No More One Sided J6 Hearings

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11 Nov 2022 6:07 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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jerra b
17 Jan 2023 9:34 pm
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golfboy » 17 Jan 2023, 10:32 pm » wrote: Cool.  Show us the orders.

I already did.
 
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17 Jan 2023 9:39 pm
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No, show the actual orders telling the National Guard that they were being deployed to attack the Capitol Hill police.
That was your claim.
 
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17 Jan 2023 10:01 pm
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golfboy » 17 Jan 2023, 9:29 pm » wrote: Why would the National Guard fight the Capitol Police?
Who would have ordered that?
 
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Dems blast Trump officials over Capitol riot
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Dems blast Trump officials over Capitol riotREP. STEPHEN LYNCH: “This is a very recent reversal of your testimony.”CHRISTOPHER MILLER: “Absolutely not, that’s ridiculous.”REP. STEPHEN LYNCH: “You’re ridiculous.”Democrats on Wednesday grilled former Trump officials at a House hearing on the response to the January 6th attack, with members arguing former acting Defense chief Christopher Miller and former acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen failed in their capacity to defend the Capitol and the constitution.REP. RAJA KRISHNAMOORTHI: “…Or you just plain froze and were indecisive while people were being injured, killed while hundreds of rioters breached the Capitol and a nation was traumatized.”Miller said he was reticent to deploy troops on that day for fear it would look like a coup, but didn’t own up to any shortcomings on that day.CHRISTOPHER MILLER: “I stand by every decision I made on January 6th and the following days. I want to emphasize that our nation’s armed forces are to be deployed for domestic law enforcement only when all civilian assets are expended and only as the absolute last resort.”But Miller did say that he spoke to the president ahead of January 6th and Trump was interested in a boosted national guard presence, but only to protect his supporters.CHRISTOPHER MILLER: “I had a meeting with President Trump on the 3rd of January concerning some international threats and at the very end, he asked if there were any requests for national guard support and I informed him of Mayor Bowser’s request.”REP. BYRON DONALDS: “Mr. Miller, to clarify that point, did you tell the president about the mayor’s request or did the President Trump ask if there were requests?”CHRISTOPHER MILLER: “He asked if there were requests.”
 REP. BYRON DONALDS: “What was the President’s response to you in regards to the request by Mayor Bowser?”CHRISTOPHER MILLER: “Fill it and do whatever is necessary to protect demonstrators that were executing their constitutionally protected rights."


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golfboy » 17 Jan 2023, 10:39 pm » wrote: No, show the actual orders telling the National Guard that they were being deployed to attack the Capitol Hill police.
That was your claim.

protect trump supporters means protecting trump supporters. there is  no way out of this.
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golfboy » 17 Jan 2023, 10:39 pm » wrote: No, show the actual orders telling the National Guard that they were being deployed to attack the Capitol Hill police.
That was your claim.

.”REP. BYRON DONALDS: “Mr. Miller, to clarify that point, did you tell the president about the mayor’s request or did the President Trump ask if there were requests?”CHRISTOPHER MILLER: “He asked if there were requests.”
 REP. BYRON DONALDS: “What was the President’s response to you in regards to the request by Mayor Bowser?”CHRISTOPHER MILLER: “Fill it and do whatever is necessary to protect demonstrators that were executing their constitutionally protected rights."
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golfboy » 17 Jan 2023, 10:39 pm » wrote: No, show the actual orders telling the National Guard that they were being deployed to attack the Capitol Hill police.
That was your claim.
at first under trump's order they were to fight the capitol police, by the time they came miller told them to back the capitol police.
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Justthetruth » 17 Jan 2023, 3:06 pm » wrote: The democrats should tell McCarthy who they want on the committess and investigations and if he doesn't put them on the committee pull all democrats and say it's a one sided investigation with no democrats on it.
Choices are compounding effects that always keep ancestries corrupted cradle to grave, and by the results nobody corrects the simplicity of self evident evolving in plain sight, it was always intentional regardless the social order of humanities making character count and genders just another renewable energy source of mind control by reasonable doubt protected by power of suggestion.

"Obey social consensus or face insubordination, treason, blasphemy from your own people besides everyone else ignoring the same thing.".

The no win situation with every reality promising better tomorrows than genetics maintains currently here each rotation of the planet dawn hppens 24/7 as does noon dusk, midnight.

Relative time makes mid night the new day, not dawn the beginning and dusk the end. Grey in the morning, gray in the evening. Light and dark between each.

A sun cannot rise being center of the solar system with planets revolve around when rotating at the same time. Why doesn't everyone else detect perpetual balancing taking place because of spontaneously alive since conceived simultaneously living conceived to dead in plain sight of one's bpody never duplicated in form or shape since a fertilized cell?

Everyone believes, but same everyone refuses to understand evolving inside out is self contained to the moment here never same total sum again is eternally different now all the time adapting to the moment here now.

Original sin within one species speculating real never is actually eternity here now every generation since vocabulary started playing reverse psychology within itself. Yes it was always this simple.
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Neo » 11 Nov 2022, 8:50 am » wrote: They need to follow democrats example and have it in prime time.
And be sure to only feature Democrats testifying.


 
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golfboy » 17 Jan 2023, 10:39 pm » wrote: No, show the actual orders telling the National Guard that they were being deployed to attack the Capitol Hill police.
That was your claim.
Goofball,

Take your beating and get lost.
 
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jerrab » 17 Jan 2023, 2:49 pm » wrote: trump refused to send the national guard during the insurrection. the national guard would be in 15 minutes, that is all the time.
Trump admin was ready to deploy National Guard on Jan 6, Capitol Police timeline showsWASHINGTON (TND) — Editor's Note: The information below outlining how the House and Senate sergeants at arms report to "House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Democrat Leader Chuck Schumer" refers to the current hierarchy as of June 9, 2022, not the one that existed on January 6, 2021. The quote below from Kash Patel claiming the House and Senate sergeants at arms reported to Nancy Pelosi on January 6, 2021 is inaccurate. The Senate sergeant at arms reported to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell at the time.A Capitol Police timeline of the days and weeks surrounding Jan. 6 shows former President Donald Trump’s Department of Defense (DOD) offered the National Guard’s assistance in the days leading up to the violent attack on the U.S. Capitol, validating claims from Trump administration officials that were said to be false by liberal fact-checkers.
What we also know is that President Trump wanted to make sure that the people that came, that there was a safe environment for that kind of assembly,” former President Donald Trump’s Chief of Staff Mark Meadows told Fox News’s Sean Hannity.
And I’ve said that publicly before — the 10,000 National Guard troops that he wanted to make sure that everything was safe and secure," Meadows said. "Obviously having those National Guards available, actually the reason they were able to respond when they did, was because President Trump had actually put them on alert.
Liberal “fact-checkers” like The Washington Post and PolitiFact argued the claim about National Guard assistance coming from Meadows and other top Trump administration officials was false, but an official timeline of the events leading up to Jan. 6 apparently shows differently.According to the timeline, a DOD official reached out to Capitol Police Deputy Chief Sean Gallagher four days before the attack on the U.S. Capitol to inquire about whether Capitol Police anticipated they would request National Guard troops be deployed to prepare for Jan. 6.
https://mynbc15.com/news/nation-world/t ... ary-donald


as you can plainly see .....

your sources are lying........
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jerrab » 17 Jan 2023, 2:54 pm » wrote: https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/06/pentago ... pitol.html

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--------------------------------The Washington D.C. National Guard force of about 1,100 was mobilized to help federal law enforcement tamp down the insurrection, according to chief Pentagon spokesman Jonathan Hoffman. The Department of Justice will lead the federal law enforcement response, Hoffman said.Acting Defense Secretary Chris Miller said he coordinated with Vice President Mike Pence and congressional leaders to activate the National Guard and assist officers with taking back the Capitol. He did not mention any contact with President Donald Trump.Trump had to be convinced to deploy the National Guard, a person familiar with the matter confirms to NBC News. Pence, who was moved to a secure location within the Capitol, was in contact with the Pentagon and “encouraged a much more rapid deployment,” the person added.
Your link of course does not provide a source but instead say's.....
"a person familiar with the matter"
Which means it's another manipulation by a liberal news  source to try and place blame on Trump and take the heat off of Pelosi.....

 
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Majik » 18 Jan 2023, 9:54 am » wrote: Trump admin was ready to deploy National Guard on Jan 6, Capitol Police timeline showsWASHINGTON (TND) — Editor's Note: The information below outlining how the House and Senate sergeants at arms report to "House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Democrat Leader Chuck Schumer" refers to the current hierarchy as of June 9, 2022, not the one that existed on January 6, 2021. The quote below from Kash Patel claiming the House and Senate sergeants at arms reported to Nancy Pelosi on January 6, 2021 is inaccurate. The Senate sergeant at arms reported to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell at the time.A Capitol Police timeline of the days and weeks surrounding Jan. 6 shows former President Donald Trump’s Department of Defense (DOD) offered the National Guard’s assistance in the days leading up to the violent attack on the U.S. Capitol, validating claims from Trump administration officials that were said to be false by liberal fact-checkers.

Liberal “fact-checkers” like The Washington Post and PolitiFact argued the claim about National Guard assistance coming from Meadows and other top Trump administration officials was false, but an official timeline of the events leading up to Jan. 6 apparently shows differently.According to the timeline, a DOD official reached out to Capitol Police Deputy Chief Sean Gallagher four days before the attack on the U.S. Capitol to inquire about whether Capitol Police anticipated they would request National Guard troops be deployed to prepare for Jan. 6.
https://mTrump asked during that meeting whether the District of Columbia's mayor had requested National Guard troops for Jan. 6, the day Congress was to ratify Joe Biden's presidential election victory.Trump told Miller to "fill" the request, the former defense secretary testified. Miller said Trump told him: "Do whatever is necessary to protect demonstrators that were executing their constitutionally protected rights."

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/congre ... 021-05-12/ynbc15.com/news/nation-world/trump-admin-was-ready-to-deploy-national-guard-on-jan-6-capitol-police-timeline-shows-january-donald

as you can plainly see .....

your sources are lying........
trump only wanted the national guard to protect trump supporters, not the capitol or anyone in it. the national guard would fight the capitol police.

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Trump asked during that meeting whether the District of Columbia's mayor had requested National Guard troops for Jan. 6, the day Congress was to ratify Joe Biden's presidential election victory.Trump told Miller to "fill" the request, the former defense secretary testified. Miller said Trump told him: "Do whatever is necessary to protect demonstrators that were executing their constitutionally protected rights."

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/congre ... 021-05-12/
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Majik » 18 Jan 2023, 10:09 am » wrote: Your link of course does not provide a source but instead say's.....
"a person familiar with the matter"
Which means it's another manipulation by a liberal news  source to try and place blame on Trump and take the heat off of Pelosi.....

Looks like jerrab is stuck on stupid.
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18 Jan 2023 9:26 am
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golfboy » 17 Jan 2023, 10:39 pm » wrote: No, show the actual orders telling the National Guard that they were being deployed to attack the Capitol Hill police.
That was your claim.

also miller was directly under trump and he got his orders from trump. 
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18 Jan 2023 9:28 am
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Justthetruth » 17 Jan 2023, 2:55 pm » wrote: They know the truth. 

They are just flooding the zone with ****. 

It's what the right wing does all day long.
The Truth is Pelosi and Schumer knew on Jan. 3rd that the Capital police re-assessed the threat assessment for Jan.6th and did nothing .......
but Pelosi made sure her daughter and a camera crew would be there to film it ...knowing that violence would break out ......
also the truth will come out because we will see pelosi's and schumer's texts and e-mails from the last two and a half years very soon......using the same precedent of over reach your party normalized.

​​​​​​it should be quite illuminating .....
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jerrab » 18 Jan 2023, 10:10 am » wrote: trump only wanted the national guard to protect trump supporters, not the capitol or anyone in it. the national guard would fight the capitol police.

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Trump asked during that meeting whether the District of Columbia's mayor had requested National Guard troops for Jan. 6, the day Congress was to ratify Joe Biden's presidential election victory.Trump told Miller to "fill" the request, the former defense secretary testified. Miller said Trump told him: "Do whatever is necessary to protect demonstrators that were executing their constitutionally protected rights."

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/congre ... 021-05-12/
But you just said Trump didn't do anything or request the national guard.....
your own link above has made you into a liar .....
Next...
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roadkill » 18 Jan 2023, 10:11 am » wrote: Looks like jerrab is stuck on stupid.
Jerra is  running on a hamster wheel driven by the liberal/leftist/ Democrat propaganda machine but will run out of gas very shortly as the GOP led investigations start .
Until then we are stuck with stupid .....

 
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Majik » 18 Jan 2023, 10:32 am » wrote: But you just said Trump didn't do anything or request the national guard.....
your own link above has made you into a liar .....
Next...

nice try, I  said during the insurrection trump refused to do anything.

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jerrab » Yesterday, 1:49 pm » wrote: 
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trump refused to send the national guard during the insurrection. the national guard would be in 15 minutes, that is all the time.

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he told miller he wanted the national guard to protect trump supporters days before the insurrection.
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jerrab » 18 Jan 2023, 11:14 am » wrote: nice try, I  said during the insurrection trump refused to do anything.

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jerrab » Yesterday, 1:49 pm » wrote: 
Yesterday, 1:49 pm
trump refused to send the national guard during the insurrection. the national guard would be in 15 minutes, that is all the time.

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he told miller he wanted the national guard to protect trump supporters days before the insurrection.
There was no insurrection Jerra .....just a protest that Pelosi and Schumer knew was coming because of the reassessed threat assessment by the Capitol Police 3 days prior to Jan.6th.
Trump offered the National guard for that day and Pelosi refused the request.
now why did Pelosi after being briefed by the capital police 3 days prior to jan.6th not increase the security that day?.....or take Trump's offer and recommendations for heightened security?Just The News’ John Solomon exclusively obtained documents showing that President Trump offered National Guard protection to the United States Capitol four days before the events of January 6, 2021.According to Solomon’s reporting:
“An official timeline of the Jan. 6 tragedy assembled by Capitol Police shows that a Defense Department official reached out to a Capitol Police deputy chief, Sean Gallagher, on Jan. 2, 2021 to see if a request for troops was forthcoming, but the offer was quickly rejected after a consultation with then-Chief Steve Sund.” 
This reporting flies in the face of Pelosi’s sham political witch-hunt assertion this evening that President Trump did not offer the Capitol National Guard protection ahead of the events of January 6, 2021.Speaker Pelosi could have easily hardened the United States Capitol in those four days, but Capitol Police did not because of “optics.”Read the full report HERE.​​​​​​
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Majik » 18 Jan 2023, 11:59 am » wrote: There was no insurrection Jerra .....just a protest that Pelosi and Schumer knew was coming because of the reassessed threat assessment by the Capitol Police 3 days prior to Jan.6th.
Trump offered the National guard for that day and Pelosi refused the request.
now why did Pelosi after being briefed by the capital police 3 days prior to jan.6th not increase the security that day?.....or take Trump's offer and recommendations for heightened security?Just The News’ John Solomon exclusively obtained documents showing that President Trump offered National Guard protection to the United States Capitol four days before the events of January 6, 2021.According to Solomon’s reporting:

This reporting flies in the face of Pelosi’s sham political witch-hunt assertion this evening that President Trump did not offer the Capitol National Guard protection ahead of the events of January 6, 2021.Speaker Pelosi could have easily hardened the United States Capitol in those four days, but Capitol Police did not because of “optics.”Read the full report HERE.​​​​​​
Not John "Rudy's Stenographer" Solomon.
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