavier_Onassis  **** YOU!   ABORTION IS MURDER! HUMAN LIFE BEGINS AT CONCEPTION!

Search "When does human life begin" and read the Princeton University link that quotes numerous embryology textbooks (which is what doctors read in med school). And the many other Google references. Human life begins at conception. This is science. This is a human rights issue.   
 According to a recent Pew survey, remarkably only 30% of Americans know the clear & scientific answer. Be smart, be educated. This is human rights.
Abortion is legal here in Illinois and will stay legal here.  We are putting together an investment group that will finance the opening of a chain of abortion providing clinics all over the state to handle procedures for women who live in backward states full of religious fanatics and have traveled to illinois for relief from the sexist pigs back home. 

We have picked a name for our chain of clinics...
NO FETUS CAN BEAT US!
BWAHAHAAAAAAHAHAHAH!
 
We thought about "You Rape 'Em, We Scrape 'Em" but we figured it might be taken as offensive.
 
 
 
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Zymarikaphobia » 22 Aug 2022, 11:35 am » wrote: “It’s a balance between the liberty interest of the mother and the life interest of the unborn child,” he said. “Show a 4D sonogram of 10 weeks along to a classroom of fourth graders and ask them what they’re seeing. They know: It’s a baby.”

CORRECT! IT IS A BABY!

I absolutely subscribe to fetal personhood - and rights. 

I remain pro-choice, for the very reason argued by the first 19 words of your post. 
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

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Pastafarian » 22 Aug 2022, 1:04 pm » wrote: That’s no reason at all, dingleberry.
In his frail cosmology, the fact that Scott Peterson was convicted of DOUBLE homicide proves everything - that a fetus is a person and that every abortion is a prosecutable murder. 

He's not a nuanced dick sucker - he's your eager deep throater. 

And given he prefers negro penis, good luck shaking the fruit cake, my n word.
 
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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Zymarikaphobia » 22 Aug 2022, 6:07 pm » wrote: Your disregard for human life is appalling.
You would have to be a human being to be offended.  You do not qualify.
 
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22 Aug 2022 6:35 pm
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IkeBana » 22 Aug 2022, 5:43 pm » wrote: Abortion is legal here in Illinois and will stay legal here.  We are putting together an investment group that will finance the opening of a chain of abortion providing clinics all over the state to handle procedures for women who live in backward states full of religious fanatics and have traveled to illinois for relief from the sexist pigs back home. 

We have picked a name for our chain of clinics...
NO FETUS CAN BEAT US!
BWAHAHAAAAAAHAHAHAH!
 
We thought about "You Rape 'Em, We Scrape 'Em" but we figured it might be taken as offensive.
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 FREE KFC PARTY BUCKET WITH EVERY 5TH ABORTION NSHEEET..!!!
 
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Cannonpointer » 22 Aug 2022, 5:48 pm » wrote: I absolutely subscribe to fetal personhood - and rights. 

I remain pro-choice, for the very reason argued by the first 19 words of your post.
Your pro-choice criteria sucks.

Medical confidentiality laws in all 50 states say an abortion is nobody's **** business besides the woman and her doctor's business.

Maybe I'm wrong about this but I would figure you for a Constitutional originalist.  The founders would be ripping out their wooden teeth over a prohibition to abortion before the quickening.  And they would be having the same reaction to the government interfering in any American's choices about what sort of substances they chose to put in their bodies.

No?
 
 
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GHETTOBLASTER » 22 Aug 2022, 6:35 pm » wrote: Image
 FREE KFC PARTY BUCKET WITH EVERY 5TH ABORTION NSHEEET..!!!
Abortion is a devastating thing for the patient.  I would approve of anything that might give these women a little comfort in such a difficult time.
 
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IkeBana » 22 Aug 2022, 6:39 pm » wrote: Your pro-choice criteria sucks.
Yours suck harder. They're really stupid.
IkeBana » 22 Aug 2022, 6:39 pm » wrote: Medical confidentiality laws in all 50 states say an abortion is nobody's **** business besides the woman and her doctor's business.
Pro-life states could simply change their laws and your position is defeated, stewp. And that is only the BEGINNING of what's wrong with your position. Mine is based on the Constitutional RIGHTS of the woman - yours, on extremely theoretical and weak rabbinical legalism and niggling.

You argue incessantly against trusting the several states with citizens' rights - and then rely on just that to justify your agenda.
IkeBana » 22 Aug 2022, 6:39 pm » wrote: Maybe I'm wrong about this but I would figure you for a Constitutional originalist.
Within limits. I don't rely on it with regard to regulating air travel or television broadcasts. Consumer protection laws were not necessary at the time the document was put together - but I am not for abandoning those. I'm not sure how the framers might have felt about speed limits, but I know I favor their enforcement.

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When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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IkeBana » 22 Aug 2022, 6:39 pm » wrote: The founders would be ripping out their wooden teeth over a prohibition to abortion before the quickening.  And they would be having the same reaction to the government interfering in any American's choices about what sort of substances they chose to put in their bodies.

No?
I don't doubt they would favor choice with regard to pregnancy.

As regards substance use, there is good evidence they'd have favored significant governmental regulation. Their inclusion of eminent domain laws demonstrates their conviction that society qua society has rights and powers above those of the individual. There is also the bit about congress having authority to "raise armies." Anyone who cares a whit for both honesty and context will admit this is a reference in the founding document to the right of society to conscript citizens and force them to fight in wars. That's a pretty extreme curtailment of liberty to serve a public purpose - every bit as extreme as prohibition, and more. 

That said, the notion that they'd have seen any case for prohibition is laughable - and is utterly contrary to the plain language of the Constitution. Regulation? Absolutely. Prohibition? Absolutely not. 
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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IkeBana » 22 Aug 2022, 7:02 pm » wrote: Abortion is a devastating thing for the patient.  I would approve of anything that might give these women a little comfort in such a difficult time.

Oh **** yeah....especially after the 2nd or 3rd  abortion...total devastation......... :rolleyes:  
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