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Neo » 11 Sep 2022, 5:01 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Sep 2022, 5:01 pm

Killing one man, even a president, is a plausible conspiracy. Killing thousands in high def in an operation that would require the coordination and silence of thousands? Less plausible.

How many are silent about the federal reserve bank?

More than would be required to remain silent on 9-11 - your objection is overcome. 

Neo » 11 Sep 2022, 5:03 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Sep 2022, 5:03 pm

Not a steel clad building. 

Right?

And STILL stood - in spite of being loaded with TNT and ACME furniture.

Neo » 11 Sep 2022, 6:28 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Sep 2022, 6:28 pm

Absolutely. 
 
Then you still have to deal with the dozens of calls home to living witnesses that knew the doomed passengers intimately. They described a hijacking.

Crisis actors. All ****. ​​​​​​There was even a **** GAY HERO who valiantly intoned, "Let's roll" to the crew of heteros who followed his poop trail into action - and you bought it, EVEN THOUGH WHEN THE MOST surveilled building on earth was struck by the phantom jet that gay caballero was flying on, there were ZERO photos of that event. ZERO.

They've had 20 years to photoshop something - anything. But they don't have to. They can count on the gulled.     

Neo » 11 Sep 2022, 6:49 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Sep 2022, 6:49 pm

That belies a rudimentary understanding of building demolition.

No understanding required.

All buildings fall in their own footprints, no matter what caused the fall.

911 taught us that, if nothing else. 
 

clevelandsteamer » 12 Sep 2022, 11:16 am » wrote: ↑

12 Sep 2022, 11:16 am

Lunger,
You getting any closer to dying?

Get closer, and I will take you with me!          
 

Neo » 11 Sep 2022, 12:30 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Sep 2022, 12:30 pm

The building was hit by debris and a fire started. Columns were weakened leading to structural collapse. No weapon, no conspiracy, no controlled demolition. Building burned violently for hours before collapse. A raging fire would have neutralized or prematurely detonated any planned and planted explosives.

People don't seem to understand that when the fire is in the middle of a building the structural failure begins there and as the interior collapses it pulls the floor members in, which pulls the walls in, which would take on the same appearance as a controlled demolition.

As far as the towers are concerned, I saw the engineer on the tube the next day, that said the fires only had to distort the floor beams in order for them to fail. Each beam was bolted to the outside wall with 4-5/8" bolts which were designed to work sheer. But as the beams deflected, the bolts were increasingly in tension from the plate on the end no longer being square to the wall. So regardless of which beam deflected first, there wasn't enough support left for the floor, while the floor below was certainly not engineered to carry the weight of the floor above, and obviously its being an exoskeletel structure helped to contain the floors as they pancaked down one on top of the other.

I've even seen some that suggest that there were explosives orchestrated to go off along with the planes flying into the buildings! Like there would have been a need for the planes!
They see the air compressing from the collapse and blowing out dust and smoke, and in a few places lower down indicating the of beginning failure from the shocks from the collapse of floors well above, making little dust clouds in lower corners, as being bombs going off!

 
 

SJConspirator » 11 Sep 2022, 5:55 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Sep 2022, 5:55 pm

It would not take thousands.  A team of 5 to 10 skilled mossad operatives, working undercover as “elevator repairmen” could partition off portions of a building, blocking access as they wire it with explosives one floor per day…

Yeaaaa, like dat, like dat, and den after they set the explosives ......... hmmm ........... they went to the airport and got in some airplanes, yea like dat, like dat ............ and den flew the planes into the WTC..... yeaaaa, like dat, like dat, hmmmmm.......and at just the right angle to set the fire they wanted in building 7............. yea like dat, like dat..... all to hide the fact that they were going to blow building 7 up..........yeaaaa, simple as dat!
 

SJConspirator » 11 Sep 2022, 5:55 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Sep 2022, 5:55 pm

It would not take thousands.  A team of 5 to 10 skilled mossad operatives, working undercover as “elevator repairmen” could partition off portions of a building, blocking access as they wire it with explosives one floor per day…

Yeaaaa, like dat, like dat, and den after they set the explosives ......... hmmm ........... they went to the airport and got in some airplanes, yea like dat, like dat ............ and den flew the planes into the WTC..... yeaaaa, like dat, like dat, hmmmmm.......and at just the right angle to set the fire they wanted in building 7............. yea like dat, like dat..... all to hide the fact that they were going to blow building 7 up..........yeaaaa, simple as dat! The Israelis are out to get us! It's all about dem dirty Jews ain't it!
 
 
 

Jantje_Smit » 12 Sep 2022, 9:15 am » wrote: ↑

12 Sep 2022, 9:15 am

That's because there was no airplane, it was a cruise missile....
 

And all they had to do was hire about 80 liars to falsely claim they witnessed the plane hitting the Pentagon and scatter a bunch of plane debris around!

Steve Anderson: A few moments later, as I was looking down at my desk, the plane caught my eye. It didn't register at first. I thought to myself that I couldn't believe the pilot was flying so low. Then it dawned on me what was about to happen. I watched in horror as the plane flew at treetop level, banked slightly to the left, drug it's wing along the ground and slammed into the west wall of the Pentagon exploding into a giant orange fireball. Then black smoke. Then white smoke."

"she decided to return to her 14th-floor room from another part of the hotel. Once in her room, she heard a "loud roar" and looked out the window to see what was going on. "Suddenly I saw this plane right outside my window," Anlauf said during a telephone interview from her hotel room this morning. "You felt like you could touch it; it was that close. It was just incredible. "Then it shot straight across from where we are and flew right into the Pentagon. It was just this huge fireball that crashed into the wall (of the Pentagon). When it hit, the whole hotel shook.""
https://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTIC ... esses.html
 
 

freeman » 12 Sep 2022, 11:51 am » wrote: ↑

12 Sep 2022, 11:51 am

Yeaaaa, like dat, like dat, and den after they set the explosives ......... hmmm ........... they went to the airport and got in some airplanes, yea like dat, like dat ............ and den flew the planes into the WTC..... yeaaaa, like dat, like dat, hmmmmm.......and at just the right angle to set the fire they wanted in building 7............. yea like dat, like dat..... all to hide the fact that they were going to blow building 7 up..........yeaaaa, simple as dat! The Israelis are out to get us! It's all about dem dirty Jews ain't it!

I have always been interested who was flying them arssholes Saudis- out from florida..    and why? LOL

Xavier_Onassis » 11 Sep 2022, 1:01 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Sep 2022, 1:01 pm

"Marshall Law" went into reruns years ago.
Do you know the difference between Marshall, Martial and Marital?

Did you know that a white person who has sex with a black person is committing an act of bestiality? 

sootedupCyndi » 12 Sep 2022, 11:57 am » wrote: ↑

12 Sep 2022, 11:57 am

I have always been interested who was flying them arssholes Saudis- out from florida..    and why? LOL

If you're asking about the "where", a lot of people from all over the world come to Florida or other areas in the southern U.S., that have lots of sunny days with short to non-existent winter seasons, so they can get their license in less time with little weather hold up. Summer or winter.

 
 

Xavier_Onassis » 11 Sep 2022, 1:01 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Sep 2022, 1:01 pm

"Marshall Law" went into reruns years ago.
Do you know the difference between Marshall, Martial and Marital?

ha ha ha...  I do know a ton about marshall law.. lol
There used to be big discussions... would our military fire upon  American citizens.... if push came to shove...
Normally i would say no... but after the behavior displayed in Canada... I am NOT so sure... Course these days.. the *** probably would try shooting  folks down with a water pistol.   or pronouns.

Jantje_Smit » 12 Sep 2022, 9:15 am » wrote: ↑

12 Sep 2022, 9:15 am

Instead, the evidence points overwhelmingly to the conclusion that all three buildings were destroyed by controlled demolition.

Riiiight. The jets flown by Islamic terrorists - that consider the U.S. to be the Great Satan in the West - were just a sideshow provided for entertainment purposes.

 
 

freeman » 12 Sep 2022, 12:05 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Sep 2022, 12:05 pm

If you're asking about the "where", a lot of people from all over the world come to Florida or other areas in the southern U.S., that have lots of sunny days with short to non-existent winter seasons, so they can get their license in less time with little weather hold up. Summer or winter.

No.. when the sheet was coming down...  that day...
Some of them were having help getting a ride out.. as fast as possible,,, Wonder who they were?. Money was also moving in global markets... the entire thing was Fishy fishy,  
So you guys can argue demolition. There was something more fishy going on.  

SJConspirator » 11 Sep 2022, 4:08 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Sep 2022, 4:08 pm

thousands of skyscrapers have been engulfed in flames .  None of them collapsed like that before 9/11.

Here is one in Italy that burned for 3 days, never collapsed

Your point is as irrelevant as it is incorrect.
How many of them were burning with the fuel of a fully loaded jetliner?
How many of them were extremely lightweight constructed exoskeletal structures?

Regarding others, here's a junky old concrete building that burned and collapsed into its footprint. The first high rise built in Tehran.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf27GGZYT2s
 
Here's one in Sao Paulo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boCLAmst1Ig
Check YouTube for more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8AWtXoo8m4
 
 

sootedupCyndi » 11 Sep 2022, 11:53 am » wrote: ↑

11 Sep 2022, 11:53 am

years ago.. I was on MSLSD chat. There was this guy on there.. Over and over he said.. i will give anyone 100,000 dollars that can tell me what took down building number seven.

If  "never forget"  is the logic  . . . .  what about the Japanese  ?

The sister of my wife's mother was incinerated in Hiroshima !

Let the daffodils grow over the graves of the deceased and move on !
 

JinnMartini » 12 Sep 2022, 12:33 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Sep 2022, 12:33 pm

If  "never forget"  is the logic  . . . .  what about the Japanese  ?

The sister of my wife's mother was incinerated in Hiroshima !

Let the daffodils grow over the graves of the deceased and move on !

My dealings with them.. I have found those people to be the nicest in the world.
The most polite- sweet  people..  

I have also had dealings with the Chinese? The normal people... very kind.  I worked for them... Did you sit down and eat Cyndi? Please get something to eat? for fweeee
Yet my american boss would cut our heads off if we stole a  single shrimp!  

freeman » 12 Sep 2022, 12:10 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Sep 2022, 12:10 pm

Riiiight. The jets flown by Islamic terrorists - that consider the U.S. to be the Great Satan in the West - were just a sideshow provided for entertainment purposes.

no... american politicians were flying them out...to save their arsses.. you dont get what- I AM SAYING?

freeman » 12 Sep 2022, 12:30 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Sep 2022, 12:30 pm

Your point is as irrelevant as it is incorrect.
How many of them were burning with the fuel of a fully loaded jetliner?
How many of them were extremely lightweight constructed exoskeletal structures?

Regarding others, here's a junky old concrete building that burned and collapsed into its footprint. The first high rise built in Tehran.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf27GGZYT2s
 
Here's one in Sao Paulo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boCLAmst1Ig
Check YouTube for more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8AWtXoo8m4

did you not watch your own Video?  That building in Tehran tipped over sideways, that's not collapsing neatly into its own footprint