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My favorite Bullpup rifle ever made:  K&M M17s, in .308.

• No plastic - solid extruded aluminum upper receiver; milled aluminum lower receiver.
• Professional, adjustable trigger - here is a close up of the fire control parts and adjustable trigger:
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• Many parts interchange with AR-10, like extractors, springs, etc.
• Triangular steel Bolt is over-engineered to resist ware and breakage, but operate smoothly and efficiently.
• Bold carrier is solid steel, bullet-proof and a "never ware" item.  Here is a photo of the triangular bolt sitting in the bolt carrier - yes, it has 2 ejectors - -just in case. And, a heavy duty extractor.
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• Adjustable gas system
• Shortest length 308 legally available without it being a registered SBR
• Grip is interchangeable with other AR grips on the market.

This is by far one of my favorite rifles.  Shoots like a dream, accurate and very reliable.
 

America's Real Machine Gun.  Here is Ruger's AC556, the ONLY factory-produced machine gun manufactured in the United States that could be purchased by civilians. Yeah, the **** now at Ruger would like to have you forget that this ever existed.


All steel and wood, it fires the same 5.56 cartridge as an AR-15.  Can be made as accurate as an AR-15, but that will cost you $800 to replace the barrel and gas block by AccuracySystems.

FYI - these things used to only cost $2,500 in the early 2000's.  Now, they are pushing $18K.
 
 

Skans » 31 Mar 2023, 8:41 am » wrote: ↑

31 Mar 2023, 8:41 am

America's Real Machine Gun.  Here is Ruger's AC556, the ONLY factory-produced machine gun manufactured in the United States that could be purchased by civilians. Yeah, the **** now at Ruger would like to have you forget that this ever existed.


All steel and wood, it fires the same 5.56 cartridge as an AR-15.  Can be made as accurate as an AR-15, but that will cost you $800 to replace the barrel and gas block by AccuracySystems.

FYI - these things used to only cost $2,500 in the early 2000's.  Now, they are pushing $18K.

I have a few Rugers. Am I supposed to hate them now?

Skans » 31 Mar 2023, 8:41 am » wrote: ↑

31 Mar 2023, 8:41 am

America's Real Machine Gun.  Here is Ruger's AC556, the ONLY factory-produced machine gun manufactured in the United States that could be purchased by civilians. Yeah, the **** now at Ruger would like to have you forget that this ever existed.


All steel and wood, it fires the same 5.56 cartridge as an AR-15.  Can be made as accurate as an AR-15, but that will cost you $800 to replace the barrel and gas block by AccuracySystems.

FYI - these things used to only cost $2,500 in the early 2000's.  Now, they are pushing $18K.

Wow, That Ruger just made me sport wood!
A Tommy Gun might give me an entire cord.   
 

DeezerShoove » 31 Mar 2023, 9:08 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Mar 2023, 9:08 pm

I have a few Rugers. Am I supposed to hate them now?

No.  I like Ruger, and I have an AC556. I also have a Ruger Single-Ten revolver, and a Mark II.  All very sturdy guns. What I don't like is Ruger no longer supporting the AC556 - I'm sure they did this more for political reasons than any other reason.  With AC556 parts sets running about $1,500+, they could easily make money selling parts to keep these guns going.
 

DeplorablePatriot » 31 Mar 2023, 9:56 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Mar 2023, 9:56 pm

Wow, That Ruger just made me sport wood!
A Tommy Gun might give me an entire cord. 

As much as I love the look of the Tommy Gun, particularly the model 1928A1, I actually prefer the AC556.  Fires a rifle cartridge (5.56) as opposed to a pistol round (45).  Still, I really wouldn't mind adding a Tommy Gun to my collection.  I almost bought a semi-auto version in 1989 - when Auto Ordnance was making them in West Hurley.  Wish I bought it, but $600 was expensive for me at that time.  They were better made and finished than when Kahr took it over. 
 

Hey, any of you looking for a super slim, small 9mm 1911 - well here you go. The STI LS9. Bid is at about $500 on Gunbroker.


I can carry its stronger brother, the LS40 in a wallet holster.

I screwed up not buying this sweet piece when they were selling for $1,100.

Skans » 26 Mar 2023, 8:04 am » wrote: ↑

26 Mar 2023, 8:04 am

For once, I'd like to see an American company steal a Chinese gun design, make it better and let us have a laugh at China for a change.

You mean steal back our idea and improve their modifications?

Skans » 06 Apr 2023, 1:16 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Apr 2023, 1:16 pm

I screwed up not buying this sweet piece when they were selling for $1,100.

That's one ugly mofugga.

Skans » 06 Apr 2023, 1:16 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Apr 2023, 1:16 pm

I screwed up not buying this sweet piece when they were selling for $1,100.

I've screwed up by selling guns. BIG TIME. I bought a NIB Coonan Classic when they were $1,200. Ran perfectly. Sold it. Now LNIB, around $3K.

Skans » 06 Apr 2023, 1:10 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Apr 2023, 1:10 pm

Hey, any of you looking for a super slim, small 9mm 1911 - well here you go. The STI LS9. Bid is at about $500 on Gunbroker.


I can carry its stronger brother, the LS40 in a wallet holster.

I've seen 4 compact 1911's, had two, and none of them ever ran right. one was a colt defender and the other a Rock Island.
 

Skans » 06 Apr 2023, 1:16 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Apr 2023, 1:16 pm

I screwed up not buying this sweet piece when they were selling for $1,100.

What is it?

DeezerShoove » 09 Apr 2023, 7:37 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Apr 2023, 7:37 pm

What is it?

I was wondering the same thing. Not to be rude, but that's one butt ugly gun! 
All in the eyes of the beholder, I guess.

DeezerShoove » 09 Apr 2023, 7:37 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Apr 2023, 7:37 pm

What is it?

Silencerco Maxim 9mm.  It's an integrally suppressed 9mm, and the suppressor can be shortened.
 

Skans » 10 Apr 2023, 10:10 am » wrote: ↑

10 Apr 2023, 10:10 am

Silencerco Maxim 9mm.  It's an integrally suppressed 9mm, and the suppressor can be shortened.

I figured it was a suppressor.
Doesn't seem ugly to me. A suppressor is all about expansion and its management.
Knowing there needs to be a "can" for that takes a lot of the ugly out.   

Thanks.

DeezerShoove » 10 Apr 2023, 4:03 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Apr 2023, 4:03 pm

I figured it was a suppressor.
Doesn't seem ugly to me. A suppressor is all about expansion and its management.
Knowing there needs to be a "can" for that takes a lot of the ugly out.   

Thanks.

I like it because its integral.  It can be shortened quite a bit and still work.  Also, handguns with 7" tubes screwed into the muzzle sort of defeats the purpose of having a handgun. Cool in the movies, but kind of worthless in real life.
 

Skans » 10 Apr 2023, 5:08 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Apr 2023, 5:08 pm

I like it because its integral.  It can be shortened quite a bit and still work.  Also, handguns with 7" tubes screwed into the muzzle sort of defeats the purpose of having a handgun. Cool in the movies, but kind of worthless in real life.

The "integral" part must mean there's parts available for the suppressor.
Those become sacrificial over time. Unless there's something I'm missing.
The baffles take a real beating.

DeezerShoove » 10 Apr 2023, 5:27 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Apr 2023, 5:27 pm

The "integral" part must mean there's parts available for the suppressor.
Those become sacrificial over time. Unless there's something I'm missing.
The baffles take a real beating.

That's a good point. While I'm sure the baffles can be repaired/replaced by the manufacturer, it's not like you're going to be able to do it yourself. You would need to send the gun back to the manufacturer to have the work done.  And, if the MFG is out of business, you may be out of luck. I probably wouldn't make this gun my favorite "range toy".  I would use it for home defense.
 

Here's a 10mm handgun I'd love to get my hands on: