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FOS » 11 Oct 2022, 12:25 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2022, 12:25 pm

He's a jew who is trying to be a swede.

He is also a narcissist. This is what those retards do. They hate to look stupid, so they try use these word salads in attempt to sound intelligent. 

 

FOS » 11 Oct 2022, 12:24 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2022, 12:24 pm

perhaps the point is that there is a rational aspect to irrational instinct?

Would it be rational for the *** to starve because it cannot .are a choice?

I mean...perhaps so...because perhaps there is no rational reason to prefer survival over death...that too is merely instinct.

If anything I would suggest this thought experiment is meant to invite a person to stop thinking of life as a purely mathematical abstraction

If survival is an instinct, then assuming survival is the better of two choices, it is rational. But as instinct it isn't the product of the individual's reason.

The "practical" application is apparently electronics - where the issue is the time spent trying to make the choice. 

FOS » 11 Oct 2022, 12:24 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2022, 12:24 pm

perhaps the point is that there is a rational aspect to irrational instinct?

Would it be rational for the *** to starve because it cannot .are a choice?

I mean...perhaps so...because perhaps there is no rational reason to prefer survival over death...that too is merely instinct.

If anything I would suggest this thought experiment is meant to invite a person to stop thinking of life as a purely mathematical abstraction

Dude, why are you even entertaining his ****? He will never know anything. Ever. 

Blackvegetable » 11 Oct 2022, 12:31 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2022, 12:31 pm

If survival is an instinct, then assuming survival is the better of two choices, it is rational. But as instinct it isn't the product of the individual's reason.

The "practical" application is apparently electronics - where the issue is the time spent trying to make the choice.

Shut the **** up. You can't even define the word "bias" you stupid assclown. 

Blackvegetable » 11 Oct 2022, 12:31 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2022, 12:31 pm

If survival is an instinct, then assuming survival is the better of two choices, it is rational. But as instinct it isn't the product of the individual's reason.

The "practical" application is apparently electronics - where the issue is the time spent trying to make the choice.

to translate this decision making into rational thought you would need to label survival as an axiom, not merely an instinct. 

And yet at the very same time the opposite is true. Because instinct is a product of evolution...and survival is an axiom thanks to survival of the fittest.

Perhaps instinct is often superior to thinking. It may have less intelligence, but it has greater wisdom.

Food for thought.. thus thought experiment.

Your desire to insult the Greeks was a random and amusing addition to the conversation.. I actually found that even more interesting thsn the OP. 

Tell me...are your anti Aegean sentiments rational? Or is it instinct? 
 

Vegas » 11 Oct 2022, 12:34 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2022, 12:34 pm

Dude, why are you even entertaining his ****? He will never know anything. Ever.

I want to dig a bit into some jew psychology I detected

FOS » 11 Oct 2022, 12:38 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2022, 12:38 pm

I want to dig a bit into some jew psychology I detected

His psychology is 'narcissism.' They are all the same. High ego, low IQ. 

Vegas » 11 Oct 2022, 12:40 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2022, 12:40 pm

His psychology is 'narcissism.' They are all the same. High ego, low IQ.

Jews have their own flavor of narcissism

FOS » 11 Oct 2022, 12:37 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2022, 12:37 pm

to translate this decision making into rational thought you would need to label survival as an axiom, not merely an instinct. 

And yet at the very same time the opposite is true. Because instinct is a product of evolution...and survival is an axiom thanks to survival of the fittest.

Perhaps instinct is often superior to thinking. It may have less intelligence, but it has greater wisdom.

Food for thought.. thus thought experiment.

Your desire to insult the Greeks was a random and amusing addition to the conversation.. I actually found that even more interesting thsn the OP. 

Tell me...are your anti Aegean sentiments rational? Or is it instinct?

I don't see there's anything "anti" about it...

These people are objectively objectionable.

Blackvegetable » 11 Oct 2022, 12:49 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2022, 12:49 pm

I don't see there's anything "anti" about it...

These people are objectively objectionable.

objectively, you say?

well let's say you were an ***, and there was a pistol in your hand loaded with a single bullet. 

And there were 2 Greeks equally distant from you. 

Which do you shoot?

FOS » 11 Oct 2022, 12:52 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2022, 12:52 pm

objectively, you say?

well let's say you were an ***, and there was a pistol in your hand loaded with a single bullet. 

And there were 2 Greeks equally distant from you. 

Which do you shoot?

I'm assuming the Greeks are engaged in some heinous act of sodomy, in which case I might be able to get both with the single bullet.

Blackvegetable » 11 Oct 2022, 12:54 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2022, 12:54 pm

I'm assuming the Greeks are engaged in some heinous act of sodomy, in which case I might be able to get both with the single bullet.

lo! The jew interprets reality as benefits his desire

FOS » 11 Oct 2022, 1:09 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2022, 1:09 pm

lo! The jew interprets reality as benefits his desire

How much separation do you believe 2 "male" Aegean Goat **** can maintain?

Vegas » 11 Oct 2022, 11:01 am » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2022, 11:01 am

I enjoy thought experiments. Some are quite intriguing. I found this one recently, though it dates back to antiquity. I find it relevant because logic should play a huge part of our decisions, especially when it comes to debating politics. My theory to this thought experiment is below in bold. 

@omh  , I know that you are going to go nuts with this, but try to scale it back some. @Blackvegetable  , you are too stupid. Don't even try it. And **** your questions/demands. 

My thought is that its' biological impulses will trump rational actions. Mother nature designs us to survive first. Therefore, eventually the donkey will eat the bale of hay that its biological impulses drive it to. 

The problem is poorly illustrated with an *** - there are countless numbers of variables in real life that would cause the *** to go one way or the other.

However, in logic circuits, this becomes more of a true paradox. Using 1975 technology and Basic computer programming, this would certainly cause the computer to loop and then crash, requiring it to be rebooted.  But, computers don't have any concept of self-preservation.
 

Blackvegetable » 11 Oct 2022, 11:50 am » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2022, 11:50 am

What did you do?

****, that's easy.  Kill the *** and then eat it.
 

Skans » 11 Oct 2022, 1:31 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2022, 1:31 pm

The problem is poorly illustrated with an *** - there are countless numbers of variables in real life that would cause the *** to go one way or the other.

However, in logic circuits, this becomes more of a true paradox. Using 1975 technology and Basic computer programming, this would certainly cause the computer to loop and then crash, requiring it to be rebooted.  But, computers don't have any concept of self-preservation.

Yes, but it's a thought experiment. What would life be like if both sides used the same logic toward every topic or policy decision, while still trying to maintain their own political identity? Would there be no political identities at all? 

FOS » 11 Oct 2022, 12:37 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2022, 12:37 pm

Your desire to insult the Greeks was a random and amusing addition to the conversation.. I actually found that even more interesting thsn the OP. 

Tell me...are your anti Aegean sentiments rational? Or is it instinct?

It was directed at me, since I am Greek. 
 

Vegas » 11 Oct 2022, 1:35 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2022, 1:35 pm

Yes, but it's a thought experiment. What would life be like if both sides used the same logic toward every topic or policy decision, while still trying to maintain their own political identity? Would there be no political identities at all?

It's supposed to be a paradox, and yes, I can see the paradoxical nature of the scenario.  That's why I interjected pure logic into it.  ****, before 2000, Damn computers crashed all the freaking time due to logical paradoxes. This was common place, and it would just end up in a continuous loop.  That is the expanple placed before us, with all elements of random chance taken out of it. 

I'd say that a robotic Donkey built in 1980 presented with this decision would do exactly as the Greek philosopher predicted - become paralyzed, and die.

Skans » 11 Oct 2022, 1:41 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2022, 1:41 pm

It's supposed to be a paradox, and yes, I can see the paradoxical nature of the scenario.  That's why I interjected pure logic into it.  ****, before 2000, Damn computers crashed all the freaking time due to logical paradoxes. This was common place, and it would just end up in a continuous loop.  That is the expanple placed before us, with all elements of random chance taken out of it. 

I'd say that a robotic Donkey built in 1980 presented with this decision would do exactly as the Greek philosopher predicted - become paralyzed, and die.

But it can be abstractly applied beyond a paradox. Think about it. If two different sides on the political aisle used sound logic, then there would be no partisan view. Like the donkey, partisan politics would die because logic would prohibit either side to feed off agendas. If invert the paradox, within this thought experiment, it still works. 

Vegas » 11 Oct 2022, 1:37 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2022, 1:37 pm

It was directed at me, since I am Greek.

Yeah I know that. I remember you saying that at some point. Jews have a very racial way of looking st the world. I do also.