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ZiggyX » 28 Dec 2022, 8:35 am » wrote: ↑

28 Dec 2022, 8:35 am

I visualize a 100 freight car train loaded with those born east of the Rockies being transported to Maine.
After dropping them off, burn the train so they can't return.  That would be a start.

Only the white ones. I am sure California would look even more like Somalia than it already does today. 
 

Neo » 27 Dec 2022, 8:31 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Dec 2022, 8:31 pm

California is in debt and dependent on Western states for water. You can't drink fashion or movies.

Who will defend California's coast...the homeless? People are leaving Cal. by the hundreds of thousands.

ZiggyX » 27 Dec 2022, 5:24 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Dec 2022, 5:24 pm

"“California's values and entrepreneurial spirit have powered this ascent to becoming the 4th biggest economy in the world, and we'll continue doubling down on industries of the future, like renewables and clean energy."
https://www.gov.ca.gov/2022/10/24/icymi ... t-economy/

Memo to Trump Toadies:
"SACRAMENTO – According to Bloomberg, California is poised to overtake Germany as the world’s 4th largest economy, continuing to outperform the nation and other countries in GDP growth, companies’ market value, renewable energy and more."

And yet the exodus continues.  

California's Population Declines for Third Straight YearThe population of California has fallen for the third straight year as exorbitant costs and declining quality of life have led to increasing numbers of people leaving the Golden State. 

Data published by the U.S. Census Bureau found that despite births outnumbering deaths and the arrival of over 125,000 immigrants, the state's population shrank again as more than 300,000 moved out of the state. Between July 2021 and July 2022, the number of people fell from 39,142,991 to 39,029,342 — a fall of around 114,000 people. 

https://ktla.com/news/california/califo ... shrinking/
 
 

Vegas » 27 Dec 2022, 4:21 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Dec 2022, 4:21 pm

In short, the former president of Russia, Medvedev, predicted that in 2023 there will be a civil war in the US over the succession of California and Texas. Musk will become president, and he will be credited for ending the war. Musk Laughed. 

Two things:
1. These two states have been threatening succession for decades. Neither have even come close to making an attempt. 
2. Most, if not all, of the Western states, especially my beloved state, couldn't care less if California left. So which states are going to fight them? We would send off California with a party.

Some years back, i signed a petition to establish the State of Jefferson in. N. California so we could get away from the ASSHOLES in S. Cal. It failed. But N.Cal produces most all the lumber, gold, farming and ranch products, and mostly WATER, which S. Cal has little of.  
 

ZiggyX » 27 Dec 2022, 10:51 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Dec 2022, 10:51 pm

"We make clean, safe water from a drought-proof source - the ocean"
https://www.carlsbaddesal.com

"Currently, there are 12 existing desalination facilities throughout California."
https://www.waterboards.ca.gov/water_is ... alination/

"The Carlsbad desalination project in San Diego County, California US, is the largest desalination plant in the western hemisphere."
https://www.water-technology.net/projec ... alination/

Desal covers a fraction of the usage of a fraction of residences. It's a blip.

It SHOULD be providing water for agriculture - but there is no leadership in that blue lagoon of blue goons. 
 

Neo » 28 Dec 2022, 12:00 am » wrote: ↑

28 Dec 2022, 12:00 am

Currently supplying less than 5% of the demand.

Of the RESIDENTIAL demand. 

The percent drops off a cliff if you look at industrial, recreational, commercial, and agricultural demand. 
 
 

ZiggyX » 28 Dec 2022, 8:03 am » wrote: ↑

28 Dec 2022, 8:03 am

There's also the 'Deport the Foreigners' plan.   That will help.
Anyone NOT born in California is deported back to where they came from.

It would certainly show the state's true colors.

"You ain't from around here" is precisely what the **** hole is allabout, these days. 

We'll stand by and see whether your idea to get rid of mexicans takes hold, fruity. 
 

Cannonpointer » 28 Dec 2022, 12:17 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Dec 2022, 12:17 pm

Of the RESIDENTIAL demand. 

The percent drops off a cliff if you look at insustrial, recreational, commercial, and agricultural demand.

Yeah, I should have put in an asterisk. Ag demand dwarfs residential but those are Trump voters so **** em. 
 

Huey » 28 Dec 2022, 11:31 am » wrote: ↑

28 Dec 2022, 11:31 am

And yet the exodus continues.  

California's Population Declines for Third Straight YearThe population of California has fallen for the third straight year as exorbitant costs and declining quality of life have led to increasing numbers of people leaving the Golden State. 

Data published by the U.S. Census Bureau found that despite births outnumbering deaths and the arrival of over 125,000 immigrants, the state's population shrank again as more than 300,000 moved out of the state. Between July 2021 and July 2022, the number of people fell from 39,142,991 to 39,029,342 — a fall of around 114,000 people. 

https://ktla.com/news/california/califo ... shrinking/

SEEE!
Prayer DOES work.

According to the California Energy Commission, in state generation of electricity makes up only 70% of the electricity they consume (194,127 GWh out of 277,764 GWh). That could present a problem if the other states decided to "make up for lost revenue" by quadrupling the prices charged to Kalifornistan.  
 
 

Cannonpointer » 28 Dec 2022, 12:15 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Dec 2022, 12:15 pm

Desal covers a fraction of the usage of a fraction of residences. It's a blip.

It SHOULD be providing water for agriculture - but there is no leadership in that blue lagoon of blue goons.

News Flash:  The Ocean is on the Coast.  

ConsRule » 28 Dec 2022, 12:36 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Dec 2022, 12:36 pm

According to the California Energy Commission, in state generation of electricity makes up only 70% of the electricity they consume (194,127 GWh out of 277,764 GWh). That could present a problem if the other states decided to "make up for lost revenue" by quadrupling the prices charged to Kalifornistan.

"California runs on 100% clean energy for the first time, with solar dominating"
https://electrek.co/2022/05/02/californ ... ominating/

"Energy demand statewide reached 18,672 megawatts at 2:45 pm, with 37,172 MW available. (Excess is exported to neighboring states.) 101% of the power provided came from clean energy, according to a continuous tracker provided by California Independent System Operator (CAISO), a nonprofit that oversees the operation of the state’s bulk electric power system, transmission lines, and electricity market generated and transmitted by its member utilities."

ConsRule.  Admit you are a graduate of Trump University.

nuckinfutz » 28 Dec 2022, 12:07 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Dec 2022, 12:07 pm

Some years back, i signed a petition to establish the State of Jefferson in. N. California so we could get away from the ASSHOLES in S. Cal. It failed. But N.Cal produces most all the lumber, gold, farming and ranch products, and mostly WATER, which S. Cal has little of.

I remember when that petition was going on. I was hoping it worked, because N.Cal and S Cal are so different.

ZiggyX » 28 Dec 2022, 12:44 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Dec 2022, 12:44 pm

"California runs on 100% clean energy for the first time, with solar dominating"
https://electrek.co/2022/05/02/californ ... ominating/

"Energy demand statewide reached 18,672 megawatts at 2:45 pm, with 37,172 MW available. (Excess is exported to neighboring states.) 101% of the power provided came from clean energy, according to a continuous tracker provided by California Independent System Operator (CAISO), a nonprofit that oversees the operation of the state’s bulk electric power system, transmission lines, and electricity market generated and transmitted by its member utilities."

ConsRule.  Admit you are a graduate of Trump University.

According to your link...that happened on one day.

Here is my source.

https://www.energy.ca.gov/data-reports/ ... generation

While my point was the state doesn't generate all their electricity in state...I seriously doubt that in one year they replaced 98,153 GWh of electricity from fossil fuels sources with 100% clean energy.  I understand the data is from 2021...but remember 2022 isn't over yet.


 

Vegas » 27 Dec 2022, 4:21 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Dec 2022, 4:21 pm

In short, the former president of Russia, Medvedev, predicted that in 2023 there will be a civil war in the US over the succession of California and Texas. Musk will become president, and he will be credited for ending the war. Musk Laughed. 

Two things:
1. These two states have been threatening succession for decades. Neither have even come close to making an attempt. 
2. Most, if not all, of the Western states, especially my beloved state, couldn't care less if California left. So which states are going to fight them? We would send off California with a party.

He made a lot of very silly predictions...alarmingly improbable. 

I would expect such an important guy to have abetter grasp on what things are likely
 

FOS » 28 Dec 2022, 2:17 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Dec 2022, 2:17 pm

He made a lot of very silly predictions...alarmingly improbable. 

I would expect such an important guy to have abetter grasp on what things are likely

He is probably looking at it through the lens of his own nation's chaos. 

Vegas » 28 Dec 2022, 2:20 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Dec 2022, 2:20 pm

He is probably looking at it through the lens of his own nation's chaos.

but even Russian politics should inform him better.

he ought to know, for example, that NATO would NEVER allow a german fourth reich to exist lol

ConsRule » 28 Dec 2022, 1:31 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Dec 2022, 1:31 pm

According to your link...that happened on one day.

Here is my source.

https://www.energy.ca.gov/data-reports/ ... generation

While my point was the state doesn't generate all their electricity in state...I seriously doubt that in one year they replaced 98,153 GWh of electricity from fossil fuels sources with 100% clean energy.  I understand the data is from 2021...but remember 2022 isn't over yet.

"Top 10 Biggest Solar Farms in the USA 2021"
https://www.solarfeeds.com/mag/solar-farms-in-the-usa/

 

ZiggyX » 28 Dec 2022, 2:40 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Dec 2022, 2:40 pm

"Top 10 Biggest Solar Farms in the USA 2021"
https://www.solarfeeds.com/mag/solar-farms-in-the-usa/

Keep trying, *******.  I remain confident that one day you will have the intelligence to actually read and comprehend what others post...but my confidence is waning.

Don't read what you think people post...read what they actually post.  Most of us try to use small words so people like you can understand.
 

ConsRule » 28 Dec 2022, 3:03 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Dec 2022, 3:03 pm

Keep trying, *******.  I remain confident that one day you will have the intelligence to actually read and comprehend what others post...but my confidence is waning.

Don't read what you think people post...read what they actually post.  Most of us try to use small words so people like you can understand.

--->'Rome wasn't built in a day'.