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It's **** amazing. I got in a silly argument about aircraft carriers with @Pastafarian  ...I was suggesting they were required for major land invasioms from the sea. 

This dude out of nowhere then just asserts there were no aircraft carriers present on d day. 

I'm like...wtf? And after a quick Google search I discover the allies had 3 carriers present...hms emperor, hms tracker, and hms pursuer. 

So clearly the dude just made up his story that there were no aircraft carriers...and why make that up? It's so easy to prove him wrong. 

But here's the amazing g thing...I showed him proof and just a simple wiki page of one of these carriers:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Emperor_(D98)

And the dude refuses to admit this is an aircraft carrier. Seriously.
Despite the **** table clearly stating that it carried 24 aircraft...pasta STILL refuses to admit mistake ..

HOW? Lol...and why is it always the lefty psychology that is like this?

Its just Pasta being Pasta! No reason to blame the entire Left!
Remember, you are in with some pretty BAD COMPANY!  
 

FOS » 08 Sep 2022, 1:55 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2022, 1:55 pm

 

Thanks for the homage, nitwit Nazi. 

https://history.stackexchange.com/quest ... -d-day#500“The only landing in Europe and Africa that got carrier support was the Torch landing in North Africa in late 1942. In that case, it was not possible to use land-based air support, since there weren't any bases there. All later European Theatre landings were within land-based air range (deliberately) and relied on it solely.Aircraft carriers were very valuable, being necessary for fighting enemy fleets, supporting landings, raiding, and other missions. At the time of D-Day, the Japanese still had a powerful fleet, and it attacked US landings about two weeks after the Normandy invasion. Moreover, with the island-hopping strategy, Pacific invasions were often not within support range of any Allied airfield.Moreover, Normandy would have been a difficult landing to support with carriers. Carriers need to have a lot of wind blowing down the deck for aircraft to take off or land, which means that they generally need a large clear maneuvering area. The English Channel, near Normandy, was too small for effective operations and crowded with landing craft. The carriers would have had to stay either in the North Sea, which was still dangerous, or the Atlantic, and the ground air bases would have been closer than the carriers.After the Allied breakout, the air bases in England were still fairly close to the action, closer than carriers could have operated, and the Allies set up lots of air bases in France and other liberated areas. The Allied offensive didn't get anywhere near the open areas of the North Sea, where carriers could usefully operate, until about a month before the end of the war.”


 
 

FOS » 08 Sep 2022, 1:55 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2022, 1:55 pm

It's **** amazing. I got in a silly argument about aircraft carriers with @Pastafarian  ...I was suggesting they were required for major land invasioms from the sea. 

This dude out of nowhere then just asserts there were no aircraft carriers present on d day. 

I'm like...wtf? And after a quick Google search I discover the allies had 3 carriers present...hms emperor, hms tracker, and hms pursuer. 

So clearly the dude just made up his story that there were no aircraft carriers...and why make that up? It's so easy to prove him wrong. 

But here's the amazing g thing...I showed him proof and just a simple wiki page of one of these carriers:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Emperor_(D98)

And the dude refuses to admit this is an aircraft carrier. Seriously.
Despite the **** table clearly stating that it carried 24 aircraft...pasta STILL refuses to admit mistake ..

HOW? Lol...and why is it always the lefty psychology that is like this?

Much of the allied airpower used in the invasion was for ground attack and for bombing. The aircraft used for these purposes weren't designed to operate from carriers. Also, the airfields of Southern England were only 25 minutes flying time to Normandy and the allies had so many ground based aircraft, carriers weren't needed.
 
 
 

nuckinfutz » 08 Sep 2022, 2:39 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2022, 2:39 pm

Its just Pasta being Pasta! No reason to blame the entire Left!
Remember, you are in with some pretty BAD COMPANY!

It’s Pasta educating a *** Nazi and his boyfriend. 
 

Pastafarian » 08 Sep 2022, 3:03 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2022, 3:03 pm

Much of the allied airpower used in the invasion was for ground attack and for bombing. The aircraft used for these purposes weren't designed to operate from carriers. Also, the airfields of Southern England were only 25 minutes flying time to Normandy and the allies had so many ground based aircraft, carriers weren't needed.

Yet they were used, Eisenhower. 

I really am fascinated. What is your malfunction? Just admit you were wrong ffs lol...there is no way to squirm out of this..
 

Most of the aerial activity on D-Day was done by engineless gliders that ferried soldiers behind the lines. The terrain in Normandy consists of hedgerows, difficult going for any sort of land vehicle.
Aircraft carriers were not a major part of the assault on D-Day, in any case.

Xavier_Onassis » 08 Sep 2022, 4:00 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2022, 4:00 pm

Most of the aerial activity on D-Day was done by engineless gliders that ferried soldiers behind the lines. The terrain in Normandy consists of hedgerows, difficult going for any sort of land vehicle.
Aircraft carriers were not a major part of the assault on D-Day, in any case. I have seen many films and documentaries about D-Day and aircraft carriers were not mentioned in any of them.
 

 

FOS » 08 Sep 2022, 3:17 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2022, 3:17 pm

Yet they were used, Eisenhower. 

I really am fascinated. What is your malfunction? Just admit you were wrong ffs lol...there is no way to squirm out of this..

they weren’t as useful as you made them out to be in your Hitler didn’t have aircraft carriers spiel unless they were to carry ground artillery. 

Im not wrong and you are a lying sack of ****. 

Let the word go forth to every city, town, village, hamlet and farmstead in this land that Fos the Nazi is indeed a lying sack of ****!

Pastafarian » 08 Sep 2022, 4:04 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2022, 4:04 pm

they weren’t as useful as you made them out to be in your Hitler didn’t have aircraft carriers spiel unless they were to carry ground artillery. 

Im not wrong and you are a lying sack of ****.

How the actual **** can you pretend to know what is useful? You just made up out of nowhere that they were not used...and then you could not even read words you posted your own **** self. And now...you can't even admit that you are acting insane...Forgive me but nobody is going to consider you an expert on aircraft carriers
 

FOS » 08 Sep 2022, 1:55 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2022, 1:55 pm

It's **** amazing. I got in a silly argument about aircraft carriers with @Pastafarian  ...I was suggesting they were required for major land invasioms from the sea. 

This dude out of nowhere then just asserts there were no aircraft carriers present on d day. 

I'm like...wtf? And after a quick Google search I discover the allies had 3 carriers present...hms emperor, hms tracker, and hms pursuer. 

So clearly the dude just made up his story that there were no aircraft carriers...and why make that up? It's so easy to prove him wrong. 

But here's the amazing g thing...I showed him proof and just a simple wiki page of one of these carriers:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Emperor_(D98)

And the dude refuses to admit this is an aircraft carrier. Seriously.
Despite the **** table clearly stating that it carried 24 aircraft...pasta STILL refuses to admit mistake ..

HOW? Lol...and why is it always the lefty psychology that is like this?

Prior to d day you had the wars in the pacific which involved carrier groups. Ignorance. 
 

Pastafarian » 08 Sep 2022, 3:03 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2022, 3:03 pm

Thanks for the homage, nitwit Nazi. 

https://history.stackexchange.com/quest ... -d-day#500“The only landing in Europe and Africa that got carrier support was the Torch landing in North Africa in late 1942. In that case, it was not possible to use land-based air support, since there weren't any bases there. All later European Theatre landings were within land-based air range (deliberately) and relied on it solely.Aircraft carriers were very valuable, being necessary for fighting Channel, near Normandy, was too small for effective operations and crowded with landing craft. The carriers would have had to stay either in the North Sea, which was still dangerous, or the Atlantic, and the ground air bases would have been closer than the carriers.After the Allied breakout, the air bases in England were still fairly close to the action, closer than carriers could have operated, and the Allies set up lots of air bases in France and other liberated areas. The Allied offensive didn't get anywhere near the open areas of the North Sea, where carriers could usefully operate, until about a month before the end of the war.”

well let's just say I did some independent research and proved this stupid site wrong. Maybe you shouldn't believe everything your read on some dumb history question and answer forum
 

Xavier_Onassis » 08 Sep 2022, 4:00 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2022, 4:00 pm

Most of the aerial activity on D-Day was done by engineless gliders that ferried soldiers behind the lines. The terrain in Normandy consists of hedgerows, difficult going for any sort of land vehicle.
Aircraft carriers were not a major part of the assault on D-Day, in any case.

were there aircraft carriers at Normandy or not? Why don't you understand what things are irrelevant? This is very common with you...

Xavier_Onassis » 08 Sep 2022, 4:00 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2022, 4:00 pm

Most of the aerial activity on D-Day was done by engineless gliders that ferried soldiers behind the lines. The terrain in Normandy consists of hedgerows, difficult going for any sort of land vehicle.
Aircraft carriers were not a major part of the assault on D-Day, in any case.

By the way..as well as saying irrelevant things you also can't seem to help being just wrong. There were about 800 gliders and 2300 airplanes. So not...it was not 'most'

FOS » 08 Sep 2022, 4:48 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2022, 4:48 pm

well let's just say I did some independent research and proved this stupid site wrong. Maybe you shouldn't believe everything your read on some dumb history question and answer forum

I did the research. You just spotted **** you could not back up. 

Hitler admired the British pre war and at the beginning of tge war but when Churchill did not back down from his demands for European territory he had no choice but to fight them. 

As for your stupid claim of Hitler did not want to conquer  the world bcuz he had no aircraft carriers. Ge had none in North Africa and did well in the beginning of the conflict and only Hitler only realized during tge Italian campaign how much he needed aircraft carriers. 

As for the Normandy invasion. No escort carriers were used for aircraft bcuz the aircraft could not take off from them in the Channel. 

Pastafarian » 08 Sep 2022, 5:06 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2022, 5:06 pm

I did the research. You just spotted **** you could not back up. 

Hitler admired the British pre war and at the beginning of tge war but when Churchill did not back down from his demands for European territory he had no choice but to fight them. 

As for your stupid claim of Hitler did not want to conquer  the world bcuz he had no aircraft carriers. Ge had none in North Africa and did well in the beginning of the conflict and only Hitler only realized during tge Italian campaign how much he needed aircraft carriers. 

As for the Normandy invasion. No escort carriers were used for aircraft bcuz the aircraft could not take off from them in the Channel.

You are still denying basic Wikipedia facts man?

What's the conspiracy? Why is Wikipedia pretending there were aircraft carriers in the Normandy invasion?

Why would they lie?
 

FOS » 08 Sep 2022, 1:55 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2022, 1:55 pm

HOW? Lol...and why is it always the lefty psychology that is like this?

You must have missed out on the whole election fraud thing where the Right wing claim the 2020 election was stolen without any hard numbers or proof.
 

Neo » 08 Sep 2022, 4:45 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2022, 4:45 pm

Prior to d day you had the wars in the pacific which involved carrier groups. Ignorance.

I never mentioned the Pacific. 

**** Von Suckadick made the claim that aircraft carriers were needed to invade the UK. 

I mentioned that there were no aircraft carriers used for aircraft on D-Day. 

So if by ignorance you mean his then you’re right on the money. 
 

FOS » 08 Sep 2022, 5:09 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2022, 5:09 pm

You are still denying basic Wikipedia facts man?

What's the conspiracy? Why is Wikipedia pretending there were aircraft carriers in the Normandy invasion?

Why would they lie?

Anyone can write on Wikipedia. It isn’t always correct. 

I found an historical source and posted it.