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murdock » 28 Aug 2025, 2:52 pm » wrote: Only fools carry a pistol without a round chambered. Try loading a round in the chamber with one hand. Israeli carry is stupid.
Depends where you are and what you are doing. Both ways have their place.
 
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DeezerShoove » 29 Aug 2025, 3:45 pm » wrote: Depends where you are and what you are doing. Both ways have their place.

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DeezerShoove » 29 Aug 2025, 3:45 pm » wrote: Depends where you are and what you are doing. Both ways have their place.

Nonsense. 
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Lol, asking to be shot. But hey, it looks good when YOU do it!
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You don't know **** about it then.
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DeezerShoove » 29 Aug 2025, 9:12 pm » wrote: You don't know **** about it then.
Nonsense
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PlumHollow » 14 Feb 2023, 9:45 am » wrote: I don't keep one in the pipe.
I figure I'm no quick draw artist anyway and whatever I'm doing I will interrupt.
Then I can use both hands and maybe that is the pause that calms me down. Like counting to ten but way shorter.

You're carrying an unloaded gun. Smooth move.
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Skans » 04 Mar 2025, 11:44 am » wrote:
murdock » 04 Mar 2025, 11:19 am » wrote: It's also called unloaded.
It is what it is.  I don't consider a gun with a full magazine loaded into the gun, but no round chambered "unloaded". 

In fact, the Federal and most State laws would back me up on this.  Under federal law, a firearm is typically considered "unloaded" when the chamber is clear, and the magazine is removed or empty. In some states, the definition may go further to require that the firearm not be capable of being readily fired, such as ensuring that the weapon is not in a condition where a round could be quickly chambered.

In actuality, it is a loaded handgun, without a round chambered, i.e. "Israeli Carry".  There's a reason why this condition was given this name. It more accurately defines the condition of the gun.

 
 

 

In Utah the definition of unloaded means there is no round in the chamber and you have to take at least two mechanical actions to make the gun fire.  For a semi auto you would have to rack the slide and squeeze the trigger.
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*Huey » 30 Aug 2025, 11:19 am » wrote: In Utah the definition of unloaded means there is no round in the chamber and you have to take at least two mechanical actions to make the gun fire.  For a semi auto you would have to rack the slide and squeeze the trigger.

Murdock thinks he's in a 1960's western.

All I have is experience working in Detroit for many years.
Having a **** hothead one finger-twitch away from a discharge is not necessarily making me feel safer.
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*Huey » 30 Aug 2025, 11:19 am » wrote: In Utah the definition of unloaded means there is no round in the chamber and you have to take at least two mechanical actions to make the gun fire.  For a semi auto you would have to rack the slide and squeeze the trigger.
Goodness, these spineless cowards delete topics that prove how full of crap they are faster then I can keep up with!
 
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DeezerShoove » 30 Aug 2025, 1:57 pm » wrote: Murdock thinks he's in a 1960's western.

All I have is experience working in Detroit for many years.
Having a **** hothead one finger-twitch away from a discharge is not necessarily making me feel safer.
Then perhaps you shouldn't work with poorly train **** idiots! But regardless, you're a **** idiot and have no idea what I think. Keep carrying an unloaded gun.
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murdock » 30 Aug 2025, 9:24 am » wrote: You're carrying an unloaded gun. Smooth move.
All it takes is a smooth move and it's loaded.
No big deal.
Have you ever been a tenth of a second away from drawing to having to fire your weapon? Ever in your life? Do you even know somebody that's been that close? Or died because that tenth of a second wasted all the time needed to defend themselves?
 
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PlumHollow » 30 Aug 2025, 2:05 pm » wrote: All it takes is a smooth move and it's loaded.
No big deal.
Have you ever been a tenth of a second away from drawing to having to fire your weapon? Ever in your life? Do you even know somebody that's been that close? Or died because that tenth of a second wasted all the time needed to defend themselves?
The only smooth move you've had is 30 minutes after taking ex-lax.
But try loading that pistol with one hand, ex-lax.

But by all means, keep defending carrying unloaded guns. No doubt the people around you are a lot safer for it.
 
 
 
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murdock » 30 Aug 2025, 2:07 pm » wrote: Try doing it with one hand you fool. But by all means, keep defending carrying unloaded guns. No doubt the people around you are a lot safer for it.

Didn't think so. Stay paranoid, hothead.
This line of posts is done. Don't bother replying with insults and no input.
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PlumHollow » 30 Aug 2025, 2:10 pm » wrote: Didn't think so. Stay paranoid, hothead.
This line of posts is done. Don't bother replying with insults and no input.
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Awwww now the proven fool runs off and hides, just like most fools caught being stupid. Lol, paranoid is carrying a gun with a round in the chamber? Man you are stupid, and you have proven it well!
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DeezerShoove » 29 Aug 2025, 9:12 pm » wrote: You don't know **** about it then.
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murdock » 30 Aug 2025, 2:21 pm » wrote: Awwww now the proven fool runs off and hides, just like most fools caught being stupid. Lol, paranoid is carrying a gun with a round in the chamber? Man you are stupid, and you have proven it well!

I don't run, but do pay attention. I maintained both ways have validity. Your chosen path is to call people stupid if they don't do things your way only. Since you're a genius and the only way people can know you or get an impression of you is via these text messages, why are you so disrespected here? Has your insight and communication skills failed to convey that genius?
Since many people EDC without one in the pipe, how can it be so absolutely wrong? Maybe you aren't a genius. All talk. Please relax and let others have an opinion too.
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PlumHollow » 30 Aug 2025, 5:24 pm » wrote: I don't run, but do pay attention. I maintained both ways have validity. Your chosen path is to call people stupid if they don't do things your way only. Since you're a genius and the only way people can know you or get an impression of you is via these text messages, why are you so disrespected here? Has your insight and communication skills failed to convey that genius?
Since many people EDC without one in the pipe, how can it be so absolutely wrong? Maybe you aren't a genius. All talk. Please relax and let others have an opinion too.
Lol, typical *******. anyone carrying an unloaded gun is stupid. End of story.  Now carry that useless gun at your own risk.
 
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PlumHollow » 30 Aug 2025, 2:10 pm » wrote: Didn't think so. Stay paranoid, hothead.
This line of posts is done. Don't bother replying with insults and no input.
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You shoulda just stopped at "dont think". Go ahead, carry your unloaded gun. I'm sure the police do the same thing. lol, carrying a loaded gun is not being paranoid, it's refusing to be stupid.
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murdock » 30 Aug 2025, 5:29 pm » wrote: You shoulda just stopped at "dont think". Go ahead, carry your unloaded gun. I'm sure the police do the same thing. lol, carrying a loaded gun is not being paranoid, it's refusing to be stupid.
You are worthless here. Whoever put up that picture of your brain on your face is genius.
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