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JinnMartini » 25 Aug 2022, 6:46 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Aug 2022, 6:46 pm

Bad luck most are illegals and as such not traceable !

By far most disappear into the underworld and become criminals  . . .  which they were in the first place, before leaving their home countries anyway !

A minority of them find a job somewhere plucking tomatoes, zucchini and stuff like that !
Still not traceable, though !

Soooooo  . . .  good luck in having them pay their taxes !

Oh, they aren't hard to find if you want to find them.  It just takes the citizens of this nation to have quite a bit more testicular fortitude than we actually have.
 

Skans » 25 Aug 2022, 1:02 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Aug 2022, 1:02 pm

Thanks.  It's an uphill battle, I know.  Especially when Democrats are throwing gobs of money to those who never earned it, don't deserve it and pay nothing in taxes.  BUT, it's truly the right thing to do.  I am on solid moral grounds advocating for this and I genuinely think you know this.

10 individuals :  own more than 300 million Americans combined

Skans:  tax the 300 million!  RAISE THEIR TAXES



 

SJConspirator » 25 Aug 2022, 7:36 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Aug 2022, 7:36 pm

10 individuals :  own more than 300 million Americans combined

Skans:  tax the 300 million!  RAISE THEIR TAXES


 

That's right - tax the 300 million people who live here.  They need to contribute just like those who pay taxes.  It is weak and deadbeat-enabling to let them off the hook from paying income taxes.
 

Skans » 25 Aug 2022, 12:47 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Aug 2022, 12:47 pm

It's high time that All Americans pay their fair share to live in this country with freedoms intact. So, I propose taxing every adult person residing here (citizen, non-citizen, etc) who has been eligible to pay taxes, but hasn't paid any income tax for over 2 years.  The tax should be a set at a minimum of $1,000 per individual.  Everyone must be invested in this country, and that means NON-TAX PAYERS NEED TO START PAYING THEIR FAIR SHARE.

When you have millions in assets and make your money solely from borrowing against the assets, you will never pay income tax
 

Skans » 25 Aug 2022, 7:36 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Aug 2022, 7:36 pm

 It just takes the citizens of this nation to have quite a bit more testicular fortitude than we actually have.

THAT's  the hard part of it ! 

So there you have it !

Skans » 25 Aug 2022, 12:55 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Aug 2022, 12:55 pm

Not voting is not enough. Make them pay - they need to be invested.  If they refuse to pay, take their right to vote away and their right to receive any entitlement payments of any kind.

This is why you are the most HATED on both forums!
You HATE the people, don't you?
 

Skans » 25 Aug 2022, 7:38 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Aug 2022, 7:38 pm

That's right - tax the 300 million people who live here.  They need to contribute just like those who pay taxes.  It is weak and deadbeat-enabling to let them off the hook from paying income taxes.

why should the peasants pay even more to the oligarchs?  What will satisfy you - 90% homelessness?  How much suffering is enough to make you happy?

GeorgeWashington » 25 Aug 2022, 7:43 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Aug 2022, 7:43 pm

When you have millions in assets and make your money solely from borrowing against the assets, you will never pay income tax

That's ****. First, no one makes money solely from "borrowing against their assets" - that would lead to a real net loss.

So, what are you REALLY referring to when you claim someone makes money from borrowing against their assets?  Short selling?  Lending the borrowed money at a higher rate?  Leveraging the purchase of an income producing asset?
 

nuckinfutz » 25 Aug 2022, 7:54 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Aug 2022, 7:54 pm

This is why you are the most HATED on both forums!
You HATE the people, don't you?

You claim I HATE the people.  Why?  Just because I want everyone to pay taxes, not only the select few that YOU think should be paying taxes?  Because I think EVERYONE should be invested in this country, not only a select few that woke politicians decide to pick on?

SJConspirator » 25 Aug 2022, 7:58 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Aug 2022, 7:58 pm

why should the peasants pay even more to the oligarchs?  What will satisfy you - 90% homelessness?  How much suffering is enough to make you happy?

If one person is forced to pay taxes all people should be forced to pay taxes.  That is equality.  That is justice.  That is applying the laws of this nation equally to all regardless of race, religion, national origin, disability, or sex.  It is a founding principal of America.  If you are against this, then you are against the Nation as constructed by our Founding Fathers.
 

sootedupCyndi » 25 Aug 2022, 3:20 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Aug 2022, 3:20 pm

seriously? do you watch any OTHER news? Do you even know rainbow looking candy? is coming across our border? targeting kids... laced with fentanlyl! you fool

^^^^white supremacist propaganda. 
 

Skans » 25 Aug 2022, 12:47 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Aug 2022, 12:47 pm

It's high time that All Americans pay their fair share to live in this country with freedoms intact. So, I propose taxing every adult person residing here (citizen, non-citizen, etc) who has been eligible to pay taxes, but hasn't paid any income tax for over 2 years.  The tax should be a set at a minimum of $1,000 per individual.  Everyone must be invested in this country, and that means NON-TAX PAYERS NEED TO START PAYING THEIR FAIR SHARE.

every person is taxed already. Sales tax of most things purchased legally. people have their biological time taxed away serving ideas sustaining societal evolution to replace genetic displacement time being alive now.

omh » 26 Aug 2022, 6:30 am » wrote: ↑

26 Aug 2022, 6:30 am

every person is taxed already. Sales tax of most things purchased legally. people have their biological time taxed away serving ideas sustaining societal evolution to replace genetic displacement time being alive now.

That's right.  But, if you go back and re-read what I wrote, I wasn't discussing sales tax.  I was discussing Income tax, which I specifically and intentionally stated in my OP. 

Everyone who buys stuff pays sales tax.  But, only a relatively few people pay federal income tax.  Either we all pay, or none of us pay - this is what is meant by "equal justice for all". 
 

Skans » 25 Aug 2022, 12:47 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Aug 2022, 12:47 pm

It's high time that All Americans pay their fair share to live in this country with freedoms intact. So, I propose taxing every adult person residing here (citizen, non-citizen, etc) who has been eligible to pay taxes, but hasn't paid any income tax for over 2 years.  The tax should be a set at a minimum of $1,000 per individual.  Everyone must be invested in this country, and that means NON-TAX PAYERS NEED TO START PAYING THEIR FAIR SHARE.

another freebee for illegal immigrants paid for by legal citizens. ^^^^^^^ wow look how tyrannical minds think at playing everyone else as brainless type cast social identities..

Skans » 26 Aug 2022, 6:37 am » wrote: ↑

26 Aug 2022, 6:37 am

That's right.  But, if you go back and re-read what I wrote, I wasn't discussing sales tax.  I was discussing Income tax, which I specifically and intentionally stated in my OP. 

Everyone who buys stuff pays sales tax.  But, only a relatively few people pay federal income tax.  Either we all pay, or none of us pay - this is what is meant by "equal justice for all". 
 

it is all about reality governing outcomes of great great grandchildren evolving into 1 of 16 great great grandparents imaging life beyond limited to eternally separated now each lifetime added historically here as specifically ancestrally displaced.

omh » 26 Aug 2022, 6:40 am » wrote: ↑

26 Aug 2022, 6:40 am

another freebee for illegal immigrants paid for by legal citizens. ^^^^^^^ wow look how tyrannical minds think at playing everyone else as brainless type cast social identities..

How is forcing illegal immigrants to pay income tax a "freebee"?
 

Skans » 26 Aug 2022, 6:41 am » wrote: ↑

26 Aug 2022, 6:41 am

How is forcing illegal immigrants to pay income tax a "freebee"?
 

it is reverse psychology. You justify allowing open borders by demanding everyone is legally taxed but how does anyone collect taxes on people not registered and working/panhandling for cash at major intersections with the optics its is random chance while specifically organized to happen.

Don't play mind over matter semantics with my brain navigating space limited to mutually timed ancestrally apart now. I completely understand the basics of compounding changes only existing forward from here.

Skans » 26 Aug 2022, 6:41 am » wrote: ↑

26 Aug 2022, 6:41 am

How is forcing illegal immigrants to pay income tax a "freebee"?
 

ha ha ha ha the more tax revenue the more social programs sustain higher debt with budgets projected 20 years forward over spending last years revenues.

I understand time never moves anything, just motives the living to avoid understanding life is limited to only occupying space now in one's cycle being here since conceived to replace last 30 soles making up 93.75% their unique DNA populating space here.

Self evident kinetic evolving by the ever changing numbers lasting one at a time inorganic or ancestral.
Reality retards instinctive awareness believing real isn't self evident and doubt enlightens minds of social narrative type cast performances done saving humanity on a world stage working reasonable doubt 5 generation present.

omh » 26 Aug 2022, 6:47 am » wrote: ↑

26 Aug 2022, 6:47 am

it is reverse psychology. You justify allowing open borders by demanding everyone is legally taxed but how does anyone collect taxes on people not registered and working/panhandling for cash at major intersections with the optics its is random chance while specifically organized to happen.

Don't play mind over matter semantics with my brain navigating space limited to mutually timed ancestrally apart now. I completely understand the basics of compounding changes only existing forward from here.

I justify allowing open borders?  You're way off there.  I advocate for a full-blown military response at our border to shoot on site any illegal invaders trying to cross our border.  I advocate for taking a 20-mile deep swath of land in Mexico by force and placing land mines there to stop invaders. 

As for those illegals who are already here, I advocate rounding them up by force and expeditiously deporting them.  Yes, while they are here they need to pay income taxes too, but that does not mitigate their illegal, invader status or entitle them to stay here. It does allow the IRS to freeze illegals' bank accounts as they are being deported to Mexico, until they file a tax return and pay taxes.
 

Skans » 26 Aug 2022, 7:02 am » wrote: ↑

26 Aug 2022, 7:02 am

I justify allowing open borders?  You're way off there.  I advocate for a full-blown military response at our border to shoot on site any illegal invaders trying to cross our border.  I advocate for taking a 20-mile deep swath of land in Mexico by force and placing land mines there to stop invaders. 

As for those illegals who are already here, I advocate rounding them up by force and expeditiously deporting them.  Yes, while they are here they need to pay income taxes too, but that does not mitigate their illegal, invader status or entitle them to stay here. It does allow the IRS to freeze illegals' bank accounts as they are being deported to Mexico, until they file a tax return and pay taxes.
 

First two words. plausible deniability in a rhetorical question used as syllogism to deflect your intentional outcome as my behavior here. Transference in the science of psychiatry playing philosophy and psychology against everyone around you so you can create an advantage between over people never learned about actual life as historically performed in their own genetic path between inception and extinction of this species ancestrally displaced as usual.