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Vegas » 23 Aug 2022, 10:53 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Aug 2022, 10:53 pm

I don't think any humans are meant to be like ants or bees. They may have fallen into those ways, but that is contrary to our nature. We are wired to rebel when enslaved. Slavery always has rebellions.

the most healthy and happy groups of humans are ones that do function like an ant colony.  The Amish for example, are a strict religious patriarchy that works nonstop, they do chores from dawn to dusk in close cooperation.  They are very collectivist, no individualism is tolerated, each of them is a rigid conformist.  Yet they have longer, happier lives than average Americans

SJConspirator » 23 Aug 2022, 11:01 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Aug 2022, 11:01 pm

the most healthy and happy groups of humans are ones that do function like an ant colony.  The Amish for example, are a strict religious patriarchy that works nonstop, they do chores from dawn to dusk in close cooperation.  They are very collectivist, no individualism is tolerated, each of them is a rigid conformist.  Yet they have longer, happier lives than average Americans

The Amish are not great examples. They are plagued with mental illnesses like depression. I am sure some are happy, but if you watch some documentaries and research, they are not anything near happiness. Yes, they function, but happy? No. Not to mention the insurmountable sexual abuse among children in those communities. 

I see evidence that a society with law and order is happy. However, if that type of law and order is oppressive and quells individual pursuits, then how can you call it happy? Maybe it functions, but that doesn't mean it is happy. Prisons function well also. 

 
 

Vegas » 23 Aug 2022, 11:06 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Aug 2022, 11:06 pm

The Amish are not great examples. They are plagued with mental illnesses like depression. I am sure some are happy, but if you watch some documentaries and research, they are not anything near happiness. Yes, they function, but happy? No. Not to mention the insurmountable sexual abuse among children in those communities. 

I see evidence that a society with law and order is happy. However, if that type of law and order is oppressive and quells individual pursuits, then how can you call it happy? Maybe it functions, but that doesn't mean it is happy. Prisons function well also.

I think the Discovery Channel / History Channel / NETFLIX / HULU / HBO / DISNEY / FOX / PBS..... productions are  all bursting with  GLOBALIST PROPAGANDA / TOTALLY STAGED DRAMA..

It would be so difficult for these people to avoid the temptations and luxuries of the outside world...I don't know how they do it.

FOS » 23 Aug 2022, 5:07 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Aug 2022, 5:07 pm

Where to begin...sheesh.

...start by learning about the REALITIES of the most powerful man-made system of/for societal control: (((((((THE MONEY))))))))

...stfu about your uniquely lame/retarded ideas about every THEORETICAL    'ism' until you do, dumb@ss...      

GHETTOBLASTER » 24 Aug 2022, 12:11 am » wrote: ↑

24 Aug 2022, 12:11 am

I think the Discovery Channel / History Channel / NETFLIX / HULU / HBO / DISNEY / FOX / PBS..... productions are  all bursting with  GLOBALIST PROPAGANDA / TOTALLY STAGED DRAMA..

It would be so difficult for these people to avoid the temptations and luxuries of the outside world...I don't know how they do it.

they don’t watch tv .  They don’t use electricity at all, just candles for light
 

SJConspirator » 24 Aug 2022, 7:34 am » wrote: ↑

24 Aug 2022, 7:34 am

they don’t watch tv .  They don’t use electricity at all, just candles for light

The Amish "Docu-series" I saw was produced by one of those [[[GLOBALIST PROPAGANDA TV NETWORKS]]] and it was plain to see that the aim was to portray the Amish as a highly dysfunctional and dangerous CULT OF MENTALLY ILL WEIRDOS AND SADISTS....  

The Nazis did not end class struggle. They suppressed all forms of protests, strikes and dissent, using prisons, torture and execution.
**** all Nazis and **** Nazisim!

Xavier_Onassis » 24 Aug 2022, 10:17 am » wrote: ↑

24 Aug 2022, 10:17 am

The Nazis did not end class struggle. They suppressed all forms of protests, strikes and dissent, using prisons, torture and execution.
**** all Nazis and **** Nazisim!

....ime, stooooooooooopid f@cking nazis/authoritardians don't understand that people don't like being told what to do.....and the stooooooooooopid f@cking nazis/authoritardians who like telling people what to do are the worst among us...   

Vegas » 23 Aug 2022, 10:53 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Aug 2022, 10:53 pm

I don't think any humans are meant to be like ants or bees. They may have fallen into those ways, but that is contrary to our nature. We are wired to rebel when enslaved. Slavery always has rebellions.

The Chinese Communist Party has thought very seriously about how to mold human society into a peaceful harmonious system using  cellphones, rewards and credits.  This is what we seem to be headed for if we allow Russia to win in Ukraine.

https://nhglobalpartners.com/china-soci ... explained/

Xavier_Onassis » 24 Aug 2022, 10:55 am » wrote: ↑

24 Aug 2022, 10:55 am

The Chinese Communist Party has thought very seriously about how to mold human society into a peaceful harmonious system using  cellphones, rewards and credits.  This is what we seem to be headed for if we allow Russia to win in Ukraine.

https://nhglobalpartners.com/china-soci ... explained/

How will Russia influence America into communism if they win? 

Xavier_Onassis » 24 Aug 2022, 10:55 am » wrote: ↑

24 Aug 2022, 10:55 am

The Chinese Communist Party has thought very seriously about how to mold human society into a peaceful harmonious system using  cellphones, rewards and credits.  This is what we seem to be headed for if we allow Russia to win in Ukraine.

https://nhglobalpartners.com/china-soci ... explained/

If we allow..?

Did Russia ask your permission for something?

SJConspirator » 24 Aug 2022, 12:43 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Aug 2022, 12:43 pm

If we allow..?

Did Russia ask your permission for something?

No, by "If we allow" I mean, if the US allows Russia to annex Ukraine, then the goal is to weaken the EU and NATO and Russia and China come out as winners. And China has a plan to basically control huge populations by using data streamed from cellphones.

I find that distasteful.

Xavier_Onassis » 24 Aug 2022, 1:01 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Aug 2022, 1:01 pm

No, by "If we allow" I mean, if the US allows Russia to annex Ukraine, then the goal is to weaken the EU and NATO and Russia and China come out as winners. And China has a plan to basically control huge populations by using data streamed from cellphones.

I find that distasteful.

China is behind us on that plan lol.  Apple and Google already do that to Americans

FOS » 23 Aug 2022, 10:37 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Aug 2022, 10:37 pm

I have plenty of respect for folks like hegel and bietzsche. They were very smart people. But they didn't know modern biology...ok? That is the puzzle piece you are missing. Human behavior is genetic. The way we gorm societies is also based on instincts informed by genetics. Every wolf pack has an alpha and every tribe has a chieftain. Even if humans fooled themselves into thinking we wanted an egalitarian society we would be unable to.

That's what I am saying.

The scientists have discovered the gene of cowardice, which is dominant. We can infer (using basic Mendelian genetics) that all brave people are homozygous. All offspring of a brave and homozygous coward are cowardly. Two heterozygous cowards can have a brave child with the probability 1/4.

One has to promptly enslave homozygous cowards to save humanity.
 
 

FOS » 23 Aug 2022, 9:03 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Aug 2022, 9:03 pm

But the formation of the state and the nature of power is automatic. It happens without us having to think about it...

   

...it's obvious these authoritardians [and monetary ignoramuses] have never thought about it....