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IkeBana » 04 Dec 2022, 10:59 am » wrote: ↑

04 Dec 2022, 10:59 am

Outside of a few, every link here takes you to the covid-19forum.org which is an enormous covid-19 conspiracy theory headcase website. 

Declaring it so makes it so in *** world, ***. 

IkeBana » 04 Dec 2022, 10:59 am » wrote: ↑

04 Dec 2022, 10:59 am

Outside of a few, every link here takes you to the covid-19forum.org which is an enormous covid-19 conspiracy theory headcase website.

Which is simply further testament to the reason for your abject stupidity. No interest in facts, data or science since the vast majority of threads contain articles that present facts, data, science and truth, often from world renowned scientists/doctors. While you brainwash yourself with Big Pharma propaganda and their fellow profiteers in government's disinformation, disseminated by Big Pharma's bi*ches like Doctor Death Fauci that never even saw a COVID patient, much less treated one.
The threads in that forum often consolidate several articles on the same subject which is why I include them here for a fuller picture. But then you knew al that before you lied about it.
Meet a few of the medical professionals that we rely on for forum information

Right on the admin introduction page you will find this statement...

 

We do not recommend either for or against vaccines in this forum since that is a personal matter that should be decided on the basis of each person's informed consent and subsequent personal calculation of risk VS reward. Since recipients of whichever COVID-19 vaccine are volunteering to be test subjects in a massive trial of an , investigational, experimental, genetically engineered, chemically enhanced, innate immune response reprogramming, leaky, escape mutant training, gene therapy - the longer term consequences of which only God can know - what we do advocate for is that the trial subjects be fully informed about the vaccine before it is administered, as per the Declaration of Helsinki.

Besides my not being a doctor, that first sentence was penned in a politically correct fashion on February 9th of 2021, in order to walk on egg shells to delay censorship. That was even before the safety signals were reached, and even before many doctors that rail against the vaxx today realized had been hit.
Though anyone doing their own research had already learned enough to know that yet another Big Pharma crime against humanity was under way.
Particularly since there were near 100% effective early treatment protocols available since March of 2020.

 
  Basically what they are saying here in anti-scientific doubletalk designed to bend the minds of the brainlessly intellectually malleable is...don't bother suing us when you're loved ones are dead because they weren't vaccinated as we have clearly stated here that we make no recommendations.

Sites that contain medical information nearly always include disclaimers.
The links you quoted speak for themselves.

Translated...
The vaccines are ****, and you are all unwitting victims of deadly vaccines that will maim you and kill you.

As has been demonstrated in spades by any metric beginning with Pfizer's own "trial".
42.8% greater all-cause mortality in Pfizer's vaccine group than placebo group

Tell us Mr. Buffoon, is that what convinced you to volunteer to be a lab rat for a criminal corporation?
Are those that get the "jab" even aware of Pfizer's history of criminal conduct?
Because there was 42.8% greater all-cause mortality in their vaxx arm than their unvaxxed control arm? Or was it the 1,291 different "adverse events of special interest"?

Let alone the continuing unfolding disaster. With what should have been expected, astronomical increases all-cause mortality, based on Pfizer's own trials:
Life insurance CEO says deaths are up 40% among people ages 18-64
Fifth-largest U.S. life insurer reports 163% rise in 2021 death-benefit payouts

The covid-19 pandemic is a complete fraud.

It was never a pandemic by definition and certainly the greatest fraud in the history of mankind by a profiteering Big Pharma, Big Government, legacy media and Big Tech in collusion, brainwashing while censoring and hiding facts and truth regarding the effectiveness of early treatment. Since if everyone had been treated with the effectiveness of MyFreeDoctor.com, at 4 deaths out of 150,000 (all of which sought treatment too late), then the million dead Americans could have theoretically have been just 27 dead since the beginning of the "pandemic", rather than the million dead because of homicidal liars such as yourself and other stakeholders of Big Pharma.
MyFreeDoctor.com has treated 150,000 COVID patients with a 99.99% success rate

Mass murder by the same moneygrubbing lying filth that seized control of your mind.
Mass Formation Psychosis - Same Thing Happening To U.S. As Nazi Germany

The virus was engineered in a lab in China and purposefully spread all across the planet with the intent to steal the 2020 election from Donald Trump.

Actually the virus was engineered by Ralph Baric with the University of North Carolina, and after Obama requested a pause on gain of function research, was offshored to Wuhan China along with taxpayer dollars. Not even Fauci will deny it was a created virus. You should find another source of news besides Rachael Madcow.
Should we be calling it the Wuhan Flu, CCP flu, Carolina Flu or the Fauci Flu?

"Covid-19 and the Global Predators: We are the Prey"
https://www.wearetheprey.com
Excerpt:  Page 59
"Working together, Dr. Baric and a large team of Chinese have developed a SARS-CoV virus that is probably the deadliest we have documented. It causes an inflammation of the brain (encephalitis) that kills Franken-mice who have implanted human receptors for the virus."
 
 

Cannonpointer » 04 Dec 2022, 11:17 am » wrote: ↑

04 Dec 2022, 11:17 am

So... herd immunity is ****? Hmmm...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykoRgfMP28w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeRsyWCM5gE&t=165s

1.  So **** what?   Both of these videos were made in 2020.  Science changes as the scientific method develops new information.

2.  I don't agree with everything Fauci says or has said.

Do you agree with everything Trump says?  With everything Alex Jones says?  With everything Kanye says?  With everything Marjorie Jew Spacelaser says?  With everything that **** wetback Fuentes says?

 

IkeBana » 04 Dec 2022, 2:34 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Dec 2022, 2:34 pm

1.  So **** what?   Both of these videos were made in 2020.  Science changes

Yes - at the speed of narrative, you **** moron. It changes at the speed of pharma's interests, you **** moron.

Science did not "change" when it stopped shilling for big tobacco, you stupid queer. It got called out.

We're calling it out - and its shills on the right are defending it, you deluded neocon.

freeman » 04 Dec 2022, 11:39 am » wrote: ↑

04 Dec 2022, 11:39 am

Actually the virus was engineered by Ralph Baric with the University of North Carolina, and after Obama requested a pause on gain of function research, was offshored to Wuhan China along with taxpayer dollars. 

I'm not in the habit of wasting my time in debates with MAGA/Q-ANON headcase conspiracy theorists.  But I will answer this one **** up point of yours...

Why Ralph Baric’s coronavirus research at UNC has spawned conspiracies theories

You are completely fulla Q-ANON ****.

Cannonpointer » 04 Dec 2022, 2:39 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Dec 2022, 2:39 pm

Yes - at the speed of narrative, you **** moron. It changes at the speed of pharma's interests, you **** moron.

Science did not "change" when it stopped shilling for big tobacco, you stupid queer. It got called out.

We're calling it out - and its shills on the right are defending it, you deluded neocon.

He has not a clue as to what science is, or he wouldn't remain in such abject ignorance, stuck with only parroting the evil of his masters as you pointed out.
THE applied SCIENCE of COVID-19 treatment
Irrelevance of trials VS 99+% success rates in evidenced-based medical practice
 
 

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freeman » 04 Dec 2022, 11:39 am » wrote: ↑

04 Dec 2022, 11:39 am

Actually the virus was engineered by Ralph Baric with the University of North Carolina, and after Obama requested a pause on gain of function research, was offshored to Wuhan China along with taxpayer dollars.

I'm not in the habit of wasting my time in debates with MAGA/Q-ANON headcase conspiracy theorists.  But I will answer this one **** up point of yours...

Why Ralph Baric’s coronavirus research at UNC has spawned conspiracies theories

You are completely fulla Q-ANON ****.

freeman (a stupid **** polack who has no clue about what freedom in America is actually all about), having been handed his *** on a **** plate, retreats to his home under the freeway overpass.
 
Free to live in a refrigerator box.

Cannonpointer » 04 Dec 2022, 2:39 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Dec 2022, 2:39 pm

Yes - at the speed of narrative, you **** moron. It changes at the speed of pharma's interests, you **** moron.

Science did not "change" when it stopped shilling for big tobacco, you stupid queer. It got called out.

We're calling it out - and its shills on the right are defending it, you deluded neocon.

Same playbook.
"But by far, the craftiest ruse was for the Tobacco Industry to pretend to embrace the research and set up their own studies. Because by controlling the study design, they could control the outcome."
Big Pharma uses Big Tobacco's strategy to defeat Ivermectin
"Medical journals: “information-laundering for Big Pharma”
 
 

freeman » 05 Dec 2022, 8:33 am » wrote: ↑

05 Dec 2022, 8:33 am

Same playbook.
Big Pharma uses Big Tobacco's strategy to defeat Ivermectin

Q-ANON ****, direct from the **** "Covid-19 Forum"  
 
 

IkeBana » 05 Dec 2022, 8:34 am » wrote: ↑

05 Dec 2022, 8:34 am

Q-ANON ****.

Ever unable to respond to the data and science, Big Pharma's little bi*ch Chatty Cathy 2! Reaches back and pulls her own string to barf out yet another one of her "18 different phrases" instead!



 
 

freeman » 05 Dec 2022, 8:33 am » wrote: ↑

05 Dec 2022, 8:33 am

Same playbook.
"But by far, the craftiest ruse was for the Tobacco Industry to pretend to embrace the research and set up their own studies. Because by controlling the study design, they could control the outcome."
Big Pharma uses Big Tobacco's strategy to defeat Ivermectin
"Medical journals: “information-laundering for Big Pharma”

There is only deception, now.

When the information incoming is unreliable, one must rely on one's heart and one's gut - one's very instincts.

I continue to use colloidal silver and colloidal gold - and I continue to believe that they are NOT killing my good bacteria.

Cannonpointer » 05 Dec 2022, 11:43 am » wrote: ↑

05 Dec 2022, 11:43 am

There is only deception, now.

When the information incoming is unreliable, one must rely on one's heart and one's gut - one's very instincts.

I continue to use colloidal silver and colloidal gold - and I continue to believe that they are NOT killing my good bacteria.

There is truth and science now, just as there has been since the beginning of the pandemic. It's just harder to find, through the fog of censorship.
THE applied SCIENCE of COVID-19 treatment

freeman » 05 Dec 2022, 1:10 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Dec 2022, 1:10 pm

There is truth and science now, just as there has been since the beginning of the pandemic. It's just harder to find, through the fog of censorship.
THE applied SCIENCE of COVID-19 treatment

Yes, BUT. Issues remain, even without the corruption of science. 

First, what IS science? It's an inquiry, sure - but there are gradations of quality. So, what is the gold standard?

Well, that's randomized testing across many thousands of people across many years - that is how we arrive at "Here is what's so."

Is that ever going to be done to test the efficacy of intermittent fasting on the cyancah? Who would fund that? 

Intermittent fasting DOES INDEED look promising against the cyancah. People fasting with chemo fare better than people NOT fasting with chemo. But there will never be tests without the chemo. The chemo is paying for the tests. Fasting isn't.

For profit science is never going to be honest - it can't be if it wants to, and it doesn't want to. 

That's not to say there isn't any value. It's just to say that science is not ever going to be entirely reliable. That isn't how it's practiced, in the best of times - and these are far from that. Science is on the town - a vagrant cadging meals at rich men's tables. 

Cannonpointer » 05 Dec 2022, 1:30 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Dec 2022, 1:30 pm

Yes, BUT. Issues remain, even without the corruption of science. 

First, what IS science? It's an inquiry, sure - but there are gradations of quality. So, what is the gold standard?

Healing virtually 100% of patients at home for $20 for over 2-1/2 years, with two different multi-drug/nutraceutical therapies, should be enough of a "gold standard". That is the science through the art and practice of evidenced based medicine by the scientific method.

While trials and studies are pretty much useless for an illness that manifests in 3 stages, each of which requires different/additional drugs/nutraceuticals, each of which would introduce another confounding variable to a study.
Irrelevance of trials VS 99+% success rates in evidenced-based medical practice

Studies and the journals that print them have become little more than “information-laundering for Big Pharma”, and defemation of generic drugs to advance patented medications. This resulted in the deaths of a million Americans and millions more worldwide.
EXCLUSIVE: The Lancet Study on Hydroxychloroquine Was a COMPLETE FRAUD
Covid-19 Has Turned Public Health Into a Lethal, Patient-Killing Experimental Enterprise

Well, that's randomized testing across many thousands of people across many years - that is how we arrive at "Here is what's so."

Is that ever going to be done to test the efficacy of intermittent fasting on the cyancah? Who would fund that? 

Intermittent fasting DOES INDEED look promising against the cyancah. People fasting with chemo fare better than people NOT fasting with chemo. But there will never be tests without the chemo. The chemo is paying for the tests. Fasting isn't.

For profit science is never going to be honest - it can't be if it wants to, and it doesn't want to. 

That's not to say there isn't any value. It's just to say that science is not ever going to be entirely reliable. That isn't how it's practiced, in the best of times - and these are far from that. Science is on the town - a vagrant cadging meals at rich men's tables.

The problem is that whole cloth lies and fraud are masquerading as science, to profit pharma, media, government agencies, political campaigns, hospitals, etc. etc.
Big Pharma's propaganda ministry, the FDA, horses around with IVM as COVID cure
What used to be called science will likely never happen again. Any more than medicine will be practiced (except by a few independents).
https://www.bitchute.com/video/WYzXqZKyCszY/
Same with Big Ag, food processing, etc.
 
 
 

freeman » 05 Dec 2022, 2:01 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Dec 2022, 2:01 pm

Healing virtually 100% of patients at home for $20 for over 2-1/2 years, with two different multi-drug/nutraceutical therapies, should be enough of a "gold standard". That is the science through the art of the practice of evidenced based medicine by the scientific method.

While trials and studies are pretty much useless for an illness that manifests in 3 stages, each of which requires different/additional drugs/nutraceuticals, each of which would introduce another confounding variable to a study.
Irrelevance of trials VS 99+% success rates in evidenced-based medical practice

Studies and the journals that print them have become little more than “information-laundering for Big Pharma”, and defemation of generic drugs to advance patented medications. This resulted in the deaths of a million Americans and millions more worldwide.
EXCLUSIVE: The Lancet Study on Hydroxychloroquine Was a COMPLETE FRAUD
Covid-19 Has Turned Public Health Into a Lethal, Patient-Killing Experimental Enterprise

The problem has become that whole cloth lies and fraud are masquerading as science, to profit pharma, media, government agencies, political campaigns, hospitals, etc. etc.
What used to be called science will never be again. Any more than medicine will be (except as practiced by a few independent exceptions).
https://www.bitchute.com/video/WYzXqZKyCszY/
Same with Big Ag, food processing, etc.

Well, what you're really talking about here is medicine - which, yes, is a branch of science. But "the" science is lying through its teeth about what medicine is doing - at the behest of pig farmer. 
 

Cannonpointer » 05 Dec 2022, 2:04 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Dec 2022, 2:04 pm

Well, what you're really talking about here is medicine - which, yes, is a branch of science. But "the" science is lying through its teeth about what medicine is doing - at the behest of pig farmer.

Engaging in science is what front line doctors have been doing, independently and collectively, since the beginning of the pandemic:

"Definition of science
1a : knowledge or a system of knowledge covering general truths or the operation of general laws especially as obtained and tested through scientific method"
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/science

"Definition of scientific method: principles and procedures for the systematic pursuit of knowledge involving the recognition and formulation of a problem, the collection of data through observation and experiment, and the formulation and testing of hypotheses"
https://www.merriam-webster.com/diction ... c%20method

For example this protocol, that was adopted around much of the world, including by entire nation states:

"My out-patient treatment regimen is as follows:

1. Hydroxychloroquine 200mg twice a day for 5 days
2. Azithromycin 500mg once a day for 5 days
3. Zinc sulfate 220mg once a day for 5 days

The rationale for my treatment plan is as follows. I combined the data available from China and South Korea with the recent study published from France (sites available on request). We know that hydroxychloroquine helps Zinc enter the cell. We know that Zinc slows viral replication within the cell. Regarding the use of azithromycin, I postulate it prevents secondary bacterial infections. These three drugs are well known and usually well tolerated, hence the risk to the patient is low.

Since last Thursday, my team has treated approximately 350 patients in Kiryas Joel and another 150 patients in other areas of New York with the above regimen.

Of this group and the information provided to me by affiliated medical teams, we have had ZERO deaths, ZERO hospitalizations, and ZERO intubations. In addition, I have not heard of any negative side effects other than approximately 10% of patients with temporary nausea and diarrhea."
Dr. Zelenko recommendations of 3-23-2020 - 500 patients 0 deaths 0 hospitalized

IkeBana » 04 Dec 2022, 8:56 am » wrote: ↑

04 Dec 2022, 8:56 am

I don't disagree.  What I want to hear out of you and your big lie brethren is that regardless of what we were told by Trumps nazi doctors, Ronny Jackson and Scott Atlas (our very own Josef Mengele and Ernst Rüdin), there's no such thing as herd immunity* with Covid.  We know from the charting of thousands of cases of post covid re-infection that the average length of time of post infection immunity is 90 days.

I forgot to address your stupidity in this.
"SARS-CoV-2 antibodies persist up to 12 months after natural infection in healthy employees working in non-medical contact-intensive professions"
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36436751/

"106 Research Studies Affirm Naturally Acquired Immunity to Covid-19: Documented, Linked, and Quoted
By Paul Elias Alexander   October 17, 2021"
https://brownstone.org/articles/79-rese ... nd-quoted/

While T-Cell immunity continues on - likely for a lifetime - like it did for the 1918 Spanish Flu epidemic.

"Researchers find long-lived immunity to 1918 pandemic virus"
"The people recruited for the study were 2 to 12 years old in 1918 and many recalled sick family members in their households, which suggests they were directly exposed to the virus, the authors report. The group found that 100% of the subjects had serum-neutralizing activity against the 1918 virus and 94% showed serologic reactivity to the 1918 hemagglutinin."
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspec ... emic-virus
 

IkeBana » 04 Dec 2022, 10:37 am » wrote: ↑

04 Dec 2022, 10:37 am

Yeah well...Covid-19 killed my brother in law in early November.  It set off a massive inflammatory response, a "cytokine storm" of blood clotting (which effects 15% of covid patients), and clots went to his colon.  Because he was sedated and on a ventilator he was unable to report any abdominal discomfort, and by the time the sepsis became apparent to the medical staff it had killed a foot of his colon, and the sepsis shut down everything.  He was healthy, worked out three times a week, no diabetes, no high blood pressure, nothing. 

So 44% asymptomatic covid patients didn't mean jack **** to him or his family.

"Yeah, well I knew a guy who......."

Anecdotes aren't peer reviewed studies.

DeezerShoove » 03 Dec 2022, 12:43 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Dec 2022, 12:43 pm

Whatever you say, quakey.

My circumstances, my decision.
I'm not afraid to admit what happened.

You can pretend to be on some pedestal-to-shame if you like.
All the **** conspiracies in the world cannot scare me from admitting to my own actions.
I'm sure there are now SCADS of people too **** to admit it.
Those can be your targets.  

---

No effects from the shots. None. You can't scare me with that.
Just had covid. Felt like ****. That is real.

So far your vax conspiracy lost the Reality Check.
Disease 1, vax 0.   

I must be LOSING IT! I'm starting to like Deezers quotes!
To me, HONESTY IS EVERYTHING! Praise Deezer!