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If anyone wants a prime example of why, after putting up with nearly a year of pile-on attacks, personal insults, threats, drive-by **** posts, fraudulent "direct quotes" and other nonsensical content whose SOLE purpose was to obscure the FACTS and DERAIL the topic from nearly EVERY one of my threads, 

one only need look at my similarly titled thread in the so-called "Liberals Only Chat Room" in which, in the course of several days, and with the possible exception of one who posted some on topic responses, there were some 40 odd **** responses from clearly NOT liberals 

NONE of which had a fkng thing to do with the information presented in the thread. NOTHING but continued **** posting, as USUAL and FROM the usual suspects, even after I initially TRIED to ignore them and redirect to the topics of discussion.   

Well, let's see them try that HERE.

PG THREAD RULES: applies to this thread as all my PG enabled threads: rational discussions, points counter points, rebuttals and responses are welcome, but NOT personal insults, name calling, fabricating 'direct' quotes, hate speech, drive by **** posting, trolling, and senseless content. Those who've habitually engaged in such have already been uninvited, while some have NOT been uninvited...yet.  
 

TRUTH TO POWER - POWER TO TRUTH

Former Fox News editor claims viewers have been 'deceived' and 'coddled' over the years

“As American journalists, we have an obligation to our country. … If we love our country, and we love our fellow countrymen and countrywomen,” Stirewalt said, “what we have to do is make sure that the work that we’re doing is in service of, and not destructive to, those ambitions.”

AND, Trump is also responsible for the spread of FASCISM and AUTHORITARIANISM ABROAD:

“There Wouldn’t Be a Bolsonaro in Brazil if There Hadn’t Been a Trump in the United States” – Mother Jones

MEANWHILE, GOOD NEWS:

Joe Biden Canceling Up To $20,000 Of Student Loan Debt Per Borrower | HuffPost Latest News

Biden Announces Nearly $3 Billion In Ukraine Military Aid For Years Ahead | HuffPost Latest News

Biden Administration Could Offer New COVID Booster Shots Early Next Month: Report

Joe Biden To Host Unity Summit Against Hate-Fueled Violence In September 

5 good things Biden has done for all of us | Fox News   (YES, FROM THAT FOX NEWS)


 
 

Biden just forgave $10,000 in student loan debt. Elizabeth Warren calls it ‘one of the biggest acts of consumer debt relief in American history,’ while Mitch McConnell calls it ‘socialism’

Pirro Slams Debt Relief, Says Her Family Paid for Her School

CALLING IT OUT FOR WHAT IT IS:

Ever hear the term "there's something to be said (for)"? It usually means some compliment is to follow. But not THIS time. 

Because I happen to think there's something to be said for minorities and immigrants (especially immigrants of colour) who endorse and support hateful, racist, FASCIST rhetoric and supremacy...

only, it ISN'T something I'D say in MIXED COMPANY:

North Carolina Republican: Children below 5th grade shouldn't be taught science or history in school

Florida Lt. Gov. Jeanette Nuñez faces backlash after suggesting Cuban migrants in Florida 'illegally' would be bused to Delaware

Florida’s Cuban-American lieutenant governor sells out her heritage for anti-immigrant votes | Opinion

Rebuking new climate law, Herschel Walker asks: 'Don’t we have enough trees around here?'

SPEAKING OF WHICH:

Rosa Parks' Brutally Honest Words On Clarence Thomas' Supreme Court Nomination

 
 

Rock » 25 Aug 2022, 8:42 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Aug 2022, 8:42 pm

Thread fail. You gonna ban me again?

A drive by **** post AGAIN. And yes, you're banned. Happy??

Allow me to restate the intent of this thread since my original post may now be a little difficult to read.

This thread was created as a peanut gallery enabled thread because of several days of off topic bickering, back and forths, name-calling and other nonsense NONE of which had ANYTHING to do with the information presented in the thread. Numbering approximately 40 **** responses, that continued AFTER I tried to ignore them and stick to the topics at hand.

Those who are actually INTERESTED in discussing the topics are welcome to do so here.


PG THREAD RULES: applies to this thread as all my PG enabled threads: rational discussions, points counter points, rebuttals and responses are welcome, but NOT personal insults, name calling, fabricating 'direct' quotes, hate speech, drive by **** posting, trolling, and senseless content. Those who've habitually engaged in such have already been uninvited, while some have NOT been uninvited...yet.  

 

Rock » 25 Aug 2022, 9:07 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Aug 2022, 9:07 pm

You sound a little agitated. Maybe if you didn't ban everyone who disagrees with you you might learn something.

No... just wondering why YOU'RE playing ignorant.

I didn't ban everyone who disagreed with me in the pg threads. But now I know you can't see that (unless you read them by not signing in, as I suspect you might).

You didn't disagree with me in this thread. YOU came IN with insults. But here. I've UNbanned you.

Let's see if you can contribute anything of any worth other than being a smart----.
 

B.See » 26 Aug 2022, 10:48 am » wrote: ↑

26 Aug 2022, 10:48 am

No... just wondering why YOU'RE playing ignorant.

I didn't ban everyone who disagreed with me in the pg threads. But now I know you can't see that (unless you read them by not signing in, as I suspect you might).

You didn't disagree with me in this thread. YOU came IN with insults. But here. I've UNbanned you.

Let's see if you can contribute anything of any worth other than being a smart----.

I didn't ban everyone who disagreed with me in the pg threads. But now I know you can't see that (unless you read them by not signing in, as I suspect you might).

I wouldn't waste my time. I don't live on this forum like some here do.

You can keep me on ban. I just wanted to point out how cowardly it is to ban people. A few days ago I clicked on one of your threads only to find that I'd been banned. I don't even remember what I had said to cause it.

Your threads aren't worth the trouble.
 

Rock » 26 Aug 2022, 11:32 am » wrote: ↑

26 Aug 2022, 11:32 am

I wouldn't waste my time. I don't live on this forum like some here do.

You can keep me on ban. I just wanted to point out how cowardly it is to ban people. A few days ago I clicked on one of your threads only to find that I'd been banned. I don't even remember what I had said to cause it.

Your threads aren't worth the trouble.

OH??  So after all that NOISE you made about being banned, and how you didn't have a chance to respond, and the name-calling etc. etc. etc.

YOU don't have ANYTHING OF SUBSTANCE to offer to this thread???  I'm SO SURPRISED.

B.See » 25 Aug 2022, 7:47 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Aug 2022, 7:47 pm

Biden just forgave $10,000 in student loan debt. Elizabeth Warren calls it ‘one of the biggest acts of consumer debt relief in American history,’ while Mitch McConnell calls it ‘socialism’

In other words they stuck the bill for their trans-gender studies ultimately on the backs of their responsible peers, who worked their way through school, rather than through parasitizing taxpayers.

Pirro Slams Debt Relief, Says Her Family Paid for Her School

As mine did for me and my wife and I did for our kids. It's what substance-free parents - that sacrifice personal desires and instead drive around in 10-year old cars and skip vacations - do to raise kids.

However studies show that young people that work their way through college do generally perform better than their peers whose tuitions are paid, because they become more skilled at time management.

 
 

Seems loan forgiveness is only a problem for MAGAS when the forgiveness ISN'T FOR FILTHY RICH MAGA LAWMAKERS:

Elizabeth Warren points out Mitch McConnell graduated from a school that cost $330 a year amid his criticisms of Biden's student-loan forgiveness: 'He can spare us the lectures on fairness'

The White House responds to GOP whining over student loan cancellation with reminders

White House Slams Republicans Who Criticized Student Debt Relief But Received PPP Loans

Column: Republicans attacking student loan relief as a taxpayer burden got their own degrees on taxpayers' dime

White House shines light on Republicans who are criticizing student debt cancellation after getting their PPP loans forgiven

Conservative Steve Cortes slams GOP 'payoffs' to CEOs: Dems are 'smart enough' to forgive student loans 
 
 

ON BRINGING KNIVES TO A GUNFIGHT:

Why CNN’s efforts to appease democracy’s enemies will backfire

Since 2016, MAGA propagandists ... have at one time or another been on the CNN payroll.

On one hand, they aided and abetted a figure who amplified violence against CNN, labeled the free press the “enemy of the people,” and with the other, they cashed CNN’s checks.

And yet, the powers-that-be seem to cling to this ludicrous notion that an audience in search of the “most trusted name in news” would somehow benefit from the continued elevation of these professional gas-lighters.

GOOD NEWS:

Civil rights icon Andrew Young: Inflation Reduction Act as a sign of progress

Biden canceled billions in student debt, what he plans next could have an even bigger impact

Biden shuts down heckler at campaign launch: ‘Ignorance knows no boundaries’

Biden Makes Big Move to Protect Dreamers. the Program Remains Under Threat

Inflation Tumbles Giving Biden Cover on Student Loans

ALSO:

Joe Biden Goes 'Dark Brandon’ Comes Out Fighting 

and it's ABOUT FKNG TIME. Can't play nice with those bstrds.

 
 

Rock » 26 Aug 2022, 11:32 am » wrote: ↑

26 Aug 2022, 11:32 am

I wouldn't waste my time. I don't live on this forum like some here do.

You can keep me on ban. I just wanted to point out how cowardly it is to ban people. A few days ago I clicked on one of your threads only to find that I'd been banned. I don't even remember what I had said to cause it.

Your threads aren't worth the trouble.

Did you say "cowardly", rock?

B.See » 29 Aug 2022, 9:45 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Aug 2022, 9:45 pm

ON BRINGING KNIVES TO A GUNFIGHT:

Why CNN’s efforts to appease democracy’s enemies will backfire

Since 2016, MAGA propagandists ... have at one time or another been on the CNN payroll.

On one hand, they aided and abetted a figure who amplified violence against CNN, labeled the free press the “enemy of the people,” and with the other, they cashed CNN’s checks.

And yet, the powers-that-be seem to cling to this ludicrous notion that an audience in search of the “most trusted name in news” would somehow benefit from the continued elevation of these professional gas-lighters.



ALSO:

Joe Biden Goes 'Dark Brandon’ Comes Out Fighting 

and it's ABOUT FKNG TIME. Can't play nice with those bstrds.

Dark Brandon.....I like it.
 
 

Blackvegetable » 30 Aug 2022, 6:53 am » wrote: ↑

30 Aug 2022, 6:53 am

Did you say "cowardly", rock?

I've never banned anyone.

Rock » 30 Aug 2022, 8:50 am » wrote: ↑

30 Aug 2022, 8:50 am

I've never banned anyone.

That wasn't the question. 
 

WHAT DO YOU MEAN "SEMI" MR. PRESIDENT?

Biden's speech in Maryland criticizes 'semi-fascism' underpinning the 'extreme MAGA philosophy' - CNNPolitics

President Joe Biden offered one of his sharpest rebukes Thursday of Republicans who have stuck to the credo of his predecessor, labeling it “semi-fascism” and predicting it has gone too far for most of the country.

In one of his most spirited speeches as commander in chief, Biden cast his presidency as one of recovery from the Covid-19 pandemic – “We’ve come a long way,” he said – while lambasting Republicans he said were blocking him at every turn.

“In 2020, you and 81 million Americans voted to save our democracy,” Biden told a roaring crowd. “That’s why Donald Trump isn’t just a former -resident. He is a defeated former -resident.”
 

TRUTH TO POWER - POWER TO TRUTH
CALLING THEM OUT FOR WHO AND WHAT THEY ARE:
.Historian: Biden is correct, Trump poses existential threat to future of democracy - Raw Story

'I struck a nerve': Robert Reich lays out a case for calling Ron DeSantis a 'fascist' - Alternet.org

Strange, When Donald Trump Called Democrats Fascists, There Wasn't An Uproar.

GOP's pearl-clutching over Biden's 'soul of the nation' speech tests the limits of hypocrisy (again)

Dark Brandon, more 'unfathomably dangerous' than a QAnon-pimping previous guy?

White House warns ‘MAGA Republicans’ are extremist threat to US democracy | US News

Florida's gubernatorial race is a 'referendum on democracy' - Alternet.org

AND:

You may be a "MAGA Republican" if ...

THE TRUTH SHALL SET US FREE!
.FASCISM 101: Lies, falsehoods and "vacuous truths": the GOP's realm of absolute emptiness - Why the media — even LOGIC, for that matter — have been utterly sabotaged in the Trump era

Biden’s speech delivered a hard truth: American democracy is under grave threat | Robert Reich

Joe Biden Calls On Nation To Reject Extremist Republicans Who Threaten Democracy 

MSNBC’s Tiffany Cross Says ‘Civil War’ With Trump Supporters ‘Has Already Begun’: ‘It’s More Than Just Threats’

MSNBC’s Presidential Historian Warns: Republican Party Taking America to Civil War and Hitler Eras

Trump's MAGA Movement Shows 'Two of the Hallmarks' of Fascism': Jamie Raskin

TRUTH, WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT

The party of treason "The Republican Party is the party of willing treason. There's no cutting around that..."

Frontline's 'Trump's American Carnage' is a portrait of a monster—and those who enabled him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVUs4dS30c0

ON THE FLIP SIDE:

California lawmakers approve landmark fast food workers bill

Biden's Philly Speech Shows a Man and Party Renewed—and Ready to Fight | Opinion

Democratic Donor Group Launches $15M Fund Before Midterms to Reach Latinos

AND "But her emails":

How Many Of 'Her Emails' Were Classified? Actually, Zero

'That's right: zero.' Hillary Clinton obliterates Donald Trump's false equivalency about classified documents - Alternet.org