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Huey » 07 Sep 2022, 2:02 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Sep 2022, 2:02 pm

@Blackvegetable    got on with it for god's sake. 

Now get on with this amazing case of yours explaining how that kick me ***, Drama Queen.

Right now you have done nothing.  And make sure when you make this amazing case you use my linked quotes.  You have a reputation of reframing on these long, drawn out productions of yours.

Shut the **** up and focus and it will take much less time

#readhissig
 
 

Blackvegetable » 07 Sep 2022, 1:47 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Sep 2022, 1:47 pm

Huey » 07 Sep 2022, 1:42 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Sep 2022, 1:42 pm

I already said your cut and paste was factual.  ****, I'm the one who told about Fairchild industries.  

Now **** or get off the pot.  You are talking a lot but proving nothing.

****, I'm the one who told about Fairchild industries. 

In Swedish, I bet.

Cretin.

To be clear, you acknowledge the facts in BOTH excerpts. 

Correct?

 

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Blackvegetable » 07 Sep 2022, 2:05 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Sep 2022, 2:05 pm

Huey » 07 Sep 2022, 2:02 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Sep 2022, 2:02 pm

@Blackvegetable    got on with it for god's sake. 

Now get on with this amazing case of yours explaining how that kick me ***, Drama Queen.

Right now you have done nothing.  And make sure when you make this amazing case you use my linked quotes.  You have a reputation of reframing on these long, drawn out productions of yours.

Shut the **** up and focus and it will take much less time

#reashissig
 

 

I am focused, loser.  I said both your cut and pastes were factual
  It would take less time DEMA if you get to the part where your cut and pastes kicked my ***.

Now **** do it or accept your loss. 

The parameters that were requested by CONARC:

• .22 caliber
• Bullet exceeding supersonic speed at 500 yards[11][5]
• Rifle weight of 6 lbs
• Magazine capacity of 20 rounds
• Select fire for both semi-automatic and fully automatic use
• Penetration of US steel helmet through one side at 500 yards
• Penetration of .135-inch steel plate at 500 yards
• Accuracy and ballistics equal to M2 ball ammunition (.30-06 Springfield) out to 500 yards
• Wounding ability equal to M1 carbine[5]

Ibid.

Acknowledge the facts.

Spare me the yapping.

Huey » 07 Sep 2022, 2:07 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Sep 2022, 2:07 pm

I am focused, loser.  I said both your cut and pastes were factual
  It would take less time DEMA if you get to the part where your cut and pastes kicked my ***.

Now **** do it or accept your loss.

Stupid lying little ****,

You couldn't understand that there were two.

Because you're a **** idiot.

Stop bitching cause you're a cretin.
 

Blackvegetable » 07 Sep 2022, 2:09 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Sep 2022, 2:09 pm

Stupid lying little ****,

You couldn't understand that there were two.

Because you're a **** idiot.

Stop bitching cause you're a cretin.

Meltdown Mary, calm down and present your case.  Against my better judgement I went ahead and agreed both of your CUT AND PASTES area factual.

This your time to put up or shut up.  Explain how your cut and pastes kick my ***.   I am waiting. You are not capable of doing so. 
 

Blackvegetable » 07 Sep 2022, 2:08 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Sep 2022, 2:08 pm

The parameters that were requested by CONARC:

• .22 caliber
• Bullet exceeding supersonic speed at 500 yards[11][5]
• Rifle weight of 6 lbs
• Magazine capacity of 20 rounds
• Select fire for both semi-automatic and fully automatic use
• Penetration of US steel helmet through one side at 500 yards
• Penetration of .135-inch steel plate at 500 yards
• Accuracy and ballistics equal to M2 ball ammunition (.30-06 Springfield) out to 500 yards
• Wounding ability equal to M1 carbine[5]

Ibid.

Acknowledge the facts.

Spare me the yapping.

Still waiting.  

 
 

Huey » 07 Sep 2022, 2:06 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Sep 2022, 2:06 pm

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The Armalite AR 15 was rebranded the M 16.  The AR 15 SPORTER was specifically designed for civilian use. 

Specifically false 

Now focus, little cornhole

Huey » 07 Sep 2022, 2:16 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Sep 2022, 2:16 pm

Meltdown Mary, calm down and present your case.  Against my better judgement I went ahead and agreed both of your CUT AND PASTES area factual.

This your time to put up or shut up.  Explain how your cut and pastes kick my ***.   I am waiting. You are not capable of doing so.

Now there's a 3rd, **** .

Catch the **** up.
 

Blackvegetable » 07 Sep 2022, 1:18 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Sep 2022, 1:18 pm

Early development work began in 1957. A project to create a small-calibre, high-velocity (SCHV) firearm was created. Eugene Stoner of Armalite was invited to scale down the AR-10 (7.62mm) design. Winchester was also invited to participate.[11][5]

Ibid.


Acknowledge the underlined facts.

 

Hey ****.  I did not miss this because you did not quote me or tag me.  Carry on meltdown.

Present you point that kicks my ***. In your own words. 

Blackvegetable » 07 Sep 2022, 2:18 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Sep 2022, 2:18 pm

Huey » 07 Sep 2022, 2:16 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Sep 2022, 2:16 pm

Meltdown Mary, calm down and present your case.  Against my better judgement I went ahead and agreed both of your CUT AND PASTES area factual.

This your time to put up or shut up.  Explain how your cut and pastes kick my ***.   I am waiting. You are not capable of doing so.

Now there's a 3rd, **** .

Catch the **** up.
 

 

I saw it.  And replied to it.

 

Blackvegetable » 07 Sep 2022, 2:18 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Sep 2022, 2:18 pm

Huey » 07 Sep 2022, 2:06 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Sep 2022, 2:06 pm

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The Armalite AR 15 was rebranded the M 16.  The AR 15 SPORTER was specifically designed for civilian use. 

Specifically false 

Now focus, little cornhole

 

Give me something to focus on.  Explain how  your citations have kicked my ***  And as you posted make sure you tag me or quote me.  That way I get a notification. 

Huey » 07 Sep 2022, 7:24 am » wrote: ↑

07 Sep 2022, 7:24 am

 

Error

Huey » 07 Sep 2022, 7:24 am » wrote: ↑

07 Sep 2022, 7:24 am

Blackvegetable » 06 Sep 2022, 1:43 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Sep 2022, 1:43 pm

Huey » 06 Sep 2022, 1:34 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Sep 2022, 1:34 pm

or:

Huh, a .22 firing at 3700 FPS designed in the 30s. Who deemed 1100 a muzzle velocity long held sufficient for civilian purposes?

You should have read the link I provided.  What else ya got?  This is fun and your argument is ignorant.  Sit down, shut the **** up, and don't challenge me on this again.

This is irrelevant. 

As noted before, the posted muzzle velocity of a .22 is 1070fps.

My guess is that it is the most common load.

Now, let's get back to the lesson.

The development of the cartridge that eventually became the .223 Remington (from which 5.56mm NATO would eventually be developed) would be intrinsically linked to the development of a new lightweight combat rifle. The cartridge and rifle were developed as one unit by Fairchild Industries, Remington Arms, and several engineers working toward a goal developed by U.S. Continental Army Command (CONARC). Early development work began in 1957.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5.56%C3%9745mm_NATO



do you understand and accept the underlined?

At your first balk, or extraneous yap, I'm done.


 

IF you are  going to give a lesson you first have to tell us what you are teaching.  I mean, if you going to design a new rifle platform that is lighter for less of a load for soldiers you of course need a lighter round.  DUH!  Your turn and no questions.  Show me how smart you are. 

My guess is that it is the most common load.

So your answer is NO ONE deemed it sufficient because their were faster rounds available and 22 rifles that could handle it.  

 

@Blackvegetable  ​​​​​​​

Huey » 07 Sep 2022, 2:20 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Sep 2022, 2:20 pm

Give me something to focus on.  Explain how  your citations have kicked my ***  And as you posted make sure you tag me or quote me.  That way I get a notification.

It's just one of many of your ****.

The facts to which you have stipulated are as follows


The AR-15 is not just a rifle, it is an Assault Weapon optimized for a specific purpose.

The weapon incorporates a round SPECIFICALLY developed to complement the function for which the weapon was designed.

The round in question is a .22 caliber, as per specifications.

The specifications include a muzzle velocity 3X greater than that of a standard .22 round.

When you buy an AR-15 or an AR-15 variant, you are buying a weapon DESIGNED for combat, and a particular tactical function.

The fact that it is semi auto doesn't change that, because that capability is specified...for obvious reasons.

You aren't buying a varmint gun, a "sporting rifle", or potato masher.

You are buying an Assault Weapon.

As I have consistently maintained....and EVERY citation confirms.


Now grab some SPF 500 before you leave Earth's atmosphere. 


 

Huey » 07 Sep 2022, 2:23 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Sep 2022, 2:23 pm

@Blackvegetable  

I mean, if you going to design a new rifle platform that is lighter for less of a load for soldiers you of course need a lighter round.

**** oblivious impervious idiot.

https://youtu.be/_YL7ALghfi8
 

Blackvegetable » 07 Sep 2022, 2:56 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Sep 2022, 2:56 pm

It's just one of many of your ****.

The facts to which you have stipulated are as follows

The AR-15 is not just a rifle, it is an Assault Weapon optimized for a specific purpose.

The weapon incorporates a round SPECIFICALLY developed to complement the function for which the weapon was designed.

The round in question is a .22 caliber, as per specifications.

The specifications include a muzzle velocity 3X greater than that of a standard .22 round.

When you buy an AR-15 or an AR-15 variant, you are buying a weapon DESIGNED for combat, and a particular tactical function.

The fact that it is semi auto doesn't change that, because that capability is specified...for obvious reasons.

You aren't buying a varmint gun, a "sporting rifle", or potato masher.

You are buying an Assault Weapon.

As I have consistently maintained....and EVERY citation confirms.

Now grab some SPF 500 before you leave Earth's atmosphere.

First and foremost, what kicked off this discussion is Biden's "5 times as fast" comment.  Not 3 times.

Second, all your citations refer to the Armalite Rifle AR 15, a select fire weapon.  

Third, while the .22 was the base the actual round WAS NOT a .22.  It eventually became the .223.

Fourth, your citations refer to a 1957 weapon.  Not modern semi auto sports rifles.

This reply way be broken up into two posts due to character count. 

The round in question is a .22 caliber, as per specifications.

The round in question is a .223, later to become the 5.56.

The specifications include a muzzle velocity 3X greater than that of a standard .22 round.

Not relevant to the conversation.  See above.  

 

More to come.
 
 

Huey » 08 Sep 2022, 8:51 am » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2022, 8:51 am

First and foremost, what kicked off this discussion is Biden's "5 times as fast" comment.  Not 3 times.

Second, all your citations refer to the Armalite Rifle AR 15, a select fire weapon.  

Third, while the .22 was the base the actual round WAS NOT a .22.  It eventually became the .223.

Fourth, your citations refer to a 1957 weapon.  Not modern semi auto sports rifles.

This reply way be broken up into two posts due to character count. 

The round in question is a .223, later to become the 5.56.

Not relevant to the conversation.  See above.  

More to come.

Don't bother.

The Argument is unassailable. 


 

Blackvegetable » 08 Sep 2022, 8:57 am » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2022, 8:57 am

Huey » 08 Sep 2022, 8:51 am » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2022, 8:51 am

First and foremost, what kicked off this discussion is Biden's "5 times as fast" comment.  Not 3 times.

Second, all your citations refer to the Armalite Rifle AR 15, a select fire weapon.  

Third, while the .22 was the base the actual round WAS NOT a .22.  It eventually became the .223.

Fourth, your citations refer to a 1957 weapon.  Not modern semi auto sports rifles.

This reply way be broken up into two posts due to character count. 

The round in question is a .223, later to become the 5.56.

Not relevant to the conversation.  See above.  

More to come.

Don't bother.

The Argument is unassailable. 


 

 

I will bother.  Your argument sucks.  Just wait for it.