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Blackvegetable » 20 Oct 2022, 8:54 am » wrote: ↑

20 Oct 2022, 8:54 am

But it's not just "141 participants"

It's 141 "141 presidential scholars, historians and political scientists".


Unlike Zeet and Paul Bedard..
 

what are political scientists? Psychologists or psychiatrists selling metaphysical possibilities living could exceed mutually evolving as displaced. professors or politicians become chosen people leading the desire to live larger than genetically arrived?

Institutions of God and country are designed to keep each ancestor focusing on life beyond mutually adapting to the moment here from arriving great great grandchildren generation to dying off 1 of 16 great great grandparent generation people since all ancestors human are within one species separate ancestral lineages due to geographical locations first 100,000 years before civilization began developing the humanities over last 7,000 revolutions around the star.

Blackvegetable » 20 Oct 2022, 8:08 am » wrote: ↑

20 Oct 2022, 8:08 am

There isn't a bit of that post which is true.

Literally, not one bit....

And that proves to me that you're so dumb that you didn't even read the poll the poll you posted!
Here's a direct quote FROM YOUR LINK, dickhead:

The Siena College Research Institute (SCRI) Survey of U.S. Presidents is based on responses from 141 presidential scholars, historians and political scientists that responded via mail or web to an invitation to participate.

Joseph Biden enters the ranking after only a year in office

So, not only did you not read your own link before posting it, YOU DIDN'T EVEN READ IT AFTER I EXPOSED THOSE FACTS AND RUBBED YOUR NOSE IN IT!

It's a perfect example of why you're considered the dumbest participant here!
 

Zeets2 » 21 Oct 2022, 8:17 am » wrote: ↑

21 Oct 2022, 8:17 am

And that proves to me that you're so dumb that you didn't even read the poll the poll you posted!
Here's a direct quote FROM YOUR LINK, dickhead:

So, not only did you not read your own link before posting it, YOU DIDN'T EVEN READ IT AFTER I EXPOSED THOSE FACTS AND RUBBED YOUR NOSE IN IT!

It's a perfect example of why you're considered the dumbest participant here!

presidential scholars, historians and political scientists


and please, a number of years ago I actually spoke to one of the guys who has run this survey for decades.

Biden was included.

As Grifty was included after his first year in the APSA survey.

He didn't do very well.

Blackvegetable » 21 Oct 2022, 8:27 am » wrote: ↑

21 Oct 2022, 8:27 am

presidential scholars, historians and political scientists

and please, a number of years ago I actually spoke to one of the guys who has run this survey for decades.

Biden was included.
 

Yeah, HIS FIRST YEAR IN OFFICE was ALL that was included, and the ONLY reason he came out any better than the worst president we've ever had, which is surely what would be the case if the last 10 months were included as well!

So you admit you didn't even read the link, asshole?
Wasn't this worthless biased poll sent out to ONLY 141 HANDPICKED PEOPLE WHO WERE SELECTED BY LIBERALS FOR THEIR RESPONSE?

Or wasn't THIS your EXACT QUOTE?:

There isn't a bit of that post which is true.

Literally, not one bit....

Just goes to prove the old adage further:
THERE IS NOTHING DUMBER THAN A LIBERAL!

 

Blackvegetable » 20 Oct 2022, 8:54 am » wrote: ↑

20 Oct 2022, 8:54 am

But it's not just "141 participants"

It's 141 "141 presidential scholars, historians and political scientists".
 

You're EXACTLY RIGHT!  
It was 141 participants WHO THEY HAND PICKED TO SEND THE SURVEY TO!

Care to bet that I can't come up with a poll of my own and handpick who I send it to that would get nearly unanimous agreement that Biden is BY FAR the worst president we've ever had, and the SECOND WORST WAS OBAMA!!!

THAT is how incredibly gullible liberals like you truly are, to believe in the "accuracy" of your favorite leftist idiots when they send out completely biased polls in order to create the false narrative THAT THEY WANT!
 

Zeets2 » 21 Oct 2022, 8:50 am » wrote: ↑

21 Oct 2022, 8:50 am

You're EXACTLY RIGHT!  
It was 141 participants WHO THEY HAND PICKED TO SEND THE SURVEY TO!

Care to bet that I can't come up with a poll of my own and handpick who I send it to that would get nearly unanimous agreement that Biden is BY FAR the worst president we've ever had, and the SECOND WORST WAS OBAMA!!!

THAT is how incredibly gullible liberals like you truly are, to believe in the "accuracy" of your favorite leftist idiots when they send out completely biased polls in order to create the false narrative THAT THEY WANT!

No...

Siena doesn't choose who responds.

They send it to an extensive list of people with the appropriate qualifications - who choose whether or not to participate. 

**** idiot 
 

Blackvegetable » 21 Oct 2022, 9:19 am » wrote: ↑

21 Oct 2022, 9:19 am

No...

Siena doesn't choose who responds.

They send it to an extensive list of people with the appropriate qualifications - who choose whether or not to participate. 
 

That's obviously NOT something they're able to control, asshole, and no one ever said it was! 
But of course, a dickhead like YOU is only able to respond to a question THAT'S NOT ASKED OF YOU!

What they DO control AND CHOOSE is WHO they decide they want to SEND the survey to!  If they ONLY send it to 500 of the biggest liberals they know, they can be quite confident that WHATEVER number responds, they will answer EXACTLY  the way Siena wants, MAKING IT A TOTALLY WORTHLESS POLL!  But that's what the most ignorant liberals like you want to see, isn't it?

And you're simply too dumb to grasp that reality WHICH YOU CANNOT DENY!
 

Zeets2 » 21 Oct 2022, 10:13 am » wrote: ↑

21 Oct 2022, 10:13 am

That's obviously NOT something they're able to control, asshole, and no one ever said it was! 
But of course, a dickhead like YOU is only able to respond to a question THAT'S NOT ASKED OF YOU!

What they DO control AND CHOOSE is WHO they decide they want to SEND the survey to!  If they ONLY send it to 500 of the biggest liberals they know, they can be quite confident that WHATEVER number responds, they will answer EXACTLY  the way Siena wants, MAKING IT A TOTALLY WORTHLESS POLL!  But that's what the most ignorant liberals like you want to see, isn't it?

And you're simply too dumb to grasp that reality WHICH YOU CANNOT DENY!

If they ONLY send it to 500 of the biggest liberals they know, they can be quite confident that WHATEVER number responds, they will answer EXACTLY  the way Siena wants, 

What do you believe Siena "wants"?

How does Siena know whether the recipient is liberal or conservative?


**** idiot.

Blackvegetable » 21 Oct 2022, 10:48 am » wrote: ↑

21 Oct 2022, 10:48 am

What do you believe Siena "wants"?

How does Siena know whether the recipient is liberal or conservative?

**** idiot.

If you don't know what a left-wing, NY Times supported polling company wants, you're far too dumb to continue posting on this topic.
You're SO blind to the reality that you don't even understand how biased polls work NOT to "reflect" public opinion, but to DIRECT it precisely in the direction they want!  To say NOTHING about the likelihood that they're free to reject ANY of the surveys returned to them FOR ANY REASON, in order to obtain the result they want!  And they count on liberal morons like you to do exactly what you did; use their slanted phony data to spread to non-believers the false impression that there are huge numbers of other (dopes) who are as gullible as you are!

And HERE is how I know how biased Siena college is, another fact you conveniently fail to acknowledge:

Student Outs Liberal Professor Who Called All Conservatives “Evil”  Siena College Professor Jennifer McErlean sent an email to alumnus, detailing her dislike and animosity towards current students with conservative political views.https://www.conservativenewszone.com/ar ... ives-evil/

Siena College Is Unsafe For Conservative Students
by Jeff Dunetz | Mar 22, 2018



Siena also proudly claims their students describe the political beliefs of their school as being more than 3 times more liberal/progressive than conservative, while there are more than DOUBLE the number of students attending who claim to be Democrats as compared to Republicans.

Only a dolt as ignorant as you would not be aware of those facts before you stupidly report on one of their polls as if it was accurate!
 
 
 

Zeets2 » 21 Oct 2022, 12:22 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Oct 2022, 12:22 pm

If you don't know what a left-wing, NY Times supported polling company wants, you're far too dumb to continue posting on this topic.
You're SO blind to the reality that you don't even understand how biased polls work NOT to "reflect" public opinion, but to DIRECT it precisely in the direction they want!  To say NOTHING about the likelihood that they're free to reject ANY of the surveys returned to them FOR ANY REASON, in order to obtain the result they want!  And they count on liberal morons like you to do exactly what you did; use their slanted phony data to spread to non-believers the false impression that there are huge numbers of other (dopes) who are as gullible as you are!

And HERE is how I know how biased Siena college is, another fact you conveniently fail to acknowledge:

Siena College Is Unsafe For Conservative Students
by Jeff Dunetz | Mar 22, 2018



Siena also proudly claims their students describe the political beliefs of their school as being more than 3 times more liberal/progressive than conservative, while there are more than DOUBLE the number of students attending who claim to be Democrats as compared to Republicans.

Only a dolt as ignorant as you would not be aware of those facts before you stupidly report on one of their polls as if it was accurate!

Which has nothing to do with the survey that has been administered for 40 years.

Blackvegetable » 21 Oct 2022, 12:49 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Oct 2022, 12:49 pm

Which has nothing to do with the survey that has been administered for 40 years.

Who do you think orders, creates, distributes, and counts those poll numbers, you idiot?  THEY'RE LIBERAL FACULTY AND LIBERAL STUDENTS RUNNING IT!
Would you find anything credible in a poll run by Qanon?

You are truly one ignorant baboon!
 

Zeets2 » 21 Oct 2022, 12:57 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Oct 2022, 12:57 pm

Who do you think orders, creates, distributes, and counts those poll numbers, you idiot?  THEY'RE LIBERAL FACULTY AND LIBERAL STUDENTS RUNNING IT!
Would you find anything credible in a poll run by Qanon?

You are truly one ignorant baboon!

Zeet, please..

Enough hysteria.
 

Blackvegetable » 21 Oct 2022, 1:05 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Oct 2022, 1:05 pm

Zeet, please..

Enough hysteria.

Yeah, right!  I'm the hysterical one while you continue to spew the kind of ignorant lies and **** that would make even a demented moron like Biden embarrassed!

Do us all a favor and try to keep your stupidity in check.
And barring that, just go **** yourself!
 

Zeets2 » 21 Oct 2022, 2:22 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Oct 2022, 2:22 pm

Yeah, right!  I'm the hysterical one while you continue to spew the kind of ignorant lies and **** that would make even a demented moron like Biden embarrassed!

Do us all a favor and try to keep your stupidity in check.
And barring that, just go **** yourself!

Just the facty things, Zeet...

Because I know how they burn.
 

Blackvegetable » 21 Oct 2022, 3:08 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Oct 2022, 3:08 pm

Just the facty things, Zeet...

Because I know how they burn.

I gave you all the facts necessary to prove what an ignorant moron you truly are.
And those facts make such a conclusion irrefutable. 
 

Zeets2 » 21 Oct 2022, 3:27 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Oct 2022, 3:27 pm

I gave you all the facts necessary to prove what an ignorant moron you truly are.
And those facts make such a conclusion irrefutable.

No, you didn't. 


 

Blackvegetable » 21 Oct 2022, 5:25 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Oct 2022, 5:25 pm

No, you didn't.

Then support your stupidity, asshole!  Which of the FACTS that I presented are you trying to claim is a lie?

Better to run away now as you always do eventually, rather than get humiliated further as is your wont.
 

Zeets2 » 22 Oct 2022, 9:27 am » wrote: ↑

22 Oct 2022, 9:27 am

Then support your stupidity, asshole!  Which of the FACTS that I presented are you trying to claim is a lie?

Better to run away now as you always do eventually, rather than get humiliated further as is your wont.

Yes. 

The Siena Institute, whose purpose is to conduct surveys and polls, is associated with a Papist Institution, as is The Marist Group.

This does not mean they "direct outcomes", it just means it has those resources at its disposal....which is important if you're gonna survey or poll a large sample of people.

It's conclusion was almost identical to that of the SAMPLE (pay attention @Vegas  ) of conservatives and republicans who participated in the APSA survey.



 
 

Blackvegetable » 22 Oct 2022, 10:45 am » wrote: ↑

22 Oct 2022, 10:45 am

Yes. 

The Siena Institute, whose purpose is to conduct surveys and polls, is associated with a Papist Institution, as is The Marist Group.

This does not mean they "direct outcomes", it just means it has those resources at its disposal....which is important if you're gonna survey or poll a large sample of people.

It's conclusion was almost identical to that of the SAMPLE (pay attention @Vegas   of conservatives and republicans who participated in the APSA survey.

Tell the forum how you believe a skewed sample has no effect on the population stat.

Blackvegetable » 22 Oct 2022, 10:45 am » wrote: ↑

22 Oct 2022, 10:45 am

Yes. 

The Siena Institute, whose purpose is to conduct surveys and polls, is associated with a Papist Institution, as is The Marist Group.

This does not mean they "direct outcomes", it just means it has those resources at its disposal....which is important if you're gonna survey or poll a large sample of people.

It's conclusion was almost identical to that of the SAMPLE (pay attention @Vegas   of conservatives and republicans who participated in the APSA survey.

OK, let's assume that ALL your **** is accurate.  It's not, but assuming that, explain how those 141 "invitees" were chosen and by what criteria.  Were they half Republican registered voters and half Democrat voters?  Or were they skewed with an oversampling of Democrats or blacks, or women, or other minorities as they usually are?  And what was the political affiliation of those students who actually did the vote counting and were they supervised by BOTH Republican and Democrat representatives?  You don't know because that all important criteria IS NOT REVEALED, is it?  And THAT is what makes your biased poll of a mere 141 handpicked respondents as useless as you are!

And how is it that you believe that even though Marist College is one of the most liberal colleges in the country, you still think their polls are also unbiased any less than Siena?  Are you aware that college professors who are registered as Democrats outnumber Republican professors 12 to 1?  Only such a blind, ignorant dope as you could possibly believe that a survey of 141 colleges professors  WHO THEY HANDPICK TO SEND THE POLL TO, despite selecting a profession that is 12-1 registered Democrats could be unbiased!

Go take your **** and talk to the hand, dickhead!  You're obviously far too gullible to have an opinion worthy of refuting!