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DeplorablePatriot » 11 Mar 2023, 9:01 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Mar 2023, 9:01 pm

I have everything I NEED.
But...I HAD to have this little Seecamp .32 ACP. 
Probably one of the most well-made BUGs I've seen. All stainless.
Will only run hollow points, because ball ammo is a tad too long for the mag.
People can laugh at a modern self-defense .32 ACP round until they are hit a few times from a few feet away. 

I wouldn't want to be hit with a .32acp.  For that matter, I wouldn't want to be hit with a .25acp either. Way more energy than anything fired out of most pellet guns, and I wouldn't want to be hit by a pellet either!  A .32 deployed quickly and aimed accurately will get the job done.
 
 

Skans » 13 Mar 2023, 1:11 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Mar 2023, 1:11 pm

I wouldn't want to be hit with a .32acp.  For that matter, I wouldn't want to be hit with a .25acp either. Way more energy than anything fired out of most pellet guns, and I wouldn't want to be hit by a pellet either!  A .32 deployed quickly and aimed accurately will get the job done.

Yep. I saw a .32 ACP round penetration video with modern ammo. Went through ribs and into lungs. NO THANK YOU!  

 Skans
I wouldn't want to be hit with a .32acp.  For that matter, I wouldn't want to be hit with a .25acp either. Way more energy than anything fired out of most pellet guns, and I wouldn't want to be hit by a pellet either!  A .32 deployed quickly and aimed accurately will get the job done.

These will do the job also
 

Makallbuks » 13 Mar 2023, 6:47 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Mar 2023, 6:47 pm

These will do the job also

Is one made by the Orkin corp.?

Makallbuks » 13 Mar 2023, 6:47 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Mar 2023, 6:47 pm

These will do the job also

I like the Smith Model 10 with a baseball bat silencer.
 

Makallbuks » 13 Mar 2023, 6:47 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Mar 2023, 6:47 pm

These will do the job also

For when you just have to have a scoped,

 
 

SOME PEOPLE SAY I'M UGLY,
BUT IF I WERE A WOMAN
YOU'D KEEP ME AROUND  
 

 YOUR DREAM WOMAN
WHICH TURNED OUT TO BE NOTHING MORE THAN
A COMPUTER GENERATED BOT  

Skans » 15 Mar 2023, 9:17 am » wrote: ↑

15 Mar 2023, 9:17 am

SOME PEOPLE SAY I'M UGLY,
BUT IF I WERE A WOMAN
YOU'D KEEP ME AROUND
FOR MY WORLD-CLASS BLOW JOBS

Nice! Does that DW have a threaded barrel?
 

DeplorablePatriot » 15 Mar 2023, 10:09 am » wrote: ↑

15 Mar 2023, 10:09 am

Nice! Does that DW have a threaded barrel?

Actually, it does have a threaded barrel, and it might be possible to thread a silencer on it with an adapter.  But, a silencer on this type of revolver would be pretty much useless.   These early Model 11 Dan Wesson's (and model 12's) are sometimes referred to as "pork-chop" barrels (barrel shroud looks like a pork chop) our exposed barrel nut DW's.   I have one with a very low serial number on it - looks just like the one in the picture and it still has the original box. It actually has a very nice deep blued finish on it, excellent double-action trigger and nice crisp trigger when shot single action as well.

I refer to my DW as "Big Black" - one of the few handguns of mine that my wife wanted to pilfer from me for her own personal protection.  Felt good in her hand and she could easily work the trigger.  I sold her on a Kahr K9 instead. 
 

Skans » 15 Mar 2023, 12:53 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Mar 2023, 12:53 pm

Actually, it does have a threaded barrel, and it might be possible to thread a silencer on it with an adapter.  But, a silencer on this type of revolver would be pretty much useless.   These early Model 11 Dan Wesson's (and model 12's) are sometimes referred to as "pork-chop" barrels (barrel shroud looks like a pork chop) our exposed barrel nut DW's.   I have one with a very low serial number on it - looks just like the one in the picture and it still has the original box. It actually has a very nice deep blued finish on it, excellent double-action trigger and nice crisp trigger when shot single action as well.

I refer to my DW as "Big Black" - one of the few handguns of mine that my wife wanted to pilfer from me for her own personal protection.  Felt good in her hand and she could easily work the trigger.  I sold her on a Kahr K9 instead.

Silencer is, of course, useless on a revolver.
Nagant M1895 probably didn't even work that well and the mechanism was overly complex to be worth the effort.


 

PlumHollow » 17 Mar 2023, 1:40 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Mar 2023, 1:40 pm

Silencer is, of course, useless on a revolver.
Nagant M1895 probably didn't even work that well and the mechanism was overly complex to be worth the effort.

The Nagant Revolvers were known to be reliable. I believe they were based upon the Swiss M1882, or its predecessor.  I have a Swiss M1882 and it looks a lot like the Nagant.  However, the cylinder does not move forward upon firing.


 A beautiful little piece of original "steam punk" if there ever was any!!

Skans » 17 Mar 2023, 1:44 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Mar 2023, 1:44 pm

The Nagant Revolvers were known to be reliable. I believe they were based upon the Swiss M1882, or its predecessor.  I have a Swiss M1882 and it looks a lot like the Nagant.  However, the cylinder does not move forward upon firing.


 A beautiful little piece of original "steam punk" if there ever was any!!

So it really isn't like the Nagant as for as complexity. There's some similarity in your Swiss revolver but there are a lot of differences too. The mechanicals look way different. The entire advantage of the Nagant was the moving cylinder (which was a mechanical action). The cylinder gap had to be closed prior to ignition. That may or may not have been "reliable" but it adds trigger efforts and mechanical complexity your Swiss gun doesn't have to deal with. But it looks like yours has enough going on already.   

That being as it may I wonder how much more silent it actually was. Your Swiss M1882 might be a very good control comparison. To fit them both with the same suppressor and test. It would be pretty cool.
 
 

PlumHollow » 17 Mar 2023, 8:17 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Mar 2023, 8:17 pm

So it really isn't like the Nagant as for as complexity. There's some similarity in your Swiss revolver but there are a lot of differences too. The mechanicals look way different. The entire advantage of the Nagant was the moving cylinder (which was a mechanical action). The cylinder gap had to be closed prior to ignition. That may or may not have been "reliable" but it adds trigger efforts and mechanical complexity your Swiss gun doesn't have to deal with. But it looks like yours has enough going on already.   

That being as it may I wonder how much more silent it actually was. Your Swiss M1882 might be a very good control comparison. To fit them both with the same suppressor and test. It would be pretty cool.

I've never fired my 1882, but I have taken it apart. Every part on this gun is numbered and matched to the frame. It's more like fine clockwork than the Nagant, and the Nagant would be somewhat crude in comparison.  Very nicely finished with some parts looking like shiny stainless, other parts  (trigger, hammer and loading gate) having a straw finish and the rest blued. Neat bakelite grips. Under the grips, stamped onto the frame of my 1882 is SIG. 
 

Skans » 18 Mar 2023, 10:58 am » wrote: ↑

18 Mar 2023, 10:58 am

I've never fired my 1882, but I have taken it apart. Every part on this gun is numbered and matched to the frame. It's more like fine clockwork than the Nagant, and the Nagant would be somewhat crude in comparison.  Very nicely finished with some parts looking like shiny stainless, other parts  (trigger, hammer and loading gate) having a straw finish and the rest blued. Neat bakelite grips. Under the grips, stamped onto the frame of my 1882 is SIG.  So, I believe mine to be one of the first guns produced by Sig Sauer under military or police contract.  The double-action trigger is rather stout, but in single action, the trigger pull is crisp and fairly light.

One cool thing about it is that the internals are easily exposed by opening the hinged frame cover.

I'd love to get some ammo and shoot a few rounds through it.

7.5 mm pistol rounds probably aren't stocked at Wal-Mart very often.  
I read a short article about the caliber. In military rifle it was the predecessor to .30 cal.
Our first .30-30 kind of. Pistol round wasn't in that article but that rifle round was also Swiss.
Rifle round noted for its precision.

PlumHollow » 18 Mar 2023, 12:54 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Mar 2023, 12:54 pm

7.5 mm pistol rounds probably aren't stocked at Wal-Mart very often.  
I read a short article about the caliber. In military rifle it was the predecessor to .30 cal.
Our first .30-30 kind of. Pistol round wasn't in that article but that rifle round was also Swiss.
Rifle round noted for its precision.

The ammo is not easy to find.  I did find an ammo maker selling it once, should have bought a couple of boxes.
 

I need an inexpensive IR scope that works "good enough". Any recommendations? Or, what to stay away from? This is not for SHTF, it's for Coyotes.

Here is a Norinco Model 77B 9mm which I really wish S&W would make a version of here in the US.  With good parts, stainless steel and better machining than what the Chinese did on this.  Great design, just needs to be improved upon.   Notice the lever which is part of the trigger guard is also used to pull the slide back to chamber a round.

 

Skans » 21 Mar 2023, 8:58 am » wrote: ↑

21 Mar 2023, 8:58 am

Here is a Norinco Model 77B 9mm which I really wish S&W would make a version of here in the US.  With good parts, stainless steel and better machining than what the Chinese did on this.  Great design, just needs to be improved upon.   Notice the lever which is part of the trigger guard is also used to pull the slide back to chamber a round.

That trigger guard thingamabob looks like a great idea for helping take pressure off the slide lock on those compacts. Most 9mm compacts can't be released easily (or at all) with just thumb pressure if the mag is out. Pain in the ***. If there was a little assist from this kind of feature that would be nice.

PlumHollow » 25 Mar 2023, 12:23 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Mar 2023, 12:23 pm

That trigger guard thingamabob looks like a great idea for helping take pressure off the slide lock on those compacts. Most 9mm compacts can't be released easily (or at all) with just thumb pressure if the mag is out. Pain in the ***. If there was a little assist from this kind of feature that would be nice.

For once, I'd like to see an American company steal a Chinese gun design, make it better and let us have a laugh at China for a change.