Will Zionism win?

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By Monderegal
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freeman » 29 Sep 2022, 8:25 am » wrote: Sorry, my mistake.
Matthew 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
One can only wonder how pigs could be provoked to attack people because someone cast pearls before them.
What sort of holy thing would anyone conceivably give to dogs? And why?

 
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Skans » 30 Sep 2022, 8:09 am » wrote: I think Israel should Nuke Syria, Iran, and Yemen. Let's see what happens. :)  
 
you are insane as those you want eliminated.
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Nuke America.
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...nuke monetary ignorance and the bidumptarded republicrat puppet $how...and moxie...   
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omh » 01 Oct 2022, 6:19 am » wrote: you are insane as those you want eliminated.
...remember the republican 12th commandment: 'Thou shalt not speak ill of a fellow puppet Trump cacksucker' ...[and monetary ignoramus] 
 
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peepee » 01 Oct 2022, 10:08 am » wrote: ...remember the republican 12th commandment: 'Thou shalt not speak ill of a fellow puppet Trump cacksucker' ...[and monetary ignoramus] 
 
ha ha ha ha ha what separates demand from command? whose in charge and those sacrificing their time to make reality happen as intellectually designed by manifested doubt through vernacular tribalism traditionally all anyone needs to know to fit into role playing a reality cradle to grave history has developed to current events of the last 5 generations left evolving forward each great great grandchild delivered so far.
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FOS » 29 Sep 2022, 10:51 am » wrote: "We can trace the fate of Jewry from the earliest of times. It is not necessary that everything in the bible be true word for word, but on the whole it at least gives an impression of the history of the Jewry as thr Jews wrote it themselves, and there we can see that the Jew writes this work quite innocuously. It does not seem outrageous to him when he describes how, by cunning and deciet, he penetrated and contaminated race after race, was always expelled, and, without being offended, sought after another. How he pimped and haggle when it came to his ideals, ready to sacrifice even his family"

 [Adolf hitler, 'why are we antisemites?']
Didn’t Hitler sacrifice his family for his ideals? You bet he did. 


 
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Monderegal » 30 Sep 2022, 1:28 pm » wrote: All I know is from what I read in the Bible. The Jewish people were slaves in Egypt but I don't know when that happened. That was probably before recorded history. Obviously, there has to be some ancient history around that but the bible also says that Canaan was given to the Jews by Yahwah (a God that Jews are not allowed to speak by name). Therefore, the biblical account of this history is probably the most widely read given the readership of the Bible which is the best selling book worldwide with the Koran after that.
Lots of stuff in the Bible is not historically accurate, IMHO.  Genetics don't lie. Althoug, @FOS  may have some support for for what he says.  Ancient Egyptian nobility were genetically related to the ancient peoples of the Levant. As for ordinary people, I don't think that can be determined because they weren't typically mummified.   https://www.iflscience.com/genetic-stud ... ians-41911
 
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All this quote proves is that some Jews are crazy.
There are crazy people of ever ethnic and religious definition.

 
 
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Skans » 03 Oct 2022, 8:46 am » wrote: Lots of stuff in the Bible is not historically accurate, IMHO.  Genetics don't lie. Althoug, @FOS  may have some support for for what he says.  Ancient Egyptian nobility were genetically related to the ancient peoples of the Levant. As for ordinary people, I don't think that can be determined because they weren't typically mummified.   https://www.iflscience.com/genetic-stud ... ians-41911
theres a huge number of different bits of circumstantial evidence for my 'theory'. the more you learn about it the more obvious it is.

akhenaten is in fact the first monotheist in known history. no prior monotheist is known.

moses was an egyptian surname name...meaning child from (ra moses, toth moses, etc)

jews simply act egyptian culturally imo, and do NOT act like semites.

akhenaten wrote poem called the 'hymn to the great aten' which people have noted is extremely similar to psalm 104


the death of akhenaten happened to coincide with a massive explosion of a volcano in around crete, the results of which would have caused events similar to the plagues of egypt
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Skans » 03 Oct 2022, 8:46 am » wrote: Lots of stuff in the Bible is not historically accurate, IMHO.  Genetics don't lie. Althoug, @FOS  may have some support for for what he says.  Ancient Egyptian nobility were genetically related to the ancient peoples of the Levant. As for ordinary people, I don't think that can be determined because they weren't typically mummified.   https://www.iflscience.com/genetic-stud ... ians-41911
Also...we do know for a fact that there was a civil war following the death of akhenaten...and there were natural events similar to the biblical plagues because of the eruption of the nearby volcano. Most Egyptians felt this meant thr gods were angry at them for worshipping Aten. 

We know the followers of aten wwre exiled from egypt. Where did they go?

Well...obviiusly the easiest expanation is the went to canaan and conquered the people there
 
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FOS » 03 Oct 2022, 10:54 am » wrote: theres a huge number of different bits of circumstantial evidence for my 'theory'. the more you learn about it the more obvious it is.

akhenaten is in fact the first monotheist in known history. no prior monotheist is known.

moses was an egyptian surname name...meaning child from (ra moses, toth moses, etc)

jews simply act egyptian culturally imo, and do NOT act like semites.

akhenaten wrote poem called the 'hymn to the great aten' which people have noted is extremely similar to psalm 104

the death of akhenaten happened to coincide with a massive explosion of a volcano in around crete, the results of which would have caused events similar to the plagues of egypt
The one problem I have with your analysis is that modern Egyptian DNA has a lot of sub-saharan DNA admixture and.  This was not the case in ancient Egypt, apparently - at least based on what I've read.  So, trying to draw inferences related to how modern Egyptians and modern Jews act culturally  - this seems to be a bit of a stretch.  Then again, I've never really had any opportunity to compare the two groups.  Geographically speaking, the ancient area of Lower Egypt wouldn't be that far from where the Levant was, so it really was all part of the same area.
 
 
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Skans » 03 Oct 2022, 11:34 am » wrote: The one problem I have with your analysis is that modern Egyptian DNA has a lot of sub-saharan DNA admixture and.  This was not the case in ancient Egypt, apparently - at least based on what I've read.  So, trying to draw inferences related to how modern Egyptians and modern Jews act culturally  - this seems to be a bit of a stretch.  Then again, I've never really had any opportunity to compare the two groups.  Geographically speaking, the ancient area of Lower Egypt wouldn't be that far from where the Levant was, so it really was all part of the same area.
Naturally I am not speaking of modern Egypt. I am speaking of ancient Egypt. Whatever egyptians are today is quite irrelevant to my analysis. sub saharan DNA began to arrive in egypt during the roman period. throughout history and even today jews show remarkable similarity to the people of ancient egypt...

what jews are NOTHING like culturally are the polytheistic uguritic people who lived in that region prior to the exodus.it is absurd to call jews semites because we know the jews were not canaanites. Indeed jews hated canaanites. But sure jews after the exodus spoke canaanite language...just like jews in the modern usa will speak English.

I imagine the reason jews imposed a death penalty for saying the name of God (which is a very ancient Egyptian thing to do)...is because they secretly knew that their God was Aten. It was not El, it was not yaweh, it was not baal. Etc. But jews could not openly oppress the canaanites as open egyptians.Egyptians.. they had to conceal their identity...just as I believe they do in the west today
 
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Skans » 03 Oct 2022, 11:34 am » wrote: The one problem I have with your analysis is that modern Egyptian DNA has a lot of sub-saharan DNA admixture and.  This was not the case in ancient Egypt, apparently - at least based on what I've read.  So, trying to draw inferences related to how modern Egyptians and modern Jews act culturally  - this seems to be a bit of a stretch.  Then again, I've never really had any opportunity to compare the two groups.  Geographically speaking, the ancient area of Lower Egypt wouldn't be that far from where the Levant was, so it really was all part of the same area.

if you study ancient history you get an idea of how long it takes for civilizations to develop and acquire a high culture.

the semitic people in 1800 BC were very primitive. they never wrote anything. they had no sort of high culture.

there are only 3 people who could have written the old testament imo in that era: educated people from babylon, educated aryans, and educated egyptians. Nobody else. 
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FOS » 03 Oct 2022, 12:17 pm » wrote: if you study ancient history you get an idea of how long it takes for civilizations to develop and acquire a high culture.

the semitic people in 1800 BC were very primitive. they never wrote anything. they had no sort of high culture.

there are only 3 people who could have written the old testament imo in that era: educated people from babylon, educated aryans, and educated egyptians. Nobody else.
The Phoenicians were not very primitive.  They were accomplished sea-faring people and created a structured Phoenician alphabet in the time frame you speak of.  I believe that Hebrew, among other writing systems later came from the Phoenician alphabet. Babylonians did also have a written language that may have been about twice as old.  Egyptians were still using hieroglyphs at the time.

The real question is when was the Old Testament written?  And, was it created at the time it was written, or is it made up of stories and information handed down to the writers? Also, we are assuming that we have possession of all ancient texts, but there could be other even more ancient written version of the Old Testament that we haven't found or simply haven't survived.
 
 
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Skans » 03 Oct 2022, 2:48 pm » wrote: The Phoenicians were not very primitive.  They were accomplished sea-faring people and created a structured Phoenician alphabet in the time frame you speak of.  I believe that Hebrew, among other writing systems later came from the Phoenician alphabet. Babylonians did also have a written language that may have been about twice as old.  Egyptians were still using hieroglyphs at the time.

The real question is when was the Old Testament written?  And, was it created at the time it was written, or is it made up of stories and information handed down to the writers? Also, we are assuming that we have possession of all ancient texts, but there could be other even more ancient written version of the Old Testament that we haven't found or simply haven't survived.
incorrect. the phoenicians were irrelevant and had no literature etc. until about 300 years after the time i am speaking of

i do not think jews were babylonian.

Heiroglyphs were a very sophisticated form of written language. the reason jews did not continue using them, of course, is because they werent living in egypt anymore

it actually does not matter when the old testament was written down, because it refers to events around 1400 BC. the very IDEA of recording history was foreign to the native semitic people. They never did such a thing. among various primitive people such as the 1400BC phoenicians you might see some hint of their history recorded in mythology...but something like the old testament which speaks of specific people and specific dates etc was very much an egyptian thing to do. semites in that era never would have done that or even bothered to remember it. Thus it was easy for egyptian followers of aten to impose historical revisionism upon them.

 
 
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Xavier_Onassis » 03 Oct 2022, 10:40 am » wrote: All this quote proves is that some Jews are crazy.
There are crazy people of ever ethnic and religious definition.

 
 
political persuasion also.
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Xavier_Onassis » 29 Sep 2022, 9:26 am » wrote: The word is ISLAM, silly turkey.
I prefer the terms Muhammadans and Muhammadanism in certain contexts (like the post to you), because it is infinitely more descriptive of their belief system.
But enough of the pearls and on to the politics.
There is little chance that Palestinians
As a vaccine jabbed it would seem you're likely no stranger to falling hopelessly prey to being indoctrinated through propaganda and brainwashing (unless you were compelled to get the jab to keep your job) - in other words, drinking the Kool-Aid.
As Walid Shoebat once put it:  "One night I went to bed a Jordanian, and the next morning I woke up as a Palestinian."
Palestine and so-called Palestinian is a primarily 20th century Godless commie Leftist media and Muhammadan propaganda invention.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=palestine+inv ... a=j&ia=web

There are only two groups in conflict in Israel:
Israeli Muslims
VS
Israeli Jews, Christians and other non-Muslim Arabs.


Virtually all of the latter of which are in favor of continuing the Jewish state which protects them, because they know that the alternative is winding up like all of the rest of the Middle East Muslim-ruled states. That your mind is obviously owned by Satan is why you have difficulty seeing that, even though the reasonableness is unimpeachable.

Same two groups in conflict (that is, under attack by Muslims) over the last 1400 years.
Muslims
VS
non-Muslims
will ever expel the Jews from Israel.
There are a sizeable number of Christian Palestinians.
So appear to be a typical simpleton Right Wing Nut Job.
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freeman » 04 Oct 2022, 8:05 am » wrote: That your mind is obviously owned by Satan is why you have difficulty seeing that, even though the reasonableness is unimpeachable.
...this ^^^^ from someone whose mind is owned by some 'biblical' ooga booga magical sky wizard....  Image   Image   Image  

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