Guilty of what? Biden didn't hold on to critical papers like Trump did.Skans » 23 Jan 2023, 2:59 pm » wrote: ↑ Biden is guilty. I know it. You know it. The liberal press knows it. The world knows it. And, most importantly, the wolves in your party who don't want demented old Biden around any longer know it too.
and the clown is innocent?Skans » 23 Jan 2023, 2:59 pm » wrote: ↑ Biden is guilty. I know it. You know it. The liberal press knows it. The world knows it. And, most importantly, the wolves in your party who don't want demented old Biden around any longer know it too.
Yes, he did.ScottMon » 23 Jan 2023, 3:26 pm » wrote: ↑ Guilty of what? Biden didn't hold on to critical papers like Trump did.
Biden mishandled it in his own way. He’s not blame free. He certainly knew there were boxes of stored government documents from the Obama years on his property and he would have known there were classified documents from time to time in his office when he was vice president. When the Trump story first broke he should have sensed the danger for himself if his aides had carelessly included classified papers in them, and had the boxes searched. A prompt return of them then would have defused serious criticism and later made Trump look even worse than he looks now. It was a time bomb Biden and/or his aides had to know might be there.ScottMon » 23 Jan 2023, 3:25 pm » wrote: ↑ And yet, Trump did know and put them off for a year. Biden gave full cooperation to when it was discovered. Legally they handled the situation much differently.
I need a link for that.RedheadedStranger » 23 Jan 2023, 3:29 pm » wrote: ↑ Yes, he did.
Some of those "found" documents go all the back to when he was a Senator.
What was a Senator doing with classified documents in his personal residence?
what criminal statute do you think he violated?RedheadedStranger » 23 Jan 2023, 3:29 pm » wrote: ↑ Yes, he did.
Some of those "found" documents go all the back to when he was a Senator.
What was a Senator doing with classified documents in his personal residence?
Politically, It looks bad. Legally, It's apples and oranges.jack » 23 Jan 2023, 3:32 pm » wrote: ↑ Biden mishandled it in his own way. He’s not blame free. He certainly knew there were boxes of stored government documents from the Obama years on his property and he would have known there were classified documents from time to time in his office when he was vice president. When the Trump story first broke he should have sensed the danger for himself if his aides had carelessly included classified papers in them, and had the boxes searched. A prompt return of them then would have defused serious criticism and later made Trump look even worse than he looks now. It was a time bomb Biden and/or his aides had to know might be there.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/justic ... 023-01-22/
Are Senators allowed to have classified documents at their personal residence?
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^^^^dodge.RedheadedStranger » 23 Jan 2023, 3:40 pm » wrote: ↑ Are Senators allowed to have classified documents at their personal residence?
Thank you. As per your link, I also noticed the following:RedheadedStranger » 23 Jan 2023, 3:37 pm » wrote: ↑ https://www.reuters.com/world/us/justic ... 023-01-22/
Second paragraph...
Some of the classified documents and "surrounding materials" dated from Biden's tenure in the U.S. Senate, where he represented Delaware from 1973 to 2009, according to his lawyer, Bob Bauer. Other documents were from his tenure as vice president in the Obama administration, from 2009 through 2017, Bauer said.
Members of the House and Senate are allowed to have security clearances.RedheadedStranger » 23 Jan 2023, 3:40 pm » wrote: ↑ Are Senators allowed to have classified documents at their personal residence?
The Trump case is irrelevant to the Biden case.ScottMon » 23 Jan 2023, 3:42 pm » wrote: ↑ Thank you. As per your link, I also noticed the following:
The president offered access "to his home to allow DOJ to conduct a search of the entire premises for potential vice-presidential records and potential classified material," Bauer said.
Something that Trump didn't do over a year.
Poetry of self deception of everyone avoiding the same consequence of their own actions shaming, flaming, blaming everyone else performing the same rituals differently every generation promising nobody will find out tomorrow. what was [practiced historically, to date.MackTheFinger » 23 Jan 2023, 3:41 pm » wrote: ↑ .
Bob Dylan:...She turned back the page from the book nobody cared to write.
And Trump's case. Some of you are trying really hard to draw a comparison between the two. I don't blame you for wanting to leave Trump out of this.RedheadedStranger » 23 Jan 2023, 3:47 pm » wrote: ↑ The Trump case is irrelevant to the Biden case.
We're discussing the Biden case, right?
Having a clearance to have access to classified material is one thing... but does that clearance allow one to possess the documents outside of the work environment, like say, at their personal residence?ScottMon » 23 Jan 2023, 3:43 pm » wrote: ↑ Members of the House and Senate are allowed to have security clearances.
Do Members of Congress Have Security Clearances? (clearancejobs.com)
Ask Trump. He did it for a year.RedheadedStranger » 23 Jan 2023, 3:50 pm » wrote: ↑ Having a clearance to have access to classified material is one thing... but does that clearance allow one to possess the documents outside of the work environment, like say, at their personal residence?
why? Obama's took everything with them and the Whitehouse had to be refurnished..