A more realistic measure of 'economy'

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1 Dec 2022 9:13 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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jefftec » 02 Dec 2022, 11:12 am » wrote: ↑ ….can understand your position. The environment  is NOT ideal for young couples starting up a family, true enough. 
…..with a little faith people will tend to find a way…
Nope. Not many. And this is by design. White people are just supposed to stop reproducing and be replaced by other people.
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jefftec » 02 Dec 2022, 11:12 am » wrote: ↑ ….can understand your position. The environment  is NOT ideal for young couples starting up a family, true enough. 
…..with a little faith people will tend to find a way…
 
understanding the situation does more than any belief ever has. Fall back on the old adage God helps those that help themselves to working in balance rather than conquering space time continuums.
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FOS » 02 Dec 2022, 11:14 am » wrote: ↑ Nope. Not many. And this is by design. White people are just supposed to stop reproducing and be replaced by other people.
….if the design is intentional, then that isn’t good, imo.  There are forces that want continual power and will replace whites and blacks or whoever in order to attain it.
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omh » 02 Dec 2022, 11:16 am » wrote: ↑ understanding the situation does more than any belief ever has. Fall back on the old adage God helps those that help themselves to working in balance rather than conquering space time continuums.
….you were doing ok then, you went abstract on me. …sigh…
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jefftec » 02 Dec 2022, 11:31 am » wrote: ↑ ….if the design is intentional, then that isn’t good, imo.  There are forces that want continual power and will replace whites and blacks or whoever in order to attain it.
Well most people consider genocide to be a bad thing. It is only a bit controversial to oppose the genocide of whites, since we are subhuman.
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FOS » 02 Dec 2022, 11:34 am » wrote: ↑ Well most people consider genocide to be a bad thing. It is only a bit controversial to oppose the genocide of whites, since we are subhuman.
…..genocide of whites is coming about how? Who told you were subhuman?….I’m not for any of this here…..
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FOS » 01 Dec 2022, 10:13 am » wrote: ↑ Sorry.. but the way most of you people talk about the economy is complete rubbish. I am quite tired of all debates over whether we are in a 'recession' and nonsense like that. All your numbers and charts and graphs are irrelevant and fake and stupid. 

Here's the bottom line; Humans are life forms. In order for us to 'break even' ...everyone needs to have an average of slightly more than one child (slightly more to account for untimely death)...or slightly more than 2 per couple

and they need to have a decent quality of life. 

That means

1) a single income household (somebody has to raise, cook,clean, change diapers, etc)

2) their own house

3) a decent education

4) a decently safe neighborhood...being able to actually play in the backyard without getting abducted raped and killed

5) the ability to retire and survive as some point (70 or so)

And you know...whatever else is a basic necessity.

That needs to be the AVERAGE. Maybe there is wealth inequality. Say 50% of the people cannot afford this. Then the other 50% need to be able to have 4 children...and they also would need to actually do it...since a bunch of rich infertile people will still cause population decline. 

Such a 50/50 division would be cause for serious concern, however...since the survivors would be increasingly inbred and the people who failed to reproduce may have been poor for reasons other than being useless, and their heritable traits are being lost to the gene pool. 

Now since we survive, it is clear that EVERY European society in history was able to manage this. You might think the English of the 12th century were desperately poor, but they could manage the above stipulations...and even better...since their population grew

what about the usa? What % of our housholds can afford 2 children with a decent quality of life?

I'm sorry...but just my personal experience of the cost of raising children decently and living in a decent area...I can't help but feel like less than 10% of thr people can even afford it. Me and my gf are bothe technically in the 1%, and we would struggle to afford such a thing. I can't get health insurance...and she only just recently paid off student loans.
“By this means (fractional reserve banking) government may secretly and unobserved, confiscate the wealth of the people, and not one man in a million will detect the theft.”– John Maynard Keynes, The Economic Consequences of the Peace (1920)https://www.globalresearch.ca/famous-qu ... oney/25812

And Woodrow Wilson's Federal Reserve fake money and John Maynard Keynes Keynesian Economics is how it has been accomplished.
 
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jefftec » 02 Dec 2022, 12:01 pm » wrote: ↑ …..genocide of whites is coming about how? Who told you were subhuman?….I’m not for any of this here…..

well the standard opinion of jewish elites is the same as Susan Sontag, noel ignatiev, etc.

and the whole purpose of all western governments, paid puppets of jewish power, is to manage a decline in the population people without alerting them to the fact it is happening
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FOS » 02 Dec 2022, 7:21 am » wrote: ↑ I agree that far more than 50% cannot afford it. And that means this country is literally dying of poverty. We are many times more poor than bangladesh, for example. All the silly measures like gdp do not matter...the bottom line is that the vast majority of people in the usa cannot afford to reproduce while in Bangladesh they can afford 6 children per family on average. Whatever the reason for that...cost of living...higher wages...whatever. they have a far superior economy to the usa.
 Bangaldesh:
Exports of garments and shrimp plus remittances from Bangladeshis working abroad provide the country's three main sources of foreign exchange income.


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DeezerShoove » 02 Dec 2022, 1:21 pm » wrote: ↑  Bangaldesh:
Exports of garments and shrimp plus remittances from Bangladeshis working abroad provide the country's three main sources of foreign exchange income.

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Well why not?

yeah...a dollar goes a lot further in Bangladesh than it does here because they do not have a **** economy like us.
 
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FOS » 02 Dec 2022, 1:24 pm » wrote: ↑ Well why not?

yeah...a dollar goes a lot further in Bangladesh than it does here because they do not have a **** economy like us.
There's no mention of the dollar. Just remittances...

The country is a **** floodplain. ANYTHING is worth something there.
 
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FOS » 02 Dec 2022, 1:02 pm » wrote: ↑ well the standard opinion of jewish elites is the same as Susan Sontag, noel ignatiev, etc.

and the whole purpose of all western governments, paid puppets of jewish power, is to manage a decline in the population people without alerting them to the fact it is happening
…..soon, no one will be free….
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DeezerShoove » 02 Dec 2022, 1:27 pm » wrote: ↑ There's no mention of the dollar. Just remittances...

The country is a **** flood plane. ANYTHING is worth something there.
Well so what? They can afford to not only survive, but they can even manage to grow their population. 

No European country can afford that. 
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FOS » 02 Dec 2022, 1:34 pm » wrote: ↑ Well so what? They can afford to not only survive, but they can even manage to grow their population. 

No European country can afford that.
Yeah, but it's so yucky...

Why is it a measure of success that you can pump out kids that merely survive?
If they lived in a moderately cool environment they wouldn't "succeed" because they couldn't afford to build adequate shelter.
Keeping a kid in clothes is easier when it's a loincloth.

The weather is their best friend, not their economy.
 
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DeezerShoove » 02 Dec 2022, 1:39 pm » wrote: ↑ Yeah, but it's so yucky...

Why is it a measure of success that you can pump out kids that merely survive?
If they lived in a moderately cool environment they wouldn't "succeed" because they couldn't afford to build adequate shelter.
Keeping a kid in clothes is easier when it's a loincloth.

The weather is their best friend, not their economy.
Lol they have houses in Bangladesh. 

Anyway...if people fail to survive then mother nature does not consider that success. And people who do not exist cannot have an economy, of course.
 
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jefftec » 02 Dec 2022, 11:34 am » wrote: ↑ ….you were doing ok then, you went abstract on me. …sigh…
what abstract? self evident kinetic genetic evolving in plain sight.
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DeezerShoove » 02 Dec 2022, 1:39 pm » wrote: ↑ Yeah, but it's so yucky...

Why is it a measure of success that you can pump out kids that merely survive?
If they lived in a moderately cool environment they wouldn't "succeed" because they couldn't afford to build adequate shelter.
Keeping a kid in clothes is easier when it's a loincloth.

The weather is their best friend, not their economy.
I think that's a great insight!
Take my state.. so cold.. Very poor state. Everyone spends their time trying to stay warm for the next winter.
You won't find any hoodlums on the streets ... in the middle of the night annoying the cops. Like the tee-vee show bad boys.. What ya gonna do when they come for you?
 
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FOS » 01 Dec 2022, 10:13 am » wrote: ↑ Sorry.. but the way most of you people talk about the economy is complete rubbish. I am quite tired of all debates over whether we are in a 'recession' and nonsense like that. All your numbers and charts and graphs are irrelevant and fake and stupid. 

Here's the bottom line; Humans are life forms. In order for us to 'break even' ...everyone needs to have an average of slightly more than one child (slightly more to account for untimely death)...or slightly more than 2 per couple

and they need to have a decent quality of life. 

That means

1) a single income household (somebody has to raise, cook,clean, change diapers, etc)

2) their own house

3) a decent education

4) a decently safe neighborhood...being able to actually play in the backyard without getting abducted raped and killed

5) the ability to retire and survive as some point (70 or so)

And you know...whatever else is a basic necessity.

That needs to be the AVERAGE. Maybe there is wealth inequality. Say 50% of the people cannot afford this. Then the other 50% need to be able to have 4 children...and they also would need to actually do it...since a bunch of rich infertile people will still cause population decline. 

Such a 50/50 division would be cause for serious concern, however...since the survivors would be increasingly inbred and the people who failed to reproduce may have been poor for reasons other than being useless, and their heritable traits are being lost to the gene pool. 

Now since we survive, it is clear that EVERY European society in history was able to manage this. You might think the English of the 12th century were desperately poor, but they could manage the above stipulations...and even better...since their population grew

what about the usa? What % of our housholds can afford 2 children with a decent quality of life?

I'm sorry...but just my personal experience of the cost of raising children decently and living in a decent area...I can't help but feel like less than 10% of thr people can even afford it. Me and my gf are bothe technically in the 1%, and we would struggle to afford such a thing. I can't get health insurance...and she only just recently paid off student loans.
Pricing people out of basic living expenses is another one of (((their))) not-so-guilty pleasures. I can already imagine this scenario in my head:

A Jewish financier/banker, who obviously DESERVES his ill-gotten gains because he is a member of (((God's Chosen))) is sitting in his mansion/on some yacht, laughing at all the stupid g0yim who believed their lies disseminated through the (((Mainstream Media))) and through government propaganda factories for the kids (AKA PUBLIC SCHOOLS):

"Take out $80K in student loans just so you can be a wage slave and rent some **** 1 BR/studio apartment in the middle of the city so you don't commute 90+ minutes each day since traffic is so terrible once you get 15+ miles from the city center because the Auto/O&G lobby dislikes public transport"

LOL

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The only thing I find incredible about your post is the lack of health insurance options available to you...lol...I don't even see how that's possible. 
 
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Cannonpointer » 01 Dec 2022, 6:53 pm » wrote: ↑ Precisely. They have to ENGINEER emergencies.
According to progressive "follow the science" geniuses, you are a CUNSPEARISEE theerizt!
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FOS » 01 Dec 2022, 10:13 am » wrote: ↑ Sorry.. but the way most of you people talk about the economy is complete rubbish. I am quite tired of all debates over whether we are in a 'recession' and nonsense like that. All your numbers and charts and graphs are irrelevant and fake and stupid. 

Here's the bottom line; Humans are life forms. In order for us to 'break even' ...everyone needs to have an average of slightly more than one child (slightly more to account for untimely death)...or slightly more than 2 per couple

and they need to have a decent quality of life. 

That means

1) a single income household (somebody has to raise, cook,clean, change diapers, etc)

2) their own house

3) a decent education

4) a decently safe neighborhood...being able to actually play in the backyard without getting abducted raped and killed

5) the ability to retire and survive as some point (70 or so)

And you know...whatever else is a basic necessity.

That needs to be the AVERAGE. Maybe there is wealth inequality. Say 50% of the people cannot afford this. Then the other 50% need to be able to have 4 children...and they also would need to actually do it...since a bunch of rich infertile people will still cause population decline. 

Such a 50/50 division would be cause for serious concern, however...since the survivors would be increasingly inbred and the people who failed to reproduce may have been poor for reasons other than being useless, and their heritable traits are being lost to the gene pool. 

Now since we survive, it is clear that EVERY European society in history was able to manage this. You might think the English of the 12th century were desperately poor, but they could manage the above stipulations...and even better...since their population grew

what about the usa? What % of our housholds can afford 2 children with a decent quality of life?

I'm sorry...but just my personal experience of the cost of raising children decently and living in a decent area...I can't help but feel like less than 10% of thr people can even afford it. Me and my gf are bothe technically in the 1%, and we would struggle to afford such a thing. I can't get health insurance...and she only just recently paid off student loans.
human race had no problem advancing from the caves. today, there is a specialized economy. all, that most people know what to do is their specialized job, and how to wipe their butt. the specialized economy will fall! and those with primitive skills will let the specialist starve. love it. so great. give me lots of land. let the buffalo roam. never to see another human is my dream.
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