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The differences in the cases of Biden and Trump
The differences in the cases of Biden and Trump
By Huey
14 Jan 2023 1:30 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
16 Jan 2023 2:52 am
No questions, dick sucker.Blackvegetable » 14 Jan 2023, 3:05 pm » wrote: ↑ Why not repost it, rather than vaguely describe it?
https://i.imgflip.com/6yjej4.jpg
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
16 Jan 2023 2:52 am
No questions, dick sucker.
https://i.imgflip.com/6yjej4.jpg
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
16 Jan 2023 2:53 am
No questions, dick sucker.Blackvegetable » 14 Jan 2023, 7:11 pm » wrote: ↑ Do you recall how thoroughly you were embarrassed at .org for a Michael Flynn thread?
https://i.imgflip.com/6yjej4.jpg
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
16 Jan 2023 2:54 am
No questions, dick sucker.Blackvegetable » 14 Jan 2023, 8:13 pm » wrote: ↑ Can you not see that it is not about having them in possession?
https://i.imgflip.com/6yjej4.jpg
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
16 Jan 2023 2:55 am
No questions, dick sucker.
https://i.imgflip.com/6yjej4.jpg
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
16 Jan 2023 2:55 am
No questions, dick sucker.
https://i.imgflip.com/6yjej4.jpg
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
16 Jan 2023 6:40 am
So if I rob a bank and give back the money, and then tell the Prosecutor that "I had no criminal; intent to harm anything or anyone", then I didn't commit any crime???slideman » 15 Jan 2023, 11:16 am » wrote: ↑ Anytime a crime is to be alleged there is the question of intent.
Every indication is that Biden had no criminal intent and was careless.
There is little question that Trump had criminal intent.
Go figure
Liberals are spoiled children, miserable, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic & useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats ~O'Rourke
The Democratic Party seems intransigent on their position of keeping the party ‘woke,’ detached, exclusionary, and totally insane.
The Democratic Party seems intransigent on their position of keeping the party ‘woke,’ detached, exclusionary, and totally insane.
16 Jan 2023 8:33 am
copies?Mr. 7 » 15 Jan 2023, 11:06 am » wrote: ↑ This is the killer question.....Why did the National Archives not know about the missing docs?
16 Jan 2023 8:37 am
This is by far, the most comprehensible post you have ever posted. It's true, I dare anyone to prove me wrong. Please, post more like this.
So, let's recap the Ignorance here...shall we.
BV posted...Only the zealously stupid, like zeet and a few other local dim lights, believe that 1.87 has any meaning beyond the symbolic. Supply/Demand stooges who believe POTUS can control oil prices.........
Then he posted....Grifty was the entire reason gas went to 4.50 this year.
BV posted...Only the zealously stupid, like zeet and a few other local dim lights, believe that 1.87 has any meaning beyond the symbolic. Supply/Demand stooges who believe POTUS can control oil prices.........
Then he posted....Grifty was the entire reason gas went to 4.50 this year.
16 Jan 2023 8:41 am
As usual, you only respond to anything using consensus facts, hypothetical scenarios, keeping the promise to never admit what life actually does in real time.Mr. 7 » 16 Jan 2023, 9:37 am » wrote: ↑ This is by far, the most comprehensible post you have ever posted. It's true, I dare anyone to prove me wrong. Please, post more like this.
16 Jan 2023 8:00 pm
Show me the LAW that defines how a President MUST declassify documents.ScottMon » 15 Jan 2023, 11:51 pm » wrote: ↑ Wow. 0 out of 3.
How Does the U.S. Government Declassify Top Secret Documents? | HowStuffWorks]
Trump Resisted Giving Back Mar-a-Lago Docs, Called Them 'Mine': NYT (businessinsider.com)
Biden's whirlwind final days as vice president had aides scrambling to close his White House office | CNN Politics
None of these come anywhere close.
Trump was negotiating with the Archives for who owned what. The Archives had reviewed and knew all the documents that were there.
Was that true with Biden's Penn office, his home library, and his garage?
And every Administrations "final days" are chaotic at the White House. Trump could make the same excuse, couldn't he?
But that begs the question, why did Biden go to Ukraine during that last "whirlwind" week of the Obama presidency?
17 Jan 2023 5:21 am
The bigger question is why did the CHICOMS donate $54.6 MILLION to the Penn/Biden Center after he left office at the SAME LOCATION TOP SECRET documents where found??golfboy » 16 Jan 2023, 9:00 pm » wrote: ↑ Show me the LAW that defines how a President MUST declassify documents.
None of these come anywhere close.
Trump was negotiating with the Archives for who owned what. The Archives had reviewed and knew all the documents that were there.
Was that true with Biden's Penn office, his home library, and his garage?
And every Administrations "final days" are chaotic at the White House. Trump could make the same excuse, couldn't he?
But that begs the question, why did Biden go to Ukraine during that last "whirlwind" week of the Obama presidency?
Liberals are spoiled children, miserable, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic & useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats ~O'Rourke
The Democratic Party seems intransigent on their position of keeping the party ‘woke,’ detached, exclusionary, and totally insane.
The Democratic Party seems intransigent on their position of keeping the party ‘woke,’ detached, exclusionary, and totally insane.
17 Jan 2023 5:22 am
https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/car ... -800x0.jpg
Liberals are spoiled children, miserable, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic & useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats ~O'Rourke
The Democratic Party seems intransigent on their position of keeping the party ‘woke,’ detached, exclusionary, and totally insane.
The Democratic Party seems intransigent on their position of keeping the party ‘woke,’ detached, exclusionary, and totally insane.
17 Jan 2023 6:09 am
To find out what braindead biden and his crackhead son did with those "top secret" classified documents an investigation into how braindead biden got all his wealth to buy all of his fancy mansions on a senator and vp's salary would likely be very revealing. Follow the money!!!
17 Jan 2023 6:19 am
DAVID MARCUS FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
16 January 2023
It must be nice to be Joe Biden.
When the Justice Department lost patience with Donald Trump, who was storing classified documents at Mar-a-Lago, they launched an unprecedented Hollywood-style raid on the former president's home – complete with 30 federal agents and a comprehensive search of Melania's wardrobe.
But when it turns out that Biden was keeping secret material in his personal office and Delaware garage alongside his prized Corvette -- suddenly it's like Seinfeld's Uncle Leo stealing from the bookstore, 'I'm an old man!'
Spare me.
Where was the raid on Wilmington?
Unfortunately, the horses have now bolted the barn. The opportunity to conduct a credible investigation has passed. The special counsel probe has been spoiled and the bungling Justice Department has bungled another one.
Think I'm overreacting?
Listen to none other than Andrew Weissman, the FBI lawyer appointed to help Robert Mueller run the special counsel investigation into Trump:
'Why did Biden counsel do the searches of his home/garage, and not the FBI/DOJ?,' he tweeted last week. 'Or at least invite them to participate, or consent to the FBI/DOJ doing the searches? And why the search delays and no prompt public disclosure?'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... otice.html
The **** about braindead biden co-operating with the DOJ and NARA is eactly that ****!!
What is to prevent his attorneys from destroying incriminating evidence? Is braindead biden and his attroneys co-operating with the FBI and NARA or is it the other way around and the FBI and NARA are co-operating with braindead biden and his attorneys.
16 January 2023
It must be nice to be Joe Biden.
When the Justice Department lost patience with Donald Trump, who was storing classified documents at Mar-a-Lago, they launched an unprecedented Hollywood-style raid on the former president's home – complete with 30 federal agents and a comprehensive search of Melania's wardrobe.
But when it turns out that Biden was keeping secret material in his personal office and Delaware garage alongside his prized Corvette -- suddenly it's like Seinfeld's Uncle Leo stealing from the bookstore, 'I'm an old man!'
Spare me.
Where was the raid on Wilmington?
Unfortunately, the horses have now bolted the barn. The opportunity to conduct a credible investigation has passed. The special counsel probe has been spoiled and the bungling Justice Department has bungled another one.
Think I'm overreacting?
Listen to none other than Andrew Weissman, the FBI lawyer appointed to help Robert Mueller run the special counsel investigation into Trump:
'Why did Biden counsel do the searches of his home/garage, and not the FBI/DOJ?,' he tweeted last week. 'Or at least invite them to participate, or consent to the FBI/DOJ doing the searches? And why the search delays and no prompt public disclosure?'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... otice.html
The **** about braindead biden co-operating with the DOJ and NARA is eactly that ****!!
What is to prevent his attorneys from destroying incriminating evidence? Is braindead biden and his attroneys co-operating with the FBI and NARA or is it the other way around and the FBI and NARA are co-operating with braindead biden and his attorneys.
17 Jan 2023 7:40 am
I just did. I gave you a link. We're done here.golfboy » 16 Jan 2023, 9:00 pm » wrote: ↑ Show me the LAW that defines how a President MUST declassify documents.
None of these come anywhere close.
17 Jan 2023 7:49 pm
There was no law quoted, your link only talked about an Executive Order, which holds no weight of law.
And your own link says this:
A U.S. president is recognized as having ultimate power to classify or declassify documents, as part of the powers as commander in chief of the U.S. military in Article II, Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution, which was affirmed in a 1988 Supreme Court case, Department of the Navy v. Egan.
So why do you lie?
18 Jan 2023 6:15 am
President Trump had the authority to declassify documents and, as a president of the United States, was allowed to take them as his personal documents, according to Mike Davis of the Article III Project. Not so with the vice president, which Biden was when he purloined the documents with the highest security classifications. We’re told, but we don’t have proof since we have only the say-so of Biden’s lawyer Richard Sauber, that some of the documents pertained to Ukraine and China. Of course, those are the countries from which Hunter Biden was extracting millions for access to the Veep.
Garland’s lackeys leaked that President Biden’s own attorneys were allowed to search the documents without FBI presence (read: raid) because he trusted Biden’s attorneys to do the search for them. On his word as a Biden. “Not a joke, not a joke.”
Indeed, the two sides, presumably the DOJ and Biden, though it’s not clear, “agreed that Mr. Biden’s personal attorneys would inspect the homes, notify the Justice Department as soon as they identified any other potentially classified records, and arrange for law-enforcement authorities to take them.” Did Biden get a back rub too? A day at the spa? Cognition lessons? Anything’s possible after telling Team Biden that hey, no problem you can go through the documents and then turn over the documents that Biden’s lawyers wanted to hand over.
WSJ postulates that by allowing Joe’s attorneys to curate and collect the illegally obtained classified documents he was not authorized to have, it laughably signals that “federal investigators are girding for a months-long inquiry that could stretch well into Mr. Biden’s third year in office.” What does that even mean?
“Instead, the two sides agreed that Mr. Biden’s personal attorneys would inspect the homes, notify the Justice Department as soon as they identified any other potentially classified records, and arrange for law-enforcement authorities to take them, ” WSJ straightfacedly reported.
Apparently, the discussions with the DOJ were very serious and deliberative, and “those deliberations, which haven’t previously been reported, shed new light on how the Biden team’s efforts to cooperate with investigators have thus far helped it avoid more aggressive actions by law enforcement.”
Oh please. Biden had the documents since January 2017. How is that cooperative, again?
Biden says he has no idea what those documents were in the box next to his vintage Corvette. We didn’t get a sexy staged photo of documents splayed out at the Car-a-Lago crime scene. Biden says he doesn’t remember having the documents in the three different properties (some of which had been moved multiple times). We have no trouble believing this. He likely doesn’t remember what he had for breakfast this morning.
Trump’s people were in negotiations with the National Archives, which apparently has somehow morphed into a law enforcement entity with gunned-up FBI SWAT-like officers at their disposal to go grab documents they didn’t want him to have. But not so for Biden.
The DOJ raided Trump’s house because they didn’t like him.
We don’t know who’s going after Joe Biden for what, but we won’t find out because there are only two ways this special counsel probe will go: As a Mueller-like CYA cover-up operation or as a wrist slap that will be spun as a well., we investigated him and all we got was his lousy 5th Amendment, a crack pipe, and the numbers of a couple of hookers. This will be a Hunter Biden/Joe Biden proxy “investigation,” and it will end there.
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/v ... s-n1662603
Garland’s lackeys leaked that President Biden’s own attorneys were allowed to search the documents without FBI presence (read: raid) because he trusted Biden’s attorneys to do the search for them. On his word as a Biden. “Not a joke, not a joke.”
Indeed, the two sides, presumably the DOJ and Biden, though it’s not clear, “agreed that Mr. Biden’s personal attorneys would inspect the homes, notify the Justice Department as soon as they identified any other potentially classified records, and arrange for law-enforcement authorities to take them.” Did Biden get a back rub too? A day at the spa? Cognition lessons? Anything’s possible after telling Team Biden that hey, no problem you can go through the documents and then turn over the documents that Biden’s lawyers wanted to hand over.
WSJ postulates that by allowing Joe’s attorneys to curate and collect the illegally obtained classified documents he was not authorized to have, it laughably signals that “federal investigators are girding for a months-long inquiry that could stretch well into Mr. Biden’s third year in office.” What does that even mean?
“Instead, the two sides agreed that Mr. Biden’s personal attorneys would inspect the homes, notify the Justice Department as soon as they identified any other potentially classified records, and arrange for law-enforcement authorities to take them, ” WSJ straightfacedly reported.
Apparently, the discussions with the DOJ were very serious and deliberative, and “those deliberations, which haven’t previously been reported, shed new light on how the Biden team’s efforts to cooperate with investigators have thus far helped it avoid more aggressive actions by law enforcement.”
Oh please. Biden had the documents since January 2017. How is that cooperative, again?
Biden says he has no idea what those documents were in the box next to his vintage Corvette. We didn’t get a sexy staged photo of documents splayed out at the Car-a-Lago crime scene. Biden says he doesn’t remember having the documents in the three different properties (some of which had been moved multiple times). We have no trouble believing this. He likely doesn’t remember what he had for breakfast this morning.
Trump’s people were in negotiations with the National Archives, which apparently has somehow morphed into a law enforcement entity with gunned-up FBI SWAT-like officers at their disposal to go grab documents they didn’t want him to have. But not so for Biden.
The DOJ raided Trump’s house because they didn’t like him.
We don’t know who’s going after Joe Biden for what, but we won’t find out because there are only two ways this special counsel probe will go: As a Mueller-like CYA cover-up operation or as a wrist slap that will be spun as a well., we investigated him and all we got was his lousy 5th Amendment, a crack pipe, and the numbers of a couple of hookers. This will be a Hunter Biden/Joe Biden proxy “investigation,” and it will end there.
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/v ... s-n1662603
18 Jan 2023 6:53 am
Nod up your ***. The difference is that Trump walked out of the Oval Office with documents that belonged to us, not him, and he knew it. He needed help moving all this ****, and at some point, somebody who knows better told him that he wasn't supposed to do that. But he's Trump, the laws and behaviors that reasonable people do their best to conform to, don't apply to him.Huey » 14 Jan 2023, 2:30 pm » wrote: ↑ @Blackvegetable
As I posted yesterday there are differences in the cases being made and investigations. Of course. No two cases are the same,
But the issue is the same. They both possessed classified documentation AFTER they left office.
Nod,
Did Biden personally remove, or order the removal of the documents that were found at the Penn/Biden Center and other locations. I'm not hearing that.
Of course there are differences, Trump is a sociopathic grifter, Biden is not. Trump hid the documents and did not return them when requested. Biden's people immediately notified the proper government agencies when any documents were uncovered and identified. Trump is going to make the case that he was ignorant and didn't realized that he could do this. Biden, in the frenetic and frantic last days of his vice presidency when Biden's files and personal items were cleared out of government offices, a small number of classified documents were carried away without his knowledge.
Apples and oranges Huey. **** MAGA false equivalence ****. Give it a **** rest, wanker Trumper.
Documents Inquiry Puts Spotlight on Biden’s Frenetic Last Days as Vice President
18 Jan 2023 6:56 am
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