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Monderegal » 27 Nov 2022, 6:09 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Nov 2022, 6:09 pm

That was the beginning but not the spirit of the founding fathers as spelled out in coming years as the American promise spread.

Agree, I was being slightly sarcastic. 
 

Monderegal » 26 Nov 2022, 9:50 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Nov 2022, 9:50 pm

From my perspective, humanity as a total would probably welcome less conspiracy theories about ethnic groups and other forms of gaslighting. That gaslighting is pretty much all the MAGA crowd offers

Hold a moment, fruitcake. 

You push chicks with dicks. **** you with your spew about gaslighting. 
 

Neo » 27 Nov 2022, 6:16 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Nov 2022, 6:16 pm

So **** what? I am aware of the history. Aware jews were granted exceptions from usury laws so many European Jewish families became extremely wealthy on the backs of those that needed to borrow money. American jews got involved in pioneering days of moving pictures, they saw beyond their race and promoted black singers and music during the jazz era. This gave them over representation in Hollywood and music which translated into control of media. The politics of jealousy is a progressive liberal thing. I could care less that jews are over represented in the ultra wealthy class. They seem preoccupied with ensuring they are not subjected to a second Holocaust, an understandable sentiment. Crabs in a bucket mentality helps no one.

All **** and all political correctness ^^^. **** that ****. **** PC. I want no part of that kind of cowardice. 

You act like they picked themselves up from the bootstraps and made billions, or that they are some inspiring rags to riches story. They rode the backs off of the poor. Then they rode on the backs of the middle class. Then they rode on the backs of the wealthy.  Now, they have the power to do whatever they wish. It wasn't some "they put in the honest work" etc...

If you don't believe it, then ask yourself where Israel would be if we stopped supporting them. Additionally, ask yourself where they would be if we had never supported them. 

Monderegal » 27 Nov 2022, 9:38 am » wrote: ↑

27 Nov 2022, 9:38 am

I'd contend the opposite in recent times. 

We didn't become great in recent times, fruitcake. 
 

Neo » 27 Nov 2022, 5:37 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Nov 2022, 5:37 pm

One could just say "the rich" or "the elite" and still be wrong. No need to add racism to ignorance. Jew hatred is racism.

Liar. It get its OWN name - as you well know. and that is WORSE than racism - as you well know. 

I mean...I personally do not understand. If you don't care about your extended family (your race)...then what? Just your immediate family? That's rather selfish. And good luck managing a national defense with a dozen people.

Vegas » 27 Nov 2022, 6:23 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Nov 2022, 6:23 pm

All **** and all political correctness ^^^. **** that ****. **** PC. I want no part of that kind of cowardice. 

You act like they picked themselves up from the bootstraps and made billions, or that they are some inspiring rags to riches story. They rode the backs off of the poor. Then they rode on the backs of the middle class. Then they rode on the backs of the wealthy.  Now, they have the power to do whatever they wish. It wasn't some "they put in the honest work" etc...

If you don't believe it, then ask yourself where Israel would be if we stopped supporting them. Additionally, ask yourself where they would be if we had never supported them.

Jews are not a monolithic entity, they did nothing as a race any more than the blacks or the Italians or the English. Some jews got rich off of taking full advantage of an enforced practice that prevented Christians from loaning money with interest. Getting angry at that is like getting mad at Chinese restaurants for profiting off most places being closed Christmas and Thanksgiving. They took advantage of a business opportunity, ya really going to hate them for that?
 
There would be no Israel without US support. We know it, they know it. Again, so what? We support a western democracy parked in the middle of Islamic pandemonium, we get our monies worth in intelligence alone. 

Neo » 27 Nov 2022, 6:16 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Nov 2022, 6:16 pm

So **** what? I am aware of the history. Aware jews were granted exceptions from usury laws so many European Jewish families became extremely wealthy on the backs of those that needed to borrow money. American jews got involved in pioneering days of moving pictures, they saw beyond their race and promoted black singers and music during the jazz era. This gave them over representation in Hollywood and music which translated into control of media. The politics of jealousy is a progressive liberal thing. I could care less that jews are over represented in the ultra wealthy class. They seem preoccupied with ensuring they are not subjected to a second Holocaust, an understandable sentiment. Crabs in a bucket mentality helps no one.

a SECOND holocaust? Where have YOU been? 

This is not the first time they've claimed to be holocasted - not even the first time they have bandied about the magic number: six million. 

You've already been shown this **** - your feigned ignorance is dishonest.
 

Neo » 27 Nov 2022, 5:37 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Nov 2022, 5:37 pm

One could just say "the rich" or "the elite" and still be wrong. No need to add racism to ignorance. Jew hatred is racism.

But it isn't just the elite. 

You know how idiot woke people talk about how there is structural racism that benefits all whites? 

Well they are correct in concept. it just isn't whites. No, we dwell in a Jewish supremacist society. .

elite jews are motivated by their jewishness to construct the sort of society jews thrive in. 

Which kinda sucks for everyone else...cause jews are the only people who thrive in diversity...who thrive In a debt economy...etc.
 

Neo » 27 Nov 2022, 6:29 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Nov 2022, 6:29 pm

Jews are not a monolithic entity, they did nothing as a race any more than the blacks or the Italians or the English. Some jews got rich off of taking full advantage of an enforced practice that prevented Christians from loaning money with interest. Getting angry at that is like getting mad at Chinese restaurants for profiting off most places being closed Christmas and Thanksgiving. They took advantage of a business opportunity, ya really going to hate them for that?

They took advantage of "people", not "opportunities." 

They have never done anything themselves. Almost every one of these Jewish elitists got where they are by exploiting a weak group of people, not by exploiting an opportunity. They have exploited America for decades because they know that they have convinced people like you that they are some innocent and docile population that just wants to work 9 to 5 jobs like everyone else. 

If you look at their history, you will notice that they never really did anything impressive. The only accomplishment, that they can be credited for, is the invention of nukes. 

Even their food is ****. 

Neo » 27 Nov 2022, 6:29 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Nov 2022, 6:29 pm

Jews are not a monolithic entity, they did nothing as a race any more than the blacks or the Italians or the English. Some jews got rich off of taking full advantage of an enforced practice that prevented Christians from loaning money with interest. Getting angry at that is like getting mad at Chinese restaurants for profiting off most places being closed Christmas and Thanksgiving. They took advantage of a business opportunity, ya really going to hate them for that?
 
There would be no Israel without US support. We know it, they know it. Again, so what? We support a western democracy parked in the middle of Islamic pandemonium, we get our monies worth in intelligence alone.

the English were never a monolithic entity lol. But they did conquer a lot and certainly had global dominance until after ww2. 

You don't need to be a monolith.. lol.. to have power

Not everyone was terribly happy about anglo dominance. Native Americans, Indians, Chinese, etc certainly could complain about anglo dominance and yes they could call it anglo dominance...even though not everyone in the elite was an anglo and the anglos weren't a monolith. 

I am applying exactly the same logic you are used to and accept about historical white world supremacy. I simply apply it to jews. 

Call it critical Jewish theory, if you like.

Monderegal » 26 Nov 2022, 9:50 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Nov 2022, 9:50 pm

From my perspective, humanity as a total would probably welcome less conspiracy theories about ethnic groups and other forms of gaslighting. That gaslighting is pretty much all the MAGA crowd offers to political discourse. Russian propaganda about transgender garbage and comparing groups to groups. Remember salient political discourse? I hope no one finds that offensive, the natural law should stand if you are an American. It certainly got us this far on the world stage. I would hate to see that fall into backwash if it hasn't already.

You make it sound complicated. It is not. Salient political discourse was the soup de jour until the radical left wouldn't have it.

Vegas » 27 Nov 2022, 6:37 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Nov 2022, 6:37 pm

They took advantage of "people", not "opportunities." 

They have never done anything themselves. Almost every one of these Jewish elitists got where they are by exploiting a weak group of people, not by exploiting an opportunity. They have exploited America for decades because they know that they have convinced people like you that they are some innocent and docile population that just wants to work 9 to 5 jobs like everyone else. 

If you look at their history, you will notice that they never really did anything impressive. The only accomplishment, that they can be credited for, is the invention of nukes. 

Even their food is ****.

Surviving as a people for 6000 years is better than what most societies have accomplished. 
 

Neo » 27 Nov 2022, 8:55 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Nov 2022, 8:55 pm

Surviving as a people for 6000 years is better than what most societies have accomplished.

Surviving is one thing. Living with purpose is quite another. 

Vegas » 27 Nov 2022, 9:04 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Nov 2022, 9:04 pm

Surviving is one thing. Living with purpose is quite another.

Progenitors of the three largest religions on earth is quite a purpose. 
 

Neo » 27 Nov 2022, 9:08 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Nov 2022, 9:08 pm

Progenitors of the three largest religions on earth is quite a purpose.

Almost every ethnic population on this planet has some religion they adhere to. That's not an accomplishment. 

Vegas » 27 Nov 2022, 9:10 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Nov 2022, 9:10 pm

Almost every ethnic population on this planet has some religion they adhere to. That's not an accomplishment.

Most people on the planet worship the God of the Jews. It's not even close. 
 

Neo » 27 Nov 2022, 9:12 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Nov 2022, 9:12 pm

Most people on the planet worship the God of the Jews. It's not even close.

I genuinely don't care. Religion is part of humanity. It's not a Jewish invention. 

Cannonpointer » 27 Nov 2022, 6:24 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Nov 2022, 6:24 pm

We didn't become great in recent times, fruitcake.

It depends on how you define recent times. Since the Cold War? Since the end of World War II? My political philosophy is heavily influenced by the era of American decolonialization; a lot of history that still stands today.
Perhaps your view is that America isn't great anymore. Chicks with dicks might be problematic too. We have gotten a little off kilter with the idea of rights but that doesn't completely dissolve the notion.
 
 

Monderegal » 27 Nov 2022, 9:17 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Nov 2022, 9:17 pm

Chicks with dicks might be problematic too. We have gotten a little off kilter with the idea of rights but that doesn't completely dissolve the notion.

It DEFINES gaslighting, fruitcake. You mere use of the qualifier "might be" is **** gaslighting, you child-danger creep.