We need a National Land Value Tax & a recalculated Income Tax... @SRuhle

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By supraTruth4
23 Nov 2022 9:13 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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SJConspirator » 24 Nov 2022, 11:21 pm » wrote: the problem is, people hear land tax and they immediately think of some outrageously oppressive government.

But we already tax land, arbitrarily.  LVT would simply put the taxation at the level of demand for that land.. as you said, guided by the hand of the market, not by whims of politicians and beaurocrats.
So, there would be a constant fight over the rate and who sets it, AND it would vary EVERYWHERE, I'm out!
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Cannonpointer » 26 Nov 2022, 2:23 am » wrote: Incorrect, ****.

Texas and Florida have CLEARLY surpassed California in "getting it right," as evidenced by their lack of annual looting and pillaging sprees by the of-colored community, you fapping blufftard.

CALIFORNIA is the state that cannot manage to stop behaving in a systemically racist fashion, as evidenced by its riot season. It is joined by the other white supremacist havens, Oregon and Washington. In contrast, Idaho appears to have an extremely complacent Niagara community.

When you **** fruitcakes on the left coast sort out how to keep your Naugahydes happy, as Texas and Florida manifestly have done, then you, too, can enjoy riotless Summers. Until then, racist - STOP PROJECTING your white supremacy onto others, and get busy figuring out how to deal with your Africanized Americans equitably - with freedom and justice for all.
Your problem, not mine.
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Cannonpointer » 25 Nov 2022, 5:28 pm » wrote: Yeah - Californians are fleeing to those area.

It appears they would rather be SHOT in Texas or Florida than be mugged and hivved and systematically discriminated against in California. 

People leave to avoid the high taxes and race riots.

Maybe you should focus on ending systemic discrimination, and let the mathematorians work out the taxes, Princess. Image
Idiots moving there should have checked out their property taxes 1st then.
 
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Cannonpointer » 26 Nov 2022, 2:04 am » wrote: Both of these propositions are false. If valuations are "arbitrary" under LVT - and they most certainly are not, - then they are already arbitrary under real estate taxes. Therefore, no harm is done in this regard by switching to LVT.

Regarding your claim that I "think" an acre is "too much property," are you referring to ranches? Football stadiums? Too much property for WHAT, you ridiculous buffoon? And for WHOM, you ridiculous buffoon?

I can assure you that I anticipate the compounds of families like the Kennedys will be larger than the yards of average retirees living on a pension. The very idea that I have commented on how large some unknown stranger's parcel ought to be is ***-pulled and laughable, you simple ****.  Image   Image
"The regular joes who would eat it are the guys who have the pleasure of owing a city home with a double lot. It would suck for them. Take the example above. Their land tax would got to 1800 plus 210 for the house. They would have to make a decision: eat the higher taxes, or do something with the lot. Sell it, build on it, or stop paying the tax and let the city eventually seize it."
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supraTruth4 » 27 Nov 2022, 1:31 am » wrote: So, there would be a constant fight over the rate and who sets it, AND it would vary EVERYWHERE, I'm out!
Describe universal constant that equally separates each reproduction in this atmosphere, now? It is possible to do it with two words.

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supraTruth4 » 27 Nov 2022, 1:34 am » wrote: Your problem, not mine.

Not my problem, ***. Your blue-sate racism is YOUR problem.

We don't have chimp-outs in the red states, because WE DON'T ABUSE OUR ***, you retarded racist ****. 
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supraTruth4 » 27 Nov 2022, 1:38 am » wrote: Idiots moving there should have checked out their property taxes 1st then.

Lol. Cali voters had to prop 13 their **** leaders - and their taxes are STILL higher than red states.

Cuz SOMEONE has to pay the welfare. 
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supraTruth4 » 27 Nov 2022, 1:45 am » wrote: "The regular joes who would eat it are the guys who have the pleasure of owing a city home with a double lot. It would suck for them. Take the example above. Their land tax would got to 1800 plus 210 for the house. They would have to make a decision: eat the higher taxes, or do something with the lot. Sell it, build on it, or stop paying the tax and let the city eventually seize it."
You managed a copy paste, fruitcake.

Tell the board - are you taking issue with your OWN OP, you stupid **** amoeba?

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When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

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You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

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An opinion you won't defend is not your own

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Cannonpointer » 27 Nov 2022, 12:26 pm » wrote: You managed a copy paste, fruitcake.

Tell the board - are you taking issue with your OWN OP, you stupid **** amoeba?

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I think he just wants to hate on you whatever your position is looks like you have a fan CP
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Cannonpointer » 27 Nov 2022, 12:26 pm » wrote: You managed a copy paste, fruitcake.

Tell the board - are you taking issue with your OWN OP, you stupid **** amoeba?

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Other than the FACT that you already admitted that you lie, how can you now back out of the fact that you lied when you said you don't have a hard-on for those who own a "double lot," PudMouth?
 
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Cannonpointer » 27 Nov 2022, 12:23 pm » wrote: Lol. Cali voters had to prop 13 their **** leaders - and their taxes are STILL higher than red states.

Cuz SOMEONE has to pay the welfare.
Only because their property values are higher, PudMouth.

https://www.rocketmortgage.com/learn/pr ... s-by-state

16 California 0.76%
17 New Mexico 0.80%
18 Mississippi 0.81%
19 Virginia 0.82%
20 Montana 0.84%
21 North Carolina 0.84%
22 Indiana 0.85%
23 Kentucky 0.86%
24 Florida 0.89%
25 Oklahoma 0.90%
26 Georgia 0.92%
27 Missouri 0.97%
28 Oregon 0.97%
29 North Dakota 0.98%
30 Washington 0.98% $
31 Maryland 1.09%
32 Minnesota 1.12%
33 Alaska 1.19%
34 Massachusetts 1.23%
35 South Dakota 1.31%
36 Maine 1.36%
37 Kansas 1.41% 
38 Michigan 1.54%
39 Ohio 1.56%
40 Iowa 1.57%
41 Pennsylvania 1.58%
42 Rhode Island 1.63%
43 New York 1.72%
44 Nebraska 1.73%
45 Texas 1.80%
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Cannonpointer » 25 Nov 2022, 4:14 pm » wrote: Yes - they are. Those other states WILL welcome them, as you say, when Cali chases them off.

You are correct. 

They are also welcome to avoid the woke silliness - race riots, looting, killing. 

If California would just stop being institutionally racist, you would not have the race riots. Look at Florida, Texas and Nevada. MORE blacks per capita - no race riots, because they do not practice institutional racism against their of-colored citizens.
& where is this "institutional racism?"
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supraTruth4 » 01 Dec 2022, 5:26 am » wrote: Other than the FACT that you already admitted that you lie, how can you now back out of the fact that you lied when you said you don't have a hard-own for those who own a "double lot," PudMouth?
You will never admit contextual intellectual facts never address the whole evolving content thing entirely.
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HOW ABOUT A UNIVERSAL TAX ABATEMENT ON BUILDINGS?  

A “universal property tax abatement” would reduce the tax rate applied to all privately created building values.  This should be well-received by almost everybody. This would benefit existing homeowners and businesses as well as newcomers.  The message fits with widespread anti-tax sentiment.

Under the traditional property tax, the responsible owner of a well-maintained home pays more tax than the owner of an adjacent vacant lot or boarded-up building. Yet, the cost of maintaining streets, sidewalks and utility pipes adjacent to these properties is the same. The snowplow doesn't lift its blade as it passes the vacant lot. All these properties are receiving the same infrastructure benefits. Why punish the responsible homeowners while rewarding speculators?
 
 
So, let's recap the Ignorance here...shall we.

BV posted...Only the zealously stupid, like zeet and a few other local dim lights, believe that 1.87 has any meaning beyond the symbolic. Supply/Demand stooges who believe POTUS can control oil prices.........

Then he posted....Grifty was the entire reason gas went to 4.50 this year. :lol:
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TB7 » 01 Dec 2022, 7:23 am » wrote: HOW ABOUT A UNIVERSAL TAX ABATEMENT ON BUILDINGS?  

A “universal property tax abatement” would reduce the tax rate applied to all privately created building values.  This should be well-received by almost everybody. This would benefit existing homeowners and businesses as well as newcomers.  The message fits with widespread anti-tax sentiment.

Under the traditional property tax, the responsible owner of a well-maintained home pays more tax than the owner of an adjacent vacant lot or boarded-up building. Yet, the cost of maintaining streets, sidewalks and utility pipes adjacent to these properties is the same. The snowplow doesn't lift its blade as it passes the vacant lot. All these properties are receiving the same infrastructure benefits. Why punish the responsible homeowners while rewarding speculators?
 
 
absolutely not. Your mentality cannot define a specific universe, so how the hell can it define a single universal tax abatement on buildings that deteriorate from weather, and people abuse.
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omh » 01 Dec 2022, 7:52 am » wrote: absolutely not. Your mentality cannot define a specific universe, so how the hell can it define a single universal tax abatement on buildings that deteriorate from weather, and people abuse.
Thanks Einstein.
 
So, let's recap the Ignorance here...shall we.

BV posted...Only the zealously stupid, like zeet and a few other local dim lights, believe that 1.87 has any meaning beyond the symbolic. Supply/Demand stooges who believe POTUS can control oil prices.........

Then he posted....Grifty was the entire reason gas went to 4.50 this year. :lol:
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TB7 » 01 Dec 2022, 8:19 am » wrote: Thanks Einstein.
 
I debunked Einstein's relative theory, so I am not comparing myself to Einstein denying real time. I have come to understanding simple compounding results be it economic theories or ancestral progression within this ever changing population of a species never duplicating a previous ancestor since inception twice.
8 billion one of a kind reproductions left here now.
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supraTruth4 » 01 Dec 2022, 5:26 am » wrote: Other than the FACT that you already admitted that you lie, how can you now back out of the fact that you lied when you said you don't have a hard-own for those who own a "double lot," PudMouth?

Why you nuzzling MY cock about this, fruity? Talk to the dick sucker who started the thread - it's HIS OP to defend, not mine. 
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supraTruth4 » 01 Dec 2022, 5:34 am » wrote: Only because their property values are higher, PudMouth.

https://www.rocketmortgage.com/learn/pr ... s-by-state

16 California 0.76%
17 New Mexico 0.80%
18 Mississippi 0.81%
19 Virginia 0.82%
20 Montana 0.84%
21 North Carolina 0.84%
22 Indiana 0.85%
23 Kentucky 0.86%
24 Florida 0.89%
25 Oklahoma 0.90%
26 Georgia 0.92%
27 Missouri 0.97%
28 Oregon 0.97%
29 North Dakota 0.98%
30 Washington 0.98% $
31 Maryland 1.09%
32 Minnesota 1.12%
33 Alaska 1.19%
34 Massachusetts 1.23%
35 South Dakota 1.31%
36 Maine 1.36%
37 Kansas 1.41% 
38 Michigan 1.54%
39 Ohio 1.56%
40 Iowa 1.57%
41 Pennsylvania 1.58%
42 Rhode Island 1.63%
43 New York 1.72%
44 Nebraska 1.73%
45 Texas 1.80%
Bwahaha!! Your link is a PILE OF ****.  Image  

15th ranked TN has a slightly lower property tax rate, 1/3rd the average home value, and virtually the same average assessment as Cali - which makes ZERO sense. So their is either math is bad - which is highly unlikely, - or there is MISSING CONTEXT. Without that missing context, your link is useless and your claims are ****, fruity. 
 
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

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When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

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supraTruth4 » 01 Dec 2022, 6:25 am » wrote: & where is this "institutional racism?"
You stupid? You don't know how this works, you retard?

I don't have to PROVE the racism. The RIOTS prove the racism.

Wait up - hold the **** phone. You refusing to own this, chump? You suggesting that the RIOTERS are at fault?

Maybe less moral, or less in control of their impulses, or less intelligent? Is that your argument, you white supremacist piece of ****?

Look, EITHER Cali is a racist jim crow **** hole, OR the rioting ****** are at fault. 

If you have a THIRD explanation, lemee give you some **** space, clown. Print it here:







































































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When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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