Jury finds four Oath Keepers guilty of seditious conspiracy

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By slideman
23 Jan 2023 4:20 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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23 Jan 2023 8:25 pm
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maineman » 23 Jan 2023, 9:05 pm » wrote: what do you think sedition is?
Under US code a separate/different charge.

Google is your friend, moron.

Sedition:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2384

Insurrection:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2383

You are not smart enough to address me.

 
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Huey » 23 Jan 2023, 9:25 pm » wrote: Under US code a separate/different charge.

Google is your friend, moron.

Sedition:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2384

Insurrection:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2383

You are not smart enough to address me.
the point was, they are CLOSELY related.

AND SEDITION IS WORSE!!!!!  Sedition has a prison sentence of twenty years... Insurrection only 10!!!!

TO claim that we didn't put MAGAts away for insurrection and only put them away from Seditious Conspiracy is like bragging that you didn't get imprisoned for Manslaughter, only MURDER!  HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA YOU may think that's  a victory for your side, but I don't think it  will feel much like a victory to Hackett, Minuta,  Moerschel, and Vallejo ten years or so into their prison stay after they've lost all their teeth and each have swallowed about fifty gallons of black inmate jism.  Good times... good times... but, they could at least point out that they weren't found guilty of INSURRECTION!  hahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaahahahahahahahahaha
 
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23 Jan 2023 9:01 pm
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RedheadedStranger » 23 Jan 2023, 9:09 pm » wrote: You just come across as an angry drunk.

Maybe you need to drink more often so you won't be so god damned uptight all the time.
I am not a drunk.  I am a patriot.  I spent a quarter of a century protecting this country I love, and I am angry that the GOP was -and apparently still is - willing to throw it all down the **** for a charlatan clown.
 
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23 Jan 2023 9:41 pm
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maineman » 23 Jan 2023, 10:01 pm » wrote: I am not a drunk.  I am a patriot.  I spent a quarter of a century protecting this country I love, and I am angry that the GOP was -and apparently still is - willing to throw it all down the **** for a charlatan clown.

I am a drunk.
I love.......this country.


I will defend her blood.............with my blood.
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Gee, I noticed how all the Whataboutists came out of the woodwork!
No real debate of course!
:lol:   :lol:   :lol:  
 
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maineman » 23 Jan 2023, 9:49 pm » wrote: the point was, they are CLOSELY related.

AND SEDITION IS WORSE!!!!!  Sedition has a prison sentence of twenty years... Insurrection only 10!!!!

TO claim that we didn't put MAGAts away for insurrection and only put them away from Seditious Conspiracy is like bragging that you didn't get imprisoned for Manslaughter, only MURDER!  HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA YOU may think that's  a victory for your side, but I don't think it  will feel much like a victory to Hackett, Minuta,  Moerschel, and Vallejo ten years or so into their prison stay after they've lost all their teeth and each have swallowed about fifty gallons of black inmate jism.  Good times... good times... but, they could at least point out that they weren't found guilty of INSURRECTION!  hahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaahahahahahahahahaha
One is talking about overthrowing the government with another person. The other is actually attempting it.
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nuckinfutz » 23 Jan 2023, 10:52 pm » wrote: Gee, I noticed how all the Whataboutists came out of the woodwork!
No real debate of course!
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We can't have a real debate without you, Mr. Helter Skelter.
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maineman » 23 Jan 2023, 9:05 pm » wrote: what do you think sedition is?
Sedition is conduct or speech that incites individuals to violently rebel against the authority of the government. Insurrection includes the actual acts of violence and rebellion.  Sedition and insurrection ARE NOT the same thing.

Nobody has been charged with, much less convicted of, insurrection.
 
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Z09 » 24 Jan 2023, 6:14 am » wrote: Stop with the war hero stuff...
Stop with the witless sock puppet stuff.
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MackTheFinger » 23 Jan 2023, 5:30 pm » wrote: .
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The same day 100 Hood Rats were found guilty to BUT for some reason jiveman doesn't care about that.

BTW: Good for the jury...more thugs should be put in prison and with longer sentences.
No link, no proof.  Didn't happen.
 
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ConsRule » 24 Jan 2023, 8:28 am » wrote: Sedition is conduct or speech that incites individuals to violently rebel against the authority of the government. Insurrection includes the actual acts of violence and rebellion.  Sedition and insurrection ARE NOT the same thing.

Nobody has been charged with, much less convicted of, insurrection.
They are directly related.
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Blackvegetable » 24 Jan 2023, 8:37 am » wrote: They are directly related.
But not the same.  No matter how much you want them to be the same thing...they aren't.

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ConsRule » 24 Jan 2023, 8:28 am » wrote: Sedition is conduct or speech that incites individuals to violently rebel against the authority of the government. Insurrection includes the actual acts of violence and rebellion.  Sedition and insurrection ARE NOT the same thing.

Nobody has been charged with, much less convicted of, insurrection.
They're pretty damn close.  I'm surprised how eager folks are to defend the violent attempt to overturn a lawful election.  
 
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maineman » 23 Jan 2023, 9:49 pm » wrote: the point was, they are CLOSELY related.

AND SEDITION IS WORSE!!!!!  Sedition has a prison sentence of twenty years... Insurrection only 10!!!!

TO claim that we didn't put MAGAts away for insurrection and only put them away from Seditious Conspiracy is like bragging that you didn't get imprisoned for Manslaughter, only MURDER!  HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA YOU may think that's  a victory for your side, but I don't think it  will feel much like a victory to Hackett, Minuta,  Moerschel, and Vallejo ten years or so into their prison stay after they've lost all their teeth and each have swallowed about fifty gallons of black inmate jism.  Good times... good times... but, they could at least point out that they weren't found guilty of INSURRECTION!  hahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaahahahahahahahahaha
These idiots struggle, and frequently fail, to spell words of 2 letters.

Then they want to interpret the law for you.

They should be obliged to post their past record in such debates..

It would begin with "0 for ....."
 
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ScottMon » 24 Jan 2023, 8:40 am » wrote: They're pretty damn close.  I'm surprised how eager folks are to defend the violent attempt to overturn a lawful election.
Well practiced in the art of normalizing aberrant behavior. 
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ConsRule » 24 Jan 2023, 8:28 am » wrote: Sedition is conduct or speech that incites individuals to violently rebel against the authority of the government. Insurrection includes the actual acts of violence and rebellion.  Sedition and insurrection ARE NOT the same thing.

Nobody has been charged with, much less convicted of, insurrection.
no...sedition is considered MUCH worse!!!!  Read the statute... TWICE the period of incarceration!

They weren't convicted of Manslaughter...they were ONLY convicted of MURDER!!!   hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaahhha
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ConsRule » 24 Jan 2023, 8:38 am » wrote: But not the same.  No matter how much you want them to be the same thing...they aren't.

SUCKS FOR YOU!!!!
I'm not rationalizing Jan 6th.

Sucks to be you.

Again.
 
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Z09 » 24 Jan 2023, 6:14 am » wrote: Stop with the war hero stuff...
there IS no "hero stuff" you stupid illiterate ****.

I served.  LOTS of people served.  That doesn't make anyone a HERO... it merely means they raised their hand and took an oath to protect and defend the United States Constitution.  There is nothing inherently HEROIC about serving.  There is something inherently patriotic about doing so, and there is something inherently vile about castigating and denigrating and belittling the services of those who did.
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Huey » 24 Jan 2023, 5:59 am » wrote: One is talking about overthrowing the government with another person. The other is actually attempting it.
it wasn't manslaughter, it was only murder.

twenty years versus ten years.

ooopsie
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ScottMon » 24 Jan 2023, 8:40 am » wrote: They're pretty damn close.  I'm surprised how eager folks are to defend the violent attempt to overturn a lawful election.
Where did I defend what happened?  Just pointing out the facts.
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