Trifling debate

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7 Sep 2022 1:19 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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ConsRule » 07 Sep 2022, 4:17 pm » wrote: If you're asking would I adjust for inflation?  No. find places to cut.
If you aren't deficit spending, THERE IS NO LONG TERM INFLATION.
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ConsRule » 07 Sep 2022, 4:33 pm » wrote: ABSO-DAMN-LUTELY!!!!

Don't you think there are unnecessary employees in the federal government?  A list of 1,000 could probably be made inside a week.  In addition to the eliminated wages, you get a cut in benefits, insurances that are based on payroll totals, etc.  Consolidate offices after the head count reductions where practical. Get the procurement people to actually do their job and source EVERYTHING for better prices.  Private section businesses do it all the time...the government can as well.

Hell, our company is VERY profitable (30+% to the bottom line) and we still get beat up over expenses every month...inflation is not an excuse.
No government can't do it as well.
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LibDave » 07 Sep 2022, 4:41 pm » wrote: No government can't do it as well.
Sure they can.  What's stopping them (other than the liberal mindset)?
 
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ConsRule » 07 Sep 2022, 4:49 pm » wrote: Sure they can.  What's stopping them (other than the liberal mindset)?
Incentive.

Also, much of that spent is spent by the entitled.  This too is something entirely beyond the capabilities of government.  Ever been to the grocery store with your average Food Stamp recipient?
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How's keeping you cushy job as an incentive to cut actual spending?
 
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ConsRule » 07 Sep 2022, 4:35 pm » wrote: That's because you didn't carefully read what I posted.  I was talking in actual dollars spent, and clearly stated such.  You already had your answer if you can comprehend what you read.
There's an Adult way to put that.
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LibDave » 07 Sep 2022, 4:39 pm » wrote: If you aren't deficit spending, THERE IS NO LONG TERM INFLATION.
Groooooooooooaaaaaaaannnnn.....
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LibDave » 07 Sep 2022, 1:19 pm » wrote: Subjects and debate on here are far too trifling.  It digresses to continuous response streams of little more than name calling.

How about a substantive thread.  For example expenditures.

What are your priorities for government spending and cuts?  Do we need more or less government?

Defense
Entitlements (SS, Welfare, Food Stamps, etc.)
Roads
Education
IRS
NASA
etc.  List your favorite and least favorite.
Eat **** you **** retard. :)

I embarrassed that it took 3 pages before someone proved your point. You people are slipping.

You’re welcome.

**chuckle** 
 
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LibDave » 07 Sep 2022, 4:35 pm » wrote: I keep pretty good track of it.  Done so for 28 years.  I ran the numbers about a year ago and It was between 11 and 12%.  12% isn't all that good.  I invest in what I know.  And I'm pretty good nowadays.  I wish I knew what I know now in the early years.  But I did pretty well back then too, for a rookie wannabe.  All of my investments are self-directed for the most part though I do keep some in Mutuals (those I have researched their holdings).  Some options and commodites.  Long and short, though more long (matches my genitalia Image ). On rare occasion Futures.

I don't give out advice.  The markets are time based and any advice quickly needs adjustments.  For that you really have to study economics and invest in what you know.  Advice my gramma gave me and she was right.  Important to really understand the markets and various influences, especially understand the mathematics of risk (actuarial).  That takes time, attention, more time and intuition.  Futures especially are REALLY tough until you realize the markets are sort of rigged.  But it can actually be to your advantage due to grasshoppers and giants.
You're completely full of ****.

Just between the two of us....

 
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ConsRule » 07 Sep 2022, 4:55 pm » wrote: How's keeping you cushy job as an incentive to cut actual spending?
You can't fire government employees.  They are all unionized and the government negotiators are themselves former members (present members paid under the table) of the union.  I saw a guy take a dump on his bosses desk after sending out a blanket email to the entire department exclaiming he did drugs and f'd young boys.  Didn't get fired.
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LibDave » 07 Sep 2022, 4:51 pm » wrote: Incentive.

Also, much of that spent is spent by the entitled.  This too is something entirely beyond the capabilities of government.  Ever been to the grocery store with your average Food Stamp recipient?
Yup.

Paid 'em 50 cents on the dollar.
 
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Cedar » 07 Sep 2022, 4:57 pm » wrote: Eat **** you **** retard. Image

I embarrassed that it took 3 pages before someone proved your point. You people are slipping.

You’re welcome.

**chuckle**

Fadarecad, I trolt. So did cannapoina.
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Blackvegetable » 07 Sep 2022, 4:58 pm » wrote: You're completely full of ****.

Just between the two of us....
Quite substantive debate there BV.  lol.
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LibDave » 07 Sep 2022, 4:59 pm » wrote: You can't fire government employees.  They are all unionized and the government negotiators are themselves former members (present members paid under the table) of the union.  I saw a guy take a dump on his bosses desk after sending out a blanket email to the entire department exclaiming he did drugs and f'd young boys.  Didn't get fired.
The open a remote office in Antarctica and transfer their lazy asses there.  They'll quit in a week.
 
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ReverendAlSharpton » 07 Sep 2022, 4:59 pm » wrote: Yup.

Paid 'em 50 cents on the dollar.
lol.  I did once too.   I was buying store brand and she was getting lobster tail, prime beef and salmon exclaiming, "I can't spend them all anyway".

And yes it is 50 cents on the dollar, but they get you on the price of the weed too.  lol.
 
I take in and care for homeless people, drug addicts, and abused women.  You wouldn't believe what all I have seen.  And the government makes it harder not easier to help them.
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LibDave » 07 Sep 2022, 4:59 pm » wrote: You can't fire government employees.  They are all unionized and the government negotiators are themselves former members (present members paid under the table) of the union.  I saw a guy take a dump on his bosses desk after sending out a blanket email to the entire department exclaiming he did drugs and f'd young boys.  Didn't get fired.
 
Actually, according to the BLS only 37% are union. 
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ConsRule » 07 Sep 2022, 5:07 pm » wrote: Actually, according to the BLS only 37% are union.
37% of government workers?  Or all workers?
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Blackvegetable » 07 Sep 2022, 4:55 pm » wrote: There's an Adult way to put that.
Act like (and read like) an adult and you might get, what you consider, an adult response.

It was more adult than you deserved.
 
 
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LibDave » 07 Sep 2022, 5:09 pm » wrote: 37% of government workers?  Or all workers?
Government...compared to 7% in the private sector.
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LibDave » 07 Sep 2022, 5:03 pm » wrote: Quite substantive debate there BV.  lol.
You wanna break it down by long term returns on the asset classes you mentioned?
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