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Mrkelly » 04 Jan 2023, 5:54 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Jan 2023, 5:54 pm

Damn dude, YouTube is full of them

https://youtu.be/NsQ2hX_noNw

Propaganda videos are not admissible
 

Warcok » 04 Jan 2023, 6:04 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Jan 2023, 6:04 pm

Propaganda videos are not admissible

tRumps words are not admissible   

TDS runs DEEP on this board   

Selaphobia » 03 Jan 2023, 6:10 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Jan 2023, 6:10 pm

I miss Trump.
I miss a Sealed border, low energy prices, strong stock market, strong 401K, decent fuel and food prices. And ZERO chance of Nuclear war. 

Nope.  Our border was never closed  just another of the 's countless lies.  Remember the caravans started with him.

& we were never so close to nuclear war.  Fortunately he was too much of a coward.  But Kim set off nuke tests.

• Sept. 2, 2019
•  

As North Korea fired off a series of missiles in recent months — at least 18 since May — President Trump has repeatedly dismissed their importance as short-range and “very standard” tests. And although he has conceded “there may be a United Nations violation,” the president says any concerns are overblown.


UPDATED MON, DEC 30 2019

• Under Kim Jong Un, North Korea has conducted its most powerful nuclear test and launched its first-ever intercontinental ballistic missile.
• Kim has fired more missiles than his father, Kim Jong Il, and grandfather, Kim Il Sung, launched over a period of 27 years.

supraTruth4 » 04 Jan 2023, 6:09 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Jan 2023, 6:09 pm

Nope.  Our border was never closed  just another of the 's countless lies.  Remember the caravans started with him.

& we were never so close to nuclear war.  Fortunately he was too much of a coward.  But Kim set off nuke tests.

• Sept. 2, 2019
•  

As North Korea fired off a series of missiles in recent months — at least 18 since May — President Trump has repeatedly dismissed their importance as short-range and “very standard” tests. And although he has conceded “there may be a United Nations violation,” the president says any concerns are overblown.

UPDATED MON, DEC 30 2019

• Under Kim Jong Un, North Korea has conducted its most powerful nuclear test and launched its first-ever intercontinental ballistic missile.
• Kim has fired more missiles than his father, Kim Jong Il, and grandfather, Kim Il Sung, launched over a period of 27 years.

Trump had the the little rocket man in check.

Selaphobia » 04 Jan 2023, 6:23 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Jan 2023, 6:23 pm

California has a wind and mountain problem. Install a fan and blow the smog out.

Good thing you're not in charge.

Selaphobia » 04 Jan 2023, 6:28 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Jan 2023, 6:28 pm

Not 1963

Try Google.   It's your friend.

Warcok » 04 Jan 2023, 6:04 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Jan 2023, 6:04 pm

Propaganda videos are not admissible

Actually, The video was accurate.  Included video's of Trump actually lying and sources you can personally doublecheck.  So the request for his lies has been satisfied.  You are choosing to ignore evidence that goes contrary to your wishes.
 

ScottMon » 04 Jan 2023, 6:47 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Jan 2023, 6:47 pm

Actually, The video was accurate.  Included video's of Trump actually lying and sources you can personally doublecheck.  So the request for his lies has been satisfied.  You are choosing to ignore evidence that goes contrary to your wishes.

It's a heavily edited propaganda video. It's not admissible.

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Warcok » 04 Jan 2023, 6:54 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Jan 2023, 6:54 pm

It's a heavily edited propaganda video. It's not admissible.

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You didn't even watch it.    
 

Selaphobia » 04 Jan 2023, 6:41 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Jan 2023, 6:41 pm

I already knew the answer. But you were a little off.
That is why I fact checked you.

I didn't mention '1963'.  You did.

Selaphobia » 04 Jan 2023, 7:13 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Jan 2023, 7:13 pm

^^

Post #91.
This is my post:
""1966
The board approved four smog‐control systems developed by independents, a decision that triggered a 1959 law into effect to require installation of exhaust devices on 1966 models for California."
Smog‐Control Unit Set for California In'66‐Model Carshttps://www.nytimes.com › 1964/08/13 › archives › smog..."

Mrkelly » 04 Jan 2023, 6:01 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Jan 2023, 6:01 pm

Biden,  after tRump told the proud boys to “stand down and stand by” during the debates

they are both dangerous, but tRump will burn the country down

Yer a fool...thanx for yer honesty.     

I don't know how much damage Biden has to do to our country before you see flames.     

Besides...it was Antifa and BLM that did the burning.
 
 

Selaphobia » 04 Jan 2023, 7:40 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Jan 2023, 7:40 pm

Are you sure?

this was a quote:
"As early as 1953, Los Angeles County Supervisor Kenneth Hahn inquired of Detroit automobile makers as to whether research was being conducted to eliminate emissions. The response was vague. With the threat of mandatory federal regulations, the auto industry began to install crankcase blowby devices (which returned unburned gases to the combustion chambers) on their cars. This was a significant advance because crankcase blowby produced 25 percent of the engine's hydrocarbon emissions. This equipment became mandatory on all cars sold in California beginning with the 1963 models."
http://www.autolife.umd.umich.edu/Envir ... rview4.htm

Your pal, pookey mookey boobie boo went berserk and prevented me from posting.  I could 'paste' the quote but couldn't type in the quotation marks.  Or any commentary.
My apologies.
 

RebelGator » 04 Jan 2023, 6:03 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Jan 2023, 6:03 pm

I used to ask that on dot org,  no one could name one.

Too many to count.  YOUR orange pig is a psychopath
 

Selaphobia » 04 Jan 2023, 8:00 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Jan 2023, 8:00 pm

I already knew that. Crankcase filters/breathers started in the 50's. PCV was required in 1961 in California.
You said 1963, then you said 1966. Which one are you going with?

@Cannonpointer  did no such thing to your ability to cut and paste. Stop your tomfoolery.

I personally don't remember the date.  I googled when California began to mandate that cars sold in California needed to have Smog Devices.
I remember the Car Companies laughing ... at first.
Then ... they realized the California Car Market was a large part of their Sales... and started making cars just for California with SMOG Devices.

ZiggyX » 04 Jan 2023, 1:05 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Jan 2023, 1:05 pm

 This equipment became mandatory on all cars sold in California beginning with the 1963 models.

And it had no effect. It took federal legislation. One state could not change the industry - not even a major player like Cali. 
 

Cannonpointer » 04 Jan 2023, 10:01 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Jan 2023, 10:01 pm

And it had no effect. It took federal legislation. One state could not change the industry - not even a major player like Cali.

L.A. had a SMOG problem, unlike other cities.   California took steps to solve it.  Detroit began making cars with SMOG Devices for California.  

"President Trump’s blood feud with California over its authority to set its own clean air standards brings to mind the state’s embryonic fight against noxious smog in the 1960s, when the Golden State first imposed anti-pollution requirements on automakers."
https://calmatters.org/commentary/2019/ ... sions-law/

"SOS pushed for a coordinated state response to the smog scourge and a mandate that vehicles in California be equipped with exhaust-reduction devices. It packed Capitol committee hearings with advocates and played a major role in securing passage of the California Motor Vehicle Control Act in 1960, the nation’s first statewide air pollution control act. "

Nobody gives a **** what the other 49 do.

ZiggyX » 04 Jan 2023, 11:59 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Jan 2023, 11:59 pm

L.A. had a SMOG problem, unlike other cities.   California took steps to solve it.  Detroit began making cars with SMOG Devices for California.  

"President Trump’s blood feud with California over its authority to set its own clean air standards brings to mind the state’s embryonic fight against noxious smog in the 1960s, when the Golden State first imposed anti-pollution requirements on automakers."
https://calmatters.org/commentary/2019/ ... sions-law/

"SOS pushed for a coordinated state response to the smog scourge and a mandate that vehicles in California be equipped with exhaust-reduction devices. It packed Capitol committee hearings with advocates and played a major role in securing passage of the California Motor Vehicle Control Act in 1960, the nation’s first statewide air pollution control act. "

Nobody gives a **** what the other 49 do.

1. Calmatters.org? Would not dream ofclicking.
2. The other 49 do.
 
 
 

Cannonpointer » 05 Jan 2023, 12:09 am » wrote: ↑

05 Jan 2023, 12:09 am

1. Calmatters.org? Would not dream ofclicking.
2. The other 49 do.

The wind blows from the west, off the Pacific.  Nobody cares if Atlanta, Pittsburg, or St. Louis, choke on smog.
(apparently, somebody thought California was doing the right thing, the Federal Government adopted California legislation)

Cannonpointer » 05 Jan 2023, 12:09 am » wrote: ↑

05 Jan 2023, 12:09 am

1. Calmatters.org? Would not dream ofclicking.
2. The other 49 do.

"“With today’s action, we reinstate an approach that for years has helped advance clean technologies and cut air pollution for people not just in California, but for the U.S. as a whole,” Regan said."
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/09/biden-r ... rules.html