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The last logic challenge I gave, you lefties failed miserably. Non-binary vs binary = binary - Liberal Forum Political Chat Room

Let's try another one. Here is the skeletal bare bones of it: 

Thesis: Gender and sex are the same.

Premise 1:   Take the color blue. We have different shades of blue. There's light blue, dark blue, midnight blue, etc...but it's still blue. Not red. Not yellow. Not purple. Regardless of the shade, it is always still blue. Males and females can have a spectrum within themselves, but they are still always male and female. There are masculine males and feminine (homos) males, but regardless of the spectrum, they are still male. Likewise, there a feminine females and masculine females (lesbos), but they are still female. 

Premise 2: Gender is just a spectrum within each sex. 

Thus, gender and sex are the same. 
 

Vegas » 04 Dec 2022, 2:50 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Dec 2022, 2:50 pm

The last logic challenge I gave, you lefties failed miserably. Non-binary vs binary = binary - Liberal Forum Political Chat Room

Let's try another one. Here is the skeletal bare bones of it: 

Thesis: Gender and sex are the same.

Premise 1:   Take the color blue. We have different shades of blue. There's light blue, dark blue, midnight blue, etc...but it's still blue. Not red. Not yellow. Not purple. Regardless of the shade, it is always still blue. Males and females can have a spectrum within themselves, but they are still always male and female. There are masculine males and feminine (homos) males, but regardless of the spectrum, they are still male. Likewise, there a feminine females and masculine females (lesbos), but they are still female. 

Premise 2: Gender is just a spectrum within each sex. 

Thus, gender and sex are the same.

Yer confusing Bv.     

roadkill » 04 Dec 2022, 2:54 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Dec 2022, 2:54 pm

Yer confusing Bv.   

He's still googling for his answer.

DeezerShoove » 04 Dec 2022, 3:19 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Dec 2022, 3:19 pm

He's still googling for his answer.

     

The word gender was actually only relevant to linguistics (masculine feminine or neuter nouns for example) until John money https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Money

John money was actually very weird...and he was  a pedophile.

but it is a bit ironic. His own ideology would be called sexist today

FOS » 04 Dec 2022, 3:25 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Dec 2022, 3:25 pm

The word gender was actually only relevant to linguistics (masculine feminine or neuter nouns for example) until John money https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Money

John money was actually very weird...and he was  a pedophile.

but it is a bit ironic. His own ideology would be called sexist today

That guy was a monster, may he burn in hell

DeezerShoove » 04 Dec 2022, 3:19 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Dec 2022, 3:19 pm

He's still googling for his answer.

He has a problem. In previous googles, he has already spewed about a "sexual spectrum." Vegas' thesis rather agrees, while **** on the ***'s insistence that there is some elusive, unnamed, un-definable third sex on that spectrum.

Poor beevee, in spite of a free university education, never understood the most basic rules of science. He never grasped that if you cannot DEFINE it, you cannot DEFEND it. 

Not just pervert beevee, but all of those who chip away at the meaning of woman are - to the very degree they deny the definition of woman - attacking women and women's rights. 
 

roadkill » 04 Dec 2022, 2:54 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Dec 2022, 2:54 pm

Yer confusing Bv.   

He couldn't get past the first 5 words.

Vegas » 04 Dec 2022, 2:50 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Dec 2022, 2:50 pm

The last logic challenge I gave, you lefties failed miserably. Non-binary vs binary = binary - Liberal Forum Political Chat Room

Let's try another one. Here is the skeletal bare bones of it: 

Thesis: Gender and sex are the same.

Premise 1:   Take the color blue. We have different shades of blue. There's light blue, dark blue, midnight blue, etc...but it's still blue. Not red. Not yellow. Not purple. Regardless of the shade, it is always still blue. Males and females can have a spectrum within themselves, but they are still always male and female. There are masculine males and feminine (homos) males, but regardless of the spectrum, they are still male. Likewise, there a feminine females and masculine females (lesbos), but they are still female. 

Premise 2: Gender is just a spectrum within each sex. 

Thus, gender and sex are the same.

word play isn’t logic. 

jack » 04 Dec 2022, 5:58 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Dec 2022, 5:58 pm

word play isn’t logic.

You are welcome to expand on how this is a word play. 

And because you say so, isn't a legit answer.

jack » 04 Dec 2022, 5:58 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Dec 2022, 5:58 pm

word play isn’t logic.

I believe that what Vegas is alerting us to is simply this: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Continuum_fallacy

FOS » 04 Dec 2022, 6:01 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Dec 2022, 6:01 pm

I believe that what Vegas is alerting us to is simply this: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Continuum_fallacy

I was going to use black/white as the logic before I chose the OP's argument. I thought it may be too difficult for the left. They have a hard time with abstract concepts, so I dumbed it down. 

Grey is a mix of black and white, so you can't say grey is independent of black/white or a separate color. You can have black/white without grey, but you can't have grey without black/white. They can't logically say there is an independent and separate gender when it is depending on the current two genders to produce the third. 

Vegas » 04 Dec 2022, 6:17 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Dec 2022, 6:17 pm

I was going to use black/white as the logic before I chose the OP's argument. I thought it may be too difficult for the left. They have a hard time with abstract concepts, so I dumbed it down. 

Grey is a mix of black and white, so you can't say grey is independent of black/white or a separate color. You can have black/white without grey, but you can't have grey without black/white. They can't logically say there is an independent and separate gender when it is depending on the current two genders to produce the third.

Sure. And this is a common logical error among leftists. They will also often try to arguevthat simply because mixed race people exist, there can be no black or white race. Same type of fallacy.

Cannonpointer » 04 Dec 2022, 5:28 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Dec 2022, 5:28 pm

He has a problem. In previous googles, he has already spewed about a "sexual spectrum." Vegas' thesis rather agrees, while **** on the ***'s insistence that there is some elusive, unnamed, un-definable third sex on that spectrum.

Poor beevee, in spite of a free university education, never understood the most basic rules of science. He never grasped that if you cannot DEFINE it, you cannot DEFEND it. 

Not just pervert beevee, but all of those who chip away at the meaning of woman are - to the very degree they deny the definition of woman - attacking women and women's rights.

I love a fitting analogy to help define the issue at hand.

The OP does a good job of that. It's so simple that Vegas has BlaVe confused.
As you said, the sexual spectrum was advanced by him so how can it be ignored?

 

Speaking of colors...
To make a fauxgina, a vivisectionist splits the penis to stuff it up inside.
Now the old joke about women: They're all pink on the inside.
Really? Is this true anymore?

 

 

jack » 04 Dec 2022, 5:58 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Dec 2022, 5:58 pm

word play isn’t logic.

Cosplay isn't logic either - but that doesn't stop ya, fruit loop. 

Vegas » 04 Dec 2022, 6:17 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Dec 2022, 6:17 pm

I was going to use black/white as the logic before I chose the OP's argument. I thought it may be too difficult for the left. They have a hard time with abstract concepts, so I dumbed it down. 

Grey is a mix of black and white, so you can't say grey is independent of black/white or a separate color. You can have black/white without grey, but you can't have grey without black/white. They can't logically say there is an independent and separate gender when it is depending on the current two genders to produce the third.

OH NOES! More "wordplay" (or "logic"). 

You'll upset Jack in the Box!  

Vegas » 04 Dec 2022, 2:50 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Dec 2022, 2:50 pm

The last logic challenge I gave, you lefties failed miserably. Non-binary vs binary = binary - Liberal Forum Political Chat Room

Let's try another one. Here is the skeletal bare bones of it: 

Thesis: Gender and sex are the same.

Premise 1:   Take the color blue. We have different shades of blue. There's light blue, dark blue, midnight blue, etc...but it's still blue. Not red. Not yellow. Not purple. Regardless of the shade, it is always still blue. Males and females can have a spectrum within themselves, but they are still always male and female. There are masculine males and feminine (homos) males, but regardless of the spectrum, they are still male. Likewise, there a feminine females and masculine females (lesbos), but they are still female. 

Premise 2: Gender is just a spectrum within each sex. 

Thus, gender and sex are the same.

Your logic has a flaw. You believe every feminine male to be gay and every masculine female to be a lesbian. That’s not remotely true. 

Meanwhile blue can mix with other colors and express itself differently. 

Thus gender can be expressed however one desires. Colors have no desires, they are just colors. 






 

FOS » 04 Dec 2022, 6:01 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Dec 2022, 6:01 pm

I believe that what Vegas is alerting us to is simply this: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Continuum_fallacy

I'm guessing you don't mean he's caught up in a fallacy of equating cultural attitudes with physical reality, but he is. Vega's argument can be accepted only if transgenders are play acting or confused. They're not.

FOS » 04 Dec 2022, 6:01 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Dec 2022, 6:01 pm

I believe that what Vegas is alerting us to is simply this: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Continuum_fallacy

On second thought, isn't that a precise fallacy in his argument, the fallacy of assuming an unbroken continuum between two genders?

Vegas » 04 Dec 2022, 2:50 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Dec 2022, 2:50 pm

The last logic challenge I gave, you lefties failed miserably. Non-binary vs binary = binary - Liberal Forum Political Chat Room

Let's try another one. Here is the skeletal bare bones of it: 

Thesis: Gender and sex are the same.

Premise 1:   Take the color blue. We have different shades of blue. There's light blue, dark blue, midnight blue, etc...but it's still blue. Not red. Not yellow. Not purple. Regardless of the shade, it is always still blue. Males and females can have a spectrum within themselves, but they are still always male and female. There are masculine males and feminine (homos) males, but regardless of the spectrum, they are still male. Likewise, there a feminine females and masculine females (lesbos), but they are still female. 

Premise 2: Gender is just a spectrum within each sex. 

Thus, gender and sex are the same. 
 

How many types of logic are their to debate a talking point with? Universal binary code is 0 or 1, correct? then why integers no greater than 0-9 without reusing 1-10 on the left side of a decimal point.

Kind of like a period separating sentences in a whole paragraph, on a whole page, in a whole book, debating the whole species, part of the whole food chain native to this atmosphere, of this one solar system, of this whole galaxy, in the whole universe of all galaxies combined in physical displacement evolving never duplicates what existing in plain sight again.

Everything reality does revolves to only going on now in series parallel displacement compounding the past into current events changing total sum details present.

Define eternity where genetic reproductions aren't being eternally separated by context, and promises of tomorrow? Every reality historically has been covering up now has always been eternity.

Why? for humanity's sake of the few governing everyone else into self destruction of their own ancestries currently taking place.