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SJConspirator » 28 Dec 2022, 11:27 am » wrote: ↑

28 Dec 2022, 11:27 am

I can't tell if you are sarcastically lauding research or praising willful ignorance.

IMO, being informed, doing research is a good thing, having educated opinion is good

He seems to be suggesting that all research is created equal.

It isn't.

There is research that involves critical thinking and there is "research" that does not.

An example would be the "research" which caused beevee to conclude that yes, women DO have penises. Did he"research?" Well, he googled. But did heTHINK? Did he view the results he accepted critically? No, sir. He did not.
 
 

Cannonpointer » 28 Dec 2022, 11:31 am » wrote: ↑

28 Dec 2022, 11:31 am

Now THAT is just mean spirited. 

I think he married the headmaster's daughter..

DeezerShoove » 28 Dec 2022, 9:32 am » wrote: ↑

28 Dec 2022, 9:32 am

"A bit of research" sounds like living by sound bite. Good for you.

How would you define your own style?

Blackvegetable » 28 Dec 2022, 11:34 am » wrote: ↑

28 Dec 2022, 11:34 am

I think he married the headmaster's daughter..

A man has a right to a beard in this cruel world.
 

Cannonpointer » 28 Dec 2022, 11:45 am » wrote: ↑

28 Dec 2022, 11:45 am

A man has a right to a beard in this cruel world.

And breasts...don't forget breasts. 

Selaphobia » 27 Dec 2022, 1:34 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Dec 2022, 1:34 pm

@B. See is a shill  you see this?

Haven't seen that one.  What about it?  

Selaphobia » 27 Dec 2022, 10:39 am » wrote: ↑

27 Dec 2022, 10:39 am

Yes, regardless the numbers don't line up. Look at this one

I don't really understand that one.  FOS lies a lot about credentials and his past, but I don't think he cares about site points and other logistics.  I am missing something?

Selaphobia » 28 Dec 2022, 12:39 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Dec 2022, 12:39 pm

558 post and 9K money??
do the math

I looked at the user LowIQTrash.  He has 46 posts and 10k money.  I then looked at his posts.  I don't see any post where he got more than a handful of votes.

I noticed that people's post counts change.  One guy had a thousand posts earlier this month, but now he has 400.  Gotta be a glitch.

SJConspirator » 28 Dec 2022, 11:27 am » wrote: ↑

28 Dec 2022, 11:27 am

I can't tell if you are sarcastically lauding research or praising willful ignorance.

IMO, being informed, doing research is a good thing, having educated opinion is good

First, we are in agreement on that being a good thing.

Basically, to blanket damn something would require more than "a bit".
I can see expressing a real dislike for what I found but,
I couldn't personally get so emotionally involved to damn them that intensely.
Starting a thread containing "analysis" and all...
Like months of research and polls and a team of experts came on board.

All because "a bit of research" . . . omitting, of course, "contempt prior to investigation".

DeezerShoove » 28 Dec 2022, 12:48 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Dec 2022, 12:48 pm

First, we are in agreement on that being a good thing.

Basically, to blanket damn something would require more than "a bit".
I can see expressing a real dislike for what I found but,
I couldn't personally get so emotionally involved to damn them that intensely.
Starting a thread containing "analysis" and all...
Like months of research and polls and a team of experts came on board.

All because "a bit of research" . . . omitting, of course, "contempt prior to investigation".

I see it as no different than the reams of ridicule and hate directed at CNN on this board.  He is just targeting media figures on YouTube.  Even Trump called the media the enemy of the people.  I harbor a good bit of contempt for American media in general.

Selaphobia » 28 Dec 2022, 12:38 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Dec 2022, 12:38 pm

74K points and 4K posts?
DID YOU READ WHAT I POSTED?

The guy has won post of the day 20 times - that's 20,000 rep points, right there. Here are all 20, in order:

digest.php?t=47071&u=2840

On top of that, he gets a hell of a lot of upvotes. One gets rep points awarded several ways on this board: per post, per view, per quote, per upvote. He brings it - gets viewed a lot, quoted a lot, upvoted a lot, and awarded POTD a lot.
 
 

Selaphobia » 28 Dec 2022, 12:39 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Dec 2022, 12:39 pm

558 post and 9K money??
do the math

That one, I cannot explain. He has never won POTD. It's possible someone gave him money. LowIQTrash has less than 50 posts but close to12 k in reppoints - but I know for a fact he was given money, because I gave it to him.

In the real world, he got my sister pregnant and didn't run out on her. He was the first guy to do that - and the ONLY white guy who ever got her pregnant. Well - white-ISH. Not your WRONG non-white. 
 
The long and short of it is, you raise my sister's *** babies, you get some starter rep.
 

DeezerShoove » 28 Dec 2022, 12:48 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Dec 2022, 12:48 pm

 . . . omitting, of course, "contempt prior to investigation".

There is no excuse for contempt prior to investigation. As soon as I know someone engages in that, I'm done with them. Not interested in finding out why - just done. 
 
 
 

Cannonpointer » 28 Dec 2022, 10:31 am » wrote: ↑

28 Dec 2022, 10:31 am

He's his own man - in no one's pocket. That's rare enough.

He calls out everyone - well, almost everyone - that I want to see called out. 

He pisses off everyone who pisses me off.

Well he definitely IS a firebrand...I recall he went on Tucker Carlson's Fox News segment when the Covid-19 scam was going on and he said they should be forgiving all student debt + forgiving all rent payments + UBI for at least a year, at which point TC was too shocked to reply (obviously the little snake is opposed to any of those). 

DeezerShoove » 28 Dec 2022, 12:48 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Dec 2022, 12:48 pm

First, we are in agreement on that being a good thing.

Basically, to blanket damn something would require more than "a bit".
I can see expressing a real dislike for what I found but,
I couldn't personally get so emotionally involved to damn them that intensely.
Starting a thread containing "analysis" and all...
Like months of research and polls and a team of experts came on board.

All because "a bit of research" . . . omitting, of course, "contempt prior to investigation".

I can assure you I have no "contempt prior to investigation" for any of them...I simply analyzed the quality of their arguments/if they made any content worth watching/if they have ulterior motives. I believe I am more than qualified to judge these personalities.

As for being emotionally involved, I could care less about their political leanings/their personal characteristics. For example, I believe I was MORE than fair by claiming JR covers just about everything but is quite shallow in that his cross-examinations are not particularly strong, which allows certain individuals like Tulsi Gabbard (member of the WEF's "Young Leaders") to get away with propaganda. Or that Bernie Sanders is attempting to "start a revolution" but then urges his voters to throw their weight behind the candidate with a (D) next to their name when Sanders inevitably loses the nomination. 

 
 

SJConspirator » 28 Dec 2022, 11:17 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Dec 2022, 11:17 pm

I see it as no different than the reams of ridicule and hate directed at CNN on this board.  He is just targeting media figures on YouTube.  Even Trump called the media the enemy of the people.  I harbor a good bit of contempt for American media in general.

I am sure you have it figured out already, but many others have not, so I'll have to explain myself to the rest of the gang (sigh).

YouTube is arguably the most popular platform nowadays, as people (even the dimmest of lightbulbs i.e. retards) have finally figured out paying $100+/month only to have their favorite shows littered with ads 40-50% of the running time is pretty bad...and a gigantic waste of time.

It might take these slow individuals several years before they also figure out something called "Adblock" exists, so I guess not all hope is lost for corporations and online businesses desperately trying to shove ads into their face while they transition to YouTube.

Anyway, I digress - many YouTube personalities garner millions of views per video, which is roughly comparable to the ratings enjoyed by popular TV political talking heads. So I believe it's fair for me to critique their style as well as substance since so many people rely on them as a source of information.

LowIQTrash » 29 Dec 2022, 1:27 am » wrote: ↑

29 Dec 2022, 1:27 am

Well he definitely IS a firebrand...I recall he went on Tucker Carlson's Fox News segment when the Covid-19 scam was going on and he said they should be forgiving all student debt + forgiving all rent payments + UBI for at least a year, at which point TC was too shocked to reply (obviously the little snake is opposed to any of those).

Yup. He don't play nice with ANYBODY. That's why I like him. He is his own man. He speaks his own truth. He cares not a whit for how this claque or that clique or those who cluck clock his clunky clobbering. "Let them clamor," he intones - "let my clarifications clabber into clostridiums, and let their clericalisms suffer claudications, for my sake." 

"Let the clodhoppers and claim-jumping climatolo-frauds cling to their claustrophobic claptrap - my words will clang and cling and cloy to their closestools." He's a closetful with a clipboard, and he's willing to clash with and clobber the clodpoles and klingons.

Selaphobia » 29 Dec 2022, 8:58 am » wrote: ↑

29 Dec 2022, 8:58 am

no need to look at this guy. I gave him 8K for Christmas

Well, then, have some cash.
 

LowIQTrash » 29 Dec 2022, 1:31 am » wrote: ↑

29 Dec 2022, 1:31 am

I can assure you I have no "contempt prior to investigation" for any of them...I simply analyzed the quality of their arguments/if they made any content worth watching/if they have ulterior motives. I believe I am more than qualified to judge these personalities.

As for being emotionally involved, I could care less about their political leanings/their personal characteristics. For example, I believe I was MORE than fair by claiming JR covers just about everything but is quite shallow in that his cross-examinations are not particularly strong, which allows certain individuals like Tulsi Gabbard (member of the WEF's "Young Leaders") to get away with propaganda. Or that Bernie Sanders is attempting to "start a revolution" but then urges his voters to throw their weight behind the candidate with a (D) next to their name when Sanders inevitably loses the nomination.

Now you call them "personalities".
So, what deep-thinker qualities do you expect from a quasi-celebrity "personality"?

They are obviously interesting personalities for lots of people to listen to repeatedly.
As such, they become easy targets to pick at. They're performers, not political experts.

Isn't your critique attempting to be Chris Kyle complaining about Moe's aim with a pie?

DeezerShoove » 29 Dec 2022, 11:56 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Dec 2022, 11:56 pm

Now you call them "personalities".
So, what deep-thinker qualities do you expect from a quasi-celebrity "personality"?

They are obviously interesting personalities for lots of people to listen to repeatedly.
As such, they become easy targets to pick at. They're performers, not political experts.

Isn't your critique attempting to be Chris Kyle complaining about Moe's aim with a pie?

If they were amateurs or if they displayed that level of humility, then I would avoid heaping criticism on them. However, as per Dunning Kruger syndrome, many of them are not like that, and in fact, seem very confident in their (alleged) abilities. 

Roleplaying as a quasi-celebrity personality and being semi-decent at serious political commentary shouldn't be mutually exclusive. I have pretty stratospheric standards so what others may choose to overlook/find acceptable, I would not.

When you scroll down into the comments section heaping praise on someone like...Candace Owens (who I believe was funded by a Jewish talent agency, which is how she catapulted to fame almost overnight - National Justice Investigates: Rising Republican Party Influencers Got Their Start At Talent Agency Run By Israeli Pornographer, by Eric Striker - The Unz Review), who simply repeats the talking points her masters have told her to spew, I die a bit inside. Or I guffaw. 

Depends on the day/mood.