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Cannonpointer » 02 Dec 2022, 6:22 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Dec 2022, 6:22 pm

The guy cannot tell whether a fellow is male or female without asking. But we should listen to his out-of-a-can patter about grownup stuff?

WTF do you care?  Try minding your own **** business.
 

Ike Bana » 03 Dec 2022, 9:55 am » wrote: ↑

03 Dec 2022, 9:55 am

WTF do you care?  Try minding your own **** business.
 

every ancestor cares about staying alive, until they are led to believe life isn't a natural process. You won't accept life is naturally eternally separated only existing when mutually evolving the numbers forward now in this simple adapt or become extinct environment.

ConsRule » 02 Dec 2022, 10:01 am » wrote: ↑

02 Dec 2022, 10:01 am

Sure...everyone knows the ONLY factor impacting the cost to produce a gallon of gasoline is the cost of a barrel of crude oil.  Refineries don't incur any expense for labor, benefits, insurance, transportation, maintenance supplies, utilities, fuel, taxes, etc.  Those things are provided to the refineries at no cost to the oil company.

Bull **** hockey...



PROFITS...THAT'S ALL IT IS...OBSCENE BIG OIL PROFITS.  AND THIS IS ONLY FOR ONE QUARTER, MULTIPLY THESE NUMBERS BY FOUR THAT'S THE APPROXIMATE YEARLY PROFIT.
 
 

Ike Bana » 03 Dec 2022, 10:13 am » wrote: ↑

03 Dec 2022, 10:13 am

Bull **** hockey...

https://cdn.statcdn.com/Infographic/ima ... 27887.jpeg

PROFITS...THAT'S ALL IT IS...OBSCENE BIG OIL PROFITS.
 

shallow minds never navigate life inside out, just speculate what else is possible thinking outside living as eternally separated now.

omh » 03 Dec 2022, 10:16 am » wrote: ↑

03 Dec 2022, 10:16 am

shallow minds never navigate life inside out, just speculate what else is possible thinking outside living as eternally separated now.

ONE MINUTE TO WAPNER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
 

Ike Bana » 03 Dec 2022, 10:18 am » wrote: ↑

03 Dec 2022, 10:18 am

ONE MINUTE TO WAPNER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
 

diversion from what I say, how kindergarten mentality you remain. Instead of everything having to be entirely right or completely wrong, constantly inaccurate is the constant when comparing possibilities against actual results which is why democracies always fail as well as dictatorships.

Every reality is a fake it into fruition social arrangements done ancestrally to date...

IkeBana » 03 Dec 2022, 9:55 am » wrote: ↑

03 Dec 2022, 9:55 am

WTF do you care?  Try minding your own **** business.

WTF do YOU care that I care, ****?

Try minding your own **** business.

Cannonpointer » 03 Dec 2022, 10:38 am » wrote: ↑

03 Dec 2022, 10:38 am

WTF do YOU care that I care, ****?

Try minding your own **** business.

^^^See what comes of two realities ignoring the same thing arrive at?

now multiple that with all the social realities acted out within this one species all current 5 generation gaps are doing currently the same ****.

IkeBana » 03 Dec 2022, 9:49 am » wrote: ↑

03 Dec 2022, 9:49 am

There was one reason for the XL pipeline.  To provide raw material business for floundering half dead big oil refineries in Illinois and Texas.  And the products made from this **** tar sands was all going into overseas markets.

No, son. 

The purpose of the keystone xl is to move the world's dirtiest crude safely and efficiently.

That crude from the Bakken in the North Dakota area is CURRENTLY moving by rail - the most dangerous and ecologically dirty way to haul crude. But Warren Buffet owns the BNSF, which has the monopoly - and joey is protecting that monopoly so **** the environment and **** what you pay at the pump - stupid. 
 
 

Cannonpointer » 03 Dec 2022, 10:38 am » wrote: ↑

03 Dec 2022, 10:38 am

WTF do YOU care that I care, ****?

Try minding your own **** business.

I'm a mental health professional numbnuts.  Headcases like you are my business.   
 

IkeBana » 03 Dec 2022, 10:48 am » wrote: ↑

03 Dec 2022, 10:48 am

I'm a mental health professional numbnuts.  Headcases like you are my business. 

You're a nuthouse orderly who doesn't know a male patient from a female, fruity.

When are you ridiculous, infantilized saps going to understand why no adult respects you?
 

Cannonpointer » 03 Dec 2022, 10:43 am » wrote: ↑

03 Dec 2022, 10:43 am

No, son. 

The purpose of the keystone xl is to move the world's dirtiest crude safely and efficiently.

That crude from the Bakken in the North Dakota area is CURRENTLY moving by rail - the most dangerous and ecologically dirty way to haul crude. But Warren Buffet owns the BNSF, which has the monopoly - and joey is protecting that monopoly so **** the environment and **** what you pay at the pump - stupid. 
 
 

I didn't know those details, but I do recognize how chain of command works as usual. Oh ****, the staged potential rail strike was Buffet and Biden doing the usual scare society **** routine again.

Ike Bana » 03 Dec 2022, 10:48 am » wrote: ↑

03 Dec 2022, 10:48 am

I'm a mental health professional numbnuts.  Headcases like you are my business.  :rofl:  
 

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.... Orderly, housekeeping, filing clerk?.

IkeBana » 03 Dec 2022, 9:49 am » wrote: ↑

03 Dec 2022, 9:49 am

There was one reason for the XL pipeline.  To provide raw material business for floundering half dead big oil refineries in Illinois and Texas.  And the products made from this **** tar sands was all going into overseas markets.  No thanks, not interested.  Particularly when big oil has the record it has for massive spills all over the planet. 

The Gulf Coast has still not recovered from the Deepwater Horizon spill 22 years ago.  Prince William Sound has still not recovered from the Exxon Valdez disaster 33 years ago.  Neither will ever fully recover.  That's because it's **** impossible to fully clean up an ocean oil spill.  There are still large pockets of crude oil all over Prince William Sound.  Why did these two spills happen?  Arrogance and arrogant incompetence.  Crew chiefs and workers on the Deepwater Horizon knew there was a problem down on the bottom, and management refused to do anything about it.

Like so much else proposed by alt-right traitorous conjobs and republican politicians...the XL pipeline was all about politics.

None of those "spills" were from a pipeline, **** for brains!!! Pipelines are the SAFEST way to transport oil.  Yes, shuttering the XL pipeline was "all about politics".  The Canadian tar sands are still being transported into the US through existing and new pipelines and Warren Buffett's BNSF exponentially environmentally unsafe rail cars.

Why would anyone kill an oil pipeline capable of transporting more than 300 million barrels of crude a year when moving oil by pipeline is cheaper, safer, and more environmentally friendly than moving it by rail?  The Keystone XL simply became a symbol of dirty, nasty oil, which meant it had to go—even if there’s little dispute that killing the pipeline increased pollution and energy costs and put more lives at risk.  So, ultimately, the US consumer loses, environmentally and in his pocketbook with having to pay unnecessary higher prices for fuel.


Envirowackos and bought and paid for politicians never do exhibit any common sense...and are never held to account or responsible for their corruption or **** ups!!!
 

IkeBana » 02 Dec 2022, 8:43 am » wrote: ↑

02 Dec 2022, 8:43 am

So, the national average for a gallon of regular today is $3.45.   Some of us pay more, some of us pay less but that's the average from sea to shining sea.  I'm not expecting anybody to thank Biden for the drop in prices, since I don't expect anybody to blame him.  And I'll tell you why...

Right now the US is producing more than twice as many barrels perday as it produced in 2008.  So let's not hear any fossil fuel propaganda about the impact of the shuttering of the Keystone XL pipleline. 

The price of crude two months ago was $120/bbl, today it sits at $75/bbl, and again, the average gallon of gas is at $3.45.  What was the average cost of a gallon of gas the last time crude was at $75?  It was $2.80/gal.

So why isn't gas going for $2.80/gal?  Because big oil is ripping us off for obscene profits.   Why is inflation so bad?  Because big oil and the rest of corporate America is ripping us off for the highest corporate profits in US history, by a country mile. 

But right now, in this thread, we're talking about big oil, an heroic American industry according to fossil fuel loving MAGA/Q_ANON alt-right conjobs...ripping us off.

****!

Of what use is it to refer to a year like 2008 when we have accurate data showing how this year's oil production remains thousands of barrels a day LOWER than it was in the pre-pandemic period of 2019/2020?  

What your useless statistic intentionally fail to account for in the current oil price is the fact that Russia is now providing far less oil exports to Europe and the US, while simultaneously ignoring how the rate of inflation has drastically affected the price since 2008, and especially over the last 2 years of your failed idiot's inflation-causing spending!

You want the price to return to 2008 levels?  The first thing you need to do is to stop your demented leader from his wild spending, and return to the Trump era of LESS regulation and MORE federal lands open to both drilling and fracking in order to reverse the trend.  THOSE factors are what is causing the current price of gas as well as the diminished level of investment in an oil company's R&D, which limit the futures market for oil.

Your obvious lack of business knowledge also fails to account for the inherent level of far lower investment and WILLINGNESS to invest in oil production that occurs WHEN YOU HAVE AN IDIOT LIKE BIDEN PUBLICALLY PROCLAIMING REPEATEDLY THAT HE FULLY INTENDS TO DESTROY THE FOSSIL FUEL INDUSTRY!  Would YOU be dumb enough to invest in a business when government has made their intentions so crystal clear as Biden and the entire Democrat party has?

USE YOUR **** HEAD, LIBERAL!
 

Buffalo » 03 Dec 2022, 12:06 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Dec 2022, 12:06 pm

None of those "spills" were from a pipeline, **** for brains!!! Pipelines are the SAFEST way to transport oil.  Yes, shuttering the XL pipeline was "all about politics".  The Canadian tar sands are still being transported into the US through existing and new pipelines and Warren Buffett's BNSF exponentially environmentally unsafe rail cars.

Why would anyone kill an oil pipeline capable of transporting more than 300 million barrels of crude a year when moving oil by pipeline is cheaper, safer, and more environmentally friendly than moving it by rail?  The Keystone XL simply became a symbol of dirty, nasty oil, which meant it had to go—even if there’s little dispute that killing the pipeline increased pollution and energy costs and put more lives at risk.  So, ultimately, the US consumer loses, environmentally and in his pocketbook with having to pay unnecessary higher prices for fuel.

Envirowackos and bought and paid for politicians never do exhibit any common sense...and are never held to account or responsible for their corruption or **** ups!!!

Ike doesn't know the difference between a male and a female, but he's gonna give us the real skinny on a subject he's spent two minutes on, reading talking points. 

Read/spew/repeat. 
 

Blackvegetable » 03 Dec 2022, 7:09 am » wrote: ↑

03 Dec 2022, 7:09 am

The most famous example of survivorship bias dates back to World War Two. At the time, the American military asked mathematician Abraham Wald to study how best to protect airplanes from being shot down. The military knew armour would help, but couldn’t protect the whole plane or would be too heavy to fly well. Initially, their plan had been to examine the planes returning from combat, see where they were hit the worst – the wings, around the tail gunner and down the centre of the body – and then reinforce those areas. 

But Wald realised they had fallen prey to survivorship bias, because their analysis was missing a valuable part of the picture: the planes that were hit but that hadn’t made it back. As a result, the military were planning to armour precisely the wrong parts of the planes. The bullet holes they were looking at actually indicated the areas a plane could be hit and keep flying – exactly the areas that didn't need reinforcing

https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20 ... e-mistakes

what is the "invisible subgroup" in thie above example?

Does survivorship bias refer to dead people? Too late. You already **** up.

Evidenced by:

It's exactly because I do know that I know you are a **** moron.

Presidents don't drop out of the rankings because they die.

**** idiot.

 
 

Buffalo » 03 Dec 2022, 12:06 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Dec 2022, 12:06 pm

None of those "spills" were from a pipeline, **** for brains!!! Pipelines are the SAFEST way to transport oil.  Yes, shuttering the XL pipeline was "all about politics".  The Canadian tar sands are still being transported into the US through existing and new pipelines and Warren Buffett's BNSF exponentially environmentally unsafe rail cars.

Why would anyone kill an oil pipeline capable of transporting more than 300 million barrels of crude a year when moving oil by pipeline is cheaper, safer, and more environmentally friendly than moving it by rail?  The Keystone XL simply became a symbol of dirty, nasty oil, which meant it had to go—even if there’s little dispute that killing the pipeline increased pollution and energy costs and put more lives at risk.  So, ultimately, the US consumer loses, environmentally and in his pocketbook with having to pay unnecessary higher prices for fuel.

Envirowackos and bought and paid for politicians never do exhibit any common sense...and are never held to account or responsible for their corruption or **** ups!!!

Agreed!  And do NOT underestimate how much it meant to the DNC to continue receiving the tens of millions in campaign donations provided by Warren Buffet, who now is making BILLIONS from the shuttered Keystone pipeline, selling his rail cargo transportation for that Canadian oil that was previously slated to travel far more cheaply though the pipelines that Biden cancelled!

It's clearly about nothing more that Biden's corruption that is carefully hidden by his phony claim that his actions will stop global warming, and by the morons supporting him who actually believe in that useful hoax.
 

Vegas » 03 Dec 2022, 12:16 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Dec 2022, 12:16 pm

Does survivorship bias refer to dead people? Too late. You already **** up.

Evidenced by:

only if you assume people are subject to Survival and.....uhhhh.....NotSurvival.

"you cannot but be awed by the pure, incandescent unteachability of these people"



 

Zeets2 » 03 Dec 2022, 12:11 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Dec 2022, 12:11 pm

****!

Of what use is it to refer to a year like 2008 when we have accurate data showing how this year's oil production remains thousands of barrels a day LOWER than it was in the pre-pandemic period of 2019/2020?  

What your useless statistic intentionally fail to account for in the current oil price

There is a ton of stupid here...

why not post the data to which you refer?

oh, yea.....statistics - in a statistics driven industry - are "useless"....prices tell us nothing about the state of the market.

you're a **** idiot, Zeet.