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Independent » 25 Aug 2022, 1:27 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Aug 2022, 1:27 pm

The “Big lie” is that the rich don’t pay their fair share.

The Rich pay way more than their fair share.  And, F- those who pay nothing!!! They have no right saying diddly squat about what anyone else pays, eve if it's only $1.
 

Skans » 25 Aug 2022, 1:08 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Aug 2022, 1:08 pm

Seems very easy to me.  For every individual residing here - there should be at least one minimum payment of $1,000/year.  No pay, no benefits. The greater the benefits received, the more that person should be taxed.

IMHO, that is a good use of IRS audits and agents.

….could certainly get behind your thinking…..what about the expansion of the IRS and Enforcement?

ClevelandSteamer » 25 Aug 2022, 1:37 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Aug 2022, 1:37 pm

Additionally,
You can't get back more than you paid in per year.
I prepare taxes P/T at HR Block.
We get single mothers in there that have 6 kids from 5 or more daddies, a P/T job or even No job,
and they get a Government Refund for 12K or more plus any taxes that they paid in.

This is unacceptable
 
Cleveland is the "largest poorest city" in the USA (2019)

Pure handouts and redistribution of other people's hard earned money.
 

Pastafarian » 25 Aug 2022, 1:12 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Aug 2022, 1:12 pm

I don’t see Dems raising taxes on our most vulnerable.

Wow….I see the Dems raising taxes on the everyone and especially the Middle Class, which-in-turn will make the Middle Class more vulnerable.

Unless someone is committing tax fraud, they are paying "their fair share". The "fair share" of everyone is determined by the tax code. However, if you don't think you are paying enough, you are free to make a donation to the federal government.

Pastafarian » 25 Aug 2022, 1:12 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Aug 2022, 1:12 pm

I don’t see Dems raising taxes on our most vulnerable.

Then you're blind as well as ignorant!

What do you think Biden's intentional inflation policies are doing to your "most vulnerable"?  
Do you think those "most vulnerable" like seeing Biden hand out thousands of tax dollars to illegals, on top of giving them free smart phones, free healthcare, free clothes, free housing, free education and free transportation anywhere they want to go in this country, while putting them up in luxury hotels that cost us taxpayers over $400 a night to fund such stupidity?
Why don't you tell me how a $3 a gallon INCREASE in gas prices and heating oil hurts only 'the rich" and not those you consider "most vulnerable"?  Aren't those same most vulnerable affected by the huge spike in food prices, or don't they eat like the rest of us humans?  Think the tens of thousands of homeless (many of them veterans), don't mind seeing your idiot puppet send hundreds of billions to Ukraine while they have to live on the street?  Are you dumb enough to believe that the poor and middle class aren't living in far more dangerous conditions where violent crime, weekly gun shootings, waves of drug pushers, wild looting sprees and car jackings are most common?  I can tell you first hand that those who are as wealthy as me are in the safest surroundings possible.  I can leave one or two of my cars in our driveway every night, walk our dog any time at night without fear, and have never been woken up by gunfire on my street or heard of any robberies at gunpoint or muggings in my neighborhood.

The difference between us is that I still give a **** about those who are most vulnerable and I'm able to point specifically at the idiot who is to blame for all of it, and it's the scumbag Alzheimer's patient that YOU voted for, NOT ME!  
 

jefftec » 25 Aug 2022, 1:48 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Aug 2022, 1:48 pm

….could certainly get behind your thinking…..what about the expansion of the IRS and Enforcement?

That is really not necessary.  Just to get everyone to kick in $1,000?  This type of enforcement was already bought and paid for when Obama levied a Health Insurance tax on everyone.

ClevelandSteamer » 25 Aug 2022, 2:30 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Aug 2022, 2:30 pm

Oh, you will see it. Biden's Build Back Better Ponzi Scheme allows Trump's 2017 tax cut for the middle class and lower income Americans to expire.

The expiration of the Trump tax cuts would hit lower-income Americans the hardest. Those with less than $19,900 of taxable income—reducing the standard deduction would mean an additional $1,295 in taxes.

His budget would allow the 2017 Trump tax cuts to expire, setting all working Americans up for a large tax increase in three short years.

https://www.heritage.org/taxes/commenta ... ich-claims

 @jefftec  as well

Republicans are always waiting for the Apocalypse. 
 

Zeets2 » 25 Aug 2022, 2:13 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Aug 2022, 2:13 pm

Then you're blind as well as ignorant!

What do you think Biden's intentional inflation policies are doing to your "most vulnerable"?  
Do you think those "most vulnerable" like seeing Biden hand out thousands of tax dollars to illegals, on top of giving them free smart phones, free healthcare, free clothes, free housing, free education and free transportation anywhere they want to go in this country, while putting them up in luxury hotels that cost us taxpayers over $400 a night to fund such stupidity?
Why don't you tell me how a $3 a gallon INCREASE in gas prices and heating oil hurts only 'the rich" and not those you consider "most vulnerable"?  Aren't those same most vulnerable affected by the huge spike in food prices, or don't they eat like the rest of us humans?  Think the tens of thousands of homeless (many of them veterans), don't mind seeing your idiot puppet send hundreds of billions to Ukraine while they have to live on the street?  Are you dumb enough to believe that the poor and middle class aren't living in far more dangerous conditions where violent crime, weekly gun shootings, waves of drug pushers, wild looting sprees and car jackings are most common?  I can tell you first hand that those who are as wealthy as me are in the safest surroundings possible.  I can leave one or two of my cars in our driveway every night, walk our dog any time at night without fear, and have never been woken up by gunfire on my street or heard of any robberies at gunpoint or muggings in my neighborhood.

The difference between us is that I still give a **** about those who are most vulnerable and I'm able to point specifically at the idiot who is to blame for all of it, and it's the scumbag Alzheimer's patient that YOU voted for, NOT ME!

Can you prove all that? Luxury hotels? And all that jizz. 
 

ClevelandSteamer » 25 Aug 2022, 2:46 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Aug 2022, 2:46 pm

Republicans are always trying to AVOID the the Apocalypse.
Democrats are always trying to CAUSE the Apocalypse.

Democrats believe that if the "Destroy It" no matter what the cost, they can build it back better.
Nothing farther from the truth. Look at Obama. What a joke! 8 years of destruction.

Lol. Then why so many Republican caused recessions?


 

Skans » 25 Aug 2022, 2:16 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Aug 2022, 2:16 pm

That is really not necessary.  Just to get everyone to kick in $1,000?  This type of enforcement was already bought and paid for when Obama levied a Health Insurance tax on everyone.

….ok, worth an effort to do….
​​​​​​……can’t be any worse than the results we have now.

Pastafarian » 25 Aug 2022, 2:44 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Aug 2022, 2:44 pm

Can you prove all that? Luxury hotels? And all that jizz.

…..what are they doing here in the first place ?

jefftec » 25 Aug 2022, 1:51 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Aug 2022, 1:51 pm

Wow….I see the Dems raising taxes on the everyone and especially the Middle Class, which-in-turn will make the Middle Class more vulnerable.

Sure, sheep. 

https://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2 ... s.html?m=1

ClevelandSteamer » 25 Aug 2022, 2:50 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Aug 2022, 2:50 pm

Biden caused this one

With a whole bunch of Trump’s trade wars mixed in. 


 

jefftec » 25 Aug 2022, 2:49 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Aug 2022, 2:49 pm

…..what are they doing here in the first place ?

Trying to make a living, raise families and become Americans. 


 

Pastafarian » 25 Aug 2022, 2:52 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Aug 2022, 2:52 pm

Trying to make a living, raise families and become Americans.

….. If I didn’t know any better, that would almost noble…..even virtuous, except for the fact that they came into the US illegally and The Biden Administration is complicit in their criminal acts.
​​​​​​…..eh so, in reality, you’re full of sh/t…..
​​​……astonished that you tried that one..ppfftt

Pastafarian » 25 Aug 2022, 2:52 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Aug 2022, 2:52 pm

Trying to make a living, raise families and become Americans.

seriously? do you watch any OTHER news? Do you even know rainbow looking candy? is coming across our border? targeting kids... laced with fentanlyl! you fool

Pastafarian » 25 Aug 2022, 2:44 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Aug 2022, 2:44 pm

Can you prove all that? Luxury hotels?

You know you're right!  I CAN'T prove how we're paying ONLY $400 a night for luxury hotels to house illegals.  That was just the initial estimated cost I heard.  Fact is we're paying for 600 illegal families BETWEEN $424 AND $724 PER NIGHT in NYC that will cost at least $300 MILLION, on top of the hundreds of thousands of dollars more it will cost taxpayers in cash, clothes, smart phones, free healthcare, and free education FOR ILLEGALS, WHILE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN CITIZENS ARE LIVING ON THE STREET!

And ignorant liberal dopes like YOU think that's just fine, don't you?

NYC Mayor Adams puts migrants in a luxury hotel that costs $700 a night
Fox News 8/24/22

 

NYC To Pay for Illegal Immigrants To Take Over Luxury Manhattan Hotel
Human Events By Ari Hoffman  |  8/16/22
A luxury Manhattan hotel will soon be used to provide housing to hundreds of illegal migrants, according to the NY Post.

The outlet reported that Democratic Mayor Eric Adams plans to convert the Row NYC, formerly known as the Milford Plaza and nicknamed the “Lullaby of Broadway” in Times Square, into an intake center and shelter for as many as 600 migrant families.

The mayor’s office has not released any details but did tell the NY Post on Monday that the city has extended its deadline for receiving bids from organizations interested in operating the center.

The daily weekday rate for a standard room with one full or queen bed in mid-September ranges from $414.42 to $435.07 per night and “Superior” rooms with two double or queen beds range in price from $445.40 to $547.41, including taxes and fees.

A one-bedroom executive suite costs $724.24 per night.

Care to try defending the demented socialist puppet you voted for NOW, moron?

 
 

Skans » 25 Aug 2022, 12:47 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Aug 2022, 12:47 pm

It's high time that All Americans pay their fair share to live in this country with freedoms intact. So, I propose taxing every adult person residing here (citizen, non-citizen, etc) who has been eligible to pay taxes, but hasn't paid any income tax for over 2 years.  The tax should be a set at a minimum of $1,000 per individual.  Everyone must be invested in this country, and that means NON-TAX PAYERS NEED TO START PAYING THEIR FAIR SHARE.

Bad luck most are illegals and as such not traceable !

By far most disappear into the underworld and become criminals  . . .  which they were in the first place, before leaving their home countries anyway !

A minority of them find a job somewhere plucking tomatoes, zucchini and stuff like that !
Still not traceable, though !

Soooooo  . . .  good luck in having them pay their taxes !

Skans » 25 Aug 2022, 12:47 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Aug 2022, 12:47 pm

It's high time that All Americans pay their fair share to live in this country with freedoms intact. So, I propose taxing every adult person residing here (citizen, non-citizen, etc) who has been eligible to pay taxes, but hasn't paid any income tax for over 2 years.  The tax should be a set at a minimum of $1,000 per individual.  Everyone must be invested in this country, and that means NON-TAX PAYERS NEED TO START PAYING THEIR FAIR SHARE.