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sootedupCyndi » 12 Sep 2022, 12:43 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Sep 2022, 12:43 pm

My dealings with them.. I have found those people to be the nicest in the world.
The most polite- sweet  people..  

I have also had dealings with the Chinese? The normal people... very kind.  I worked for them... Did you sit down and eat Cyndi? Please get something to eat? for fweeee
Yet my american boss would cut our heads off if we stole a  single shrimp!

It looks like they're easing the restrictions for foreign tourists to visit Japan !

If that is true  . . .  after Italy we'll be back in Japan very fast !

Coming week I'll be contacting the Japanese embassy for updates !

Our Italian travel is all booked and can't be turned back or canceled !

But our next Japanese travel is just in the making !

sootedupCyndi » 12 Sep 2022, 12:29 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Sep 2022, 12:29 pm

No.. when the sheet was coming down...  that day...
Some of them were having help getting a ride out.. as fast as possible,,, Wonder who they were?. Money was also moving in global markets... the entire thing was Fishy fishy,  
So you guys can argue demolition. There was something more fishy going on.

Yes I think you mean the Saudi families that were swiftly spirited out of the country. During our Middle East misadventures, Saudi Arabia allowed our air traffic while being more against terrorism than most Islamic countries. And since Saudi Arabia certainly hadn't been fingered at that time, it at least offered an excuse for our gov to move prominent Saudi families out before vigilantes got 'em - even just for being Muslims.

If we had folks in Saudi Arabia and a building got blown up with a few thousand Saudi casualties, and folks in the street were chanting that Christians were to blame, would we appreciate it if the Saudi Government helped our citizens get out of the country?

Saudis see terrorism (except domestic of course since they execute Christian converts, adulterers and homos) as working against their takeover. The Saudis are mostly in the long game, reasonably believing Islam will prevail by immigrating and populating. All Muslim sects inbreed quite prolifically.

I don't think there's much that's conclusive either way on the markets prior to 9-11, and after the incident is related to the event. After the event short sellers mainly got run down in a massive and rapid short-squeeze, I think it was day 3 when it was announced that it wasn't unpatriotic to short-sell stocks after all. Prior to that a one-sided market consisted of "patriotic" buyers jumping in and then having to jump out, steadily taking the market lower. While shorts orders could only be filled on upticks.
 

JinnMartini » 12 Sep 2022, 1:04 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Sep 2022, 1:04 pm

It looks like they're easing the restrictions for foreign tourists to visit Japan !

If that is true  . . .  after Italy we'll be back in Japan very fast !

Coming week I'll be contacting the Japanese embassy for updates !

What about your two dogs? i know they miss you?

freeman » 12 Sep 2022, 11:35 am » wrote: ↑

12 Sep 2022, 11:35 am

People don't seem to understand that when the fire is in the middle of a building the structural failure begins there and as the interior collapses it pulls the floor members in, which pulls the walls in, which would take on the same appearance as a controlled demolition.

As far as the towers are concerned, I saw the engineer on the tube the next day, that said the fires only had to distort the floor beams in order for them to fail. Each beam was bolted to the outside wall with 4-5/8" bolts which were designed to work sheer. But as the beams deflected, the bolts were increasingly in tension from the plate on the end no longer being square to the wall. So regardless of which beam deflected first, there wasn't enough support left for the floor, while the floor below was certainly not engineered to carry the weight of the floor above, and obviously its being an exoskeletel structure helped to contain the floors as they pancaked down one on top of the other.

I've even seen some that suggest that there were explosives orchestrated to go off along with the planes flying into the buildings! Like there would have been a need for the planes!
They see the air compressing from the collapse and blowing out dust and smoke, and in a few places lower down indicating the of beginning failure from the shocks from the collapse of floors well above, making little dust clouds in lower corners, as being bombs going off!

Without a significant lateral force thousands of tons of potential energy will fall as gravity directs. Controlled demolitions use this to bring buildings down inside their footprints. I haven't seen a compelling conspiracy theory on 911 that goes beyond sheltering Saudi after the fact. 
 

Neo » 12 Sep 2022, 1:09 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Sep 2022, 1:09 pm

Without a significant lateral force thousands of tons of potential energy will fall as gravity directs. Controlled demolitions use this to bring buildings down inside their footprints. I haven't seen a compelling conspiracy theory on 911 that goes beyond sheltering Saudi after the fact.

yeh there is nothing fishy about 3 buildings collapsing from 2 plane crash impacts

SJConspirator » 12 Sep 2022, 1:18 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Sep 2022, 1:18 pm

yeh there is nothing fishy about 3 buildings collapsing from 2 plane crash impacts

Nice so see you finally seeing the light.
Nothing at all fishy since the 3rd building was the result of fire not impact.
Like these other buildings:
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clevelandsteamer » 12 Sep 2022, 12:28 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Sep 2022, 12:28 pm

I will strike a match, Lunger.

Why do you want to die in Cleveland?

 
 

SJConspirator » 12 Sep 2022, 1:18 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Sep 2022, 1:18 pm

yeh there is nothing fishy about 3 buildings collapsing from 2 plane crash impacts

All collapsed due to fires raging for long periods in their interiors. Wt7 is interesting but flaming debris did impact the building and firefighters were fighting the blaze for hours before they were pulled out. 

Neo » 12 Sep 2022, 1:42 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Sep 2022, 1:42 pm

All collapsed due to fires raging for long periods in their interiors. Wt7 is interesting but flaming debris did impact the building and firefighters were fighting the blaze for hours before they were pulled out.

And the earlier collapsing interior parts structurally pull in the less damaged exterior parts.
In the case of the WTC, they just pancaked straightdown within the exoskeletel outer structure. As you alluded to earlier, talk about the force of gravity!
 

Neo » 12 Sep 2022, 1:42 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Sep 2022, 1:42 pm

All collapsed due to fires raging for long periods in their interiors. Wt7 is interesting but flaming debris did impact the building and firefighters were fighting the blaze for hours before they were pulled out.

And it must have been quite a feat to find, let alone hire, such large volume of liars to make the false claim that they saw a plane hit the Pentagon!
https://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTIC ... esses.html

I think we got it pretty well covered, don't you Neo?

freeman » 12 Sep 2022, 2:12 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Sep 2022, 2:12 pm

And it must have been quite a feat to find, let alone hire, such large volume of liars to make the false claim that they saw a plane hit the Pentagon!
https://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTIC ... esses.html

I think we got it pretty well covered, don't you Neo?

The missile that hit the pentagon had to have been carrying hundreds of pounds of fake aircraft wreckage. Or perhaps it was already all over the lawn before the missile strike?  

 
 
 

Neo » 12 Sep 2022, 3:25 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Sep 2022, 3:25 pm

The missile that hit the pentagon had to have been carrying hundreds of pounds of fake aircraft wreckage. Or perhaps it was already all over the lawn before the missile strike?  

 
 

Exactly! Probably the same crew that wired the WTC with explosives in advance, that only flew the planes into the buildings to fool people into believing the planes had something to do with it!
Makes perfect sense!

Cannonpointer » 12 Sep 2022, 11:11 am » wrote: ↑

12 Sep 2022, 11:11 am

Google, "Iraq war."

Seems like there would be a cheaper, simpler way than to intentionally blow up the nation's most expensive city block.
I'd buy the letting the hijackers in theory first. Then let **** happen...

Back to what I was saying before: People keep saying the buildings had to have been blown up.
One example is a mere "house fire" in Italy (by comparison). I am skeptical about that crap.
The towers' construction was their downfall. Heat and gravity.

I am on the side of this kind of thinking:
https://youtu.be/vzInIjD6nKw

SJConspirator » 11 Sep 2022, 8:38 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Sep 2022, 8:38 pm

ah, so only jet fuel burns hot enough to melt steel.  That explains why the internal combustion engines are melting airplanes and they fall from the sky shortly after takeoff

Project all you want. I didn't say that. You did.
Your weird clinging to this doesn't convince.

All it took was one inside "layer" to break loose and overload the next already compromised "layer".
Those floors then blew out all the air between the following floors allowing people to believe explosives were going off in rapid and curiously timed fashion.

sootedupCyndi » 11 Sep 2022, 11:53 am » wrote: ↑

11 Sep 2022, 11:53 am

years ago.. I was on MSLSD chat. There was this guy on there.. Over and over he said.. i will give anyone 100,000 dollars that can tell me what took down building number seven.

It doesn't matter what anybody would tell assholes like that guy, or a ridiculous conspiracy **** like you, what brought down building seven.  Your answer to their answer will always be, "No, the ****** did it."

But OK...in simple terms for simpleminded conjob conspiracy headcases...here's why building seven fell down.  IT WAS TOO CLOSE TO BUILDING ONE WHEN IT FELL DOWN.

Got that?  Good.  Go home and work on your baking skills.  And take your **** homeopathic remedies for confusion, eh?


 

Cucurbitophobia » 12 Sep 2022, 4:05 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Sep 2022, 4:05 pm

planted to make it appear like it was an airplane. The same wreckage was recovered from Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 in 2014.
The US Government has a warehouse full of parts to make it look like any scenario they want.

Get thee to the Haldol bottle.
 

IkeBana » 12 Sep 2022, 4:06 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Sep 2022, 4:06 pm

It doesn't matter what anybody would tell assholes like that guy, or a ridiculous conspiracy **** like you, what brought down building seven.  Your answer to their answer will always be, "No, the ****** did it."

But OK...in simple terms for simpleminded conjob conspiracy headcases...here's why building seven fell down.  IT WAS TOO CLOSE TO BUILDING ONE WHEN IT FELL DOWN.

Got that?  Good.  Go home and work on your baking skills.  And take your **** homeopathic remedies for confusion, eh?

kind of funny..  it was kept pretty quiet. lol 
To late for my baking skills? you hungry?  

IkeBana » 12 Sep 2022, 4:07 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Sep 2022, 4:07 pm

Get thee to the Haldol bottle.

you? run for the Midol bottle.

Cucurbitophobia » 12 Sep 2022, 4:05 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Sep 2022, 4:05 pm

planted to make it appear like it was an airplane. The same wreckage was recovered from Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 in 2014.
The US Government has a warehouse full of parts to make it look like any scenario they want.

Pretty quick ****, there were cameras on the ground minutes after the "crash". 
 
Occams razor. Simplist solution is usually correct. A dozen angry muslims crashed some planes vs a conspiracy with a cast of hundreds or thousands.   

DeezerShoove » 12 Sep 2022, 3:41 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Sep 2022, 3:41 pm

Seems like there would be a cheaper, simpler way than to intentionally blow up the nation's most expensive city block.
I'd buy the letting the hijackers in theory first. Then let **** happen...

Back to what I was saying before: People keep saying the buildings had to have been blown up.
One example is a mere "house fire" in Italy (by comparison). I am skeptical about that crap.
The towers' construction was their downfall. Heat and gravity.

I am on the side of this kind of thinking:
https://youtu.be/vzInIjD6nKw

Well, we're gonna have to agree to disagree. 

Many a many a many a time, we've posted the evidence against the narrative you side with. Of course, many a many a many a time, the evidence for your narrative and against mine has also been posted. I suspect we are both dug in, and nether can prove his case to himself, much less to the other.