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Beekeeper » 26 Jan 2023, 8:18 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2023, 8:18 pm

Keep poking that turd, moron. Your boy Schiff has been PROVEN to be a LYING SACK OF MORON ****!! He's NO LONGER fit nor even eligible for ANY government security clearance and he got booted from the Intel Committee because of his massive lying!

The stench you are creating is almost laughable!!

Mr. Excusitis- aka "Maineman"- strikes AGAIN trying to turn that SOWS EAR into a silk purse!!

It seems like all you do is avoid answering direct questions by obfuscating with insults, Mr. Honeypot.

You realize that Schiff will probably be the next senator from California, don't you?  He or Katie Porter.

He got booted from the Intel Committee because your Speaker of the House sucked a mile of Freedom Caucus cock for the chance to wield the gavel for a while.  Have you seen the polling about what America thinks about GOP congressional leadership?  Ouch!!

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/26/politics ... index.html
 

Beekeeper » 26 Jan 2023, 8:24 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2023, 8:24 pm

Misty » 26 Jan 2023, 8:19 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2023, 8:19 pm

Miranda Devine?
This Miranda Devine?


Laptop From Hell.......
   

One of the very best Investigative reporters out there. She pulls NO punches regardless of political affiliation.

This obsession with Hunter Biden kills me.
Meanwhile, not a word about this:


I guess you don't care that Jared Kushner was communicating with Prince Bonesaw through an encrypted app and got 2 billion dollars in Saudi money to bail out his building at 666 5th Ave.
Does that not smell to you at all?
 
 

Skans » 26 Jan 2023, 8:45 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2023, 8:45 am

LOL - Tallahassee Junior College.  WHERE EVEN THE LOSERS
ARE WINNERS!

Oh my God. The students n the front row are man-spreading. 

Alert the feminists. 
 

maineman » 26 Jan 2023, 7:18 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2023, 7:18 pm

1. Did the federal government fire anyone?  Private business owners can set whatever rules they want for their employees regarding vaccinations.  People are free to find another job if they don't like their current employer.   I am "admitting" nothing.

Google, "U.S. Military," fruitcake.

When you have to lie, you are admitting that you know you are wrong.

Thank you for that admission.

maineman » 26 Jan 2023, 7:18 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2023, 7:18 pm

2.  no admission, and you should lose the gratuitous insults... they really don't add much to your presentation.

It WAS an admission, and YOU should stop mouth ****, fruitcake.

maineman » 26 Jan 2023, 7:18 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2023, 7:18 pm

3.  proof means the same thing everywhere.  If you had any, you'd show it.

Man, that REALLY stuck in your craw, didn't it?

maineman » 26 Jan 2023, 7:18 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2023, 7:18 pm

4. I am willing to give people the benefit of the doubt, especially when it really doesn't impact my life one way or the other

Sure you are, punkin. Depending on what your masters instruct, I'll wager you are.

maineman » 26 Jan 2023, 7:18 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2023, 7:18 pm

5.  "obvious" to you.  Let's wait and see what a court finds.

Translation: "I'm confident the fix is in, so I'll keep spewing lies like the weak dick sucker my mama raised."

maineman » 26 Jan 2023, 7:18 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2023, 7:18 pm

6.  I don't think NASA scientists lie...

Oh, so you trust NASA scientists - just not the entire field of biology.

But then, you would not recogize real science if your life depended on it. You think science is whatever maddow TELLS you is science. How man times have you been jabbed, rube?

Cannonpointer » 26 Jan 2023, 9:54 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2023, 9:54 pm

Google, "U.S. Military," fruitcake.

When you have to lie, you are admitting that you know you are wrong.

Thank you for that admission.

It WAS an admission, and YOU should stop mouth ****, fruitcake.

Man, that REALLY stuck in your craw, didn't it?

Sure you are, punkin. Depending on what your masters instruct, I'll wager you are.

Translation: "I'm confident the fix is in, so I'll keep spewing lies like the weak dick sucker my mama raised."

Oh, so you trust NASA scientists - just not the entire field of biology.

But then, you would not recogize real science if your life depended on it. You think science is whatever maddow TELLS you is science. How man times have you been jabbed, rube?

I was in the U.S. Military.  I NEVER had an option as to whether or not I got vaccinated.  I don't WANT service members thinking they can say no to their superiors.  I guess, if you had served, you would understand that mind set.

I don't lie so I have no need to admit to doing so,

Nothing sticks in my craw... I merely point out that a lot of people confuse their opinions with facts and proof when they are not.  Like you do.  There is no FIX in other than the certainly of a fair trial.  Look how long Durham went looking for proof against the democrats.  Nothing burgers.  Four years and all he gave us is platter after platter of nothing burgers.  Like here... you talk a big game but it's all talk and no action. When Hunter is in the dock, we'll talk.  When Biden resigns, we'll talk. Until then, you're selling wolf tickets.   You and your boy George Santos... class acts.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/26/us/p ... -barr.html
 
 

maineman » 26 Jan 2023, 10:17 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2023, 10:17 pm

I was in the U.S. Military.  I NEVER had an option as to whether or not I got vaccinated.  I don't WANT service members thinking they can say no to their superiors.  I guess, if you had served, you would understand that mind set.

Tell that to this lying ****. He was **** that refusing the vaccine was not punished at the federal level by job loss. Straighten the clown out:

maineman » 26 Jan 2023, 7:18 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2023, 7:18 pm

1. Did the federal government fire anyone?  Private business owners can set whatever rules they want for their employees regarding vaccinations.  People are free to find another job if they don't like their current employer.   I am "admitting" nothing.

 

maineman » 26 Jan 2023, 10:17 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2023, 10:17 pm

You and your boy George Santos... class acts.

George Santos told no lies any more egregious than the lies of the current occupant of the whitehouse. He was caught plagiarizing not once, not twice, but many times. There is video of the compulsive prevaricator fantasizing all manner of **** into memories of "real" events that occurred in time and space. The pedo-in-chief lies when the truth would help him.

Santos is likely a performance artist - and you're too stupid to appreciate his art. I would rank him with Andy Kaufman, whom you were likely ALSO too stupid to appreciate.

TELL US WHAT LIE SANTOS HAS TOLD THAT IS MORE EGREGIOUS AND RETARDED THAN THIS, FRUITCAKE:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBmooJiivDY
 

Cannonpointer » 26 Jan 2023, 10:34 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2023, 10:34 pm

Tell that to this lying ****. He was **** that refusing the vaccine was not punished at the federal level by job loss. Straighten the clown out:

George Santos told no lies any more egregious than the lies of the current occupant of the whitehouse. He was caught plagiarizing not once, not twice, but many times. There is video of the compulsive prevaricator fantasizing all manner of **** into memories of "real" events that occurred in time and space. The pedo-in-chief lies when the truth would help him.

Santos is likely a performance artist - and you're too stupid to appreciate his art. I would rank him with Andy Kaufman, whom you were likely ALSO too stupid to appreciate.

TELL US WHAT LIE SANTOS HAS TOLD THAT IS MORE EGREGIOUS AND RETARDED THAN THIS, FRUITCAKE:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBmooJiivDY

As a retired military officer, I understand that some people might lump military personnel in with other federal employees.  I guess that even some first term enlisted personnel who are not considering the military as a career might not see themselves as something apart from the federal work force.  I never felt that way and I don't know of a career military professional who ever did.  I never questioned the legitimacy of service-wide inoculations as a necessary aspect of maintaining force readiness anymore than I would question the annual PT test.  I don't think that any other non-military federal employees were summarily dismissed simply because they chose not to get a COVID vaccine.  Maybe you know of some... or, as I suspect[, maybe you have an opinion that such dismissals probably happened.  

As far as civilian employers, that's certainly their right, especially when their employees personally interact with their customers.  

And hey.... go all in for George.  He is certainly the face of the new GOP.  

As far as Biden and his uncle... tempest in a teapot, imho, and much like a transgender person wanting to live their lives as a woman regardless of their plumbing, it really doesn't harm anyone.... other than, say, a president who said "THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT SADDAM HAS STOCKPILES OF WMDS"  That lie DID cause some serious harm but then, as now, the GOP glorifies liars.

And how are you feeling about the 30% national sales tax?  That'll really help the working poor and the middle class, won't it?  But then, when did the GOP ever REALLY give a flying **** about those two groups?
 

maineman » 26 Jan 2023, 11:06 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2023, 11:06 pm

As a retired military officer, I understand that some people might lump military personnel in with other federal employees.  I guess that even some first term enlisted personnel who are not considering the military as a career might not see themselves as something apart from the federal work force.  I never felt that way and I don't know of a career military professional who ever did.  I never questioned the legitimacy of service-wide inoculations

"Innoculation" has a definition. The experiment did not innoculate those who received it.

IF YOU REALLY SERVED, you took an oath. As a sworn defender of the Constitution, you are RESPONSIBLE to know that treaties passed pursuant thereto are organic law of the land to precisely the same degree that the Constitution is: that is, absolutely law of the land.

We are party to treaties codified in the Nuermeberg Code, including but not limited to the Geneva Conventions.

The Nuremberg Code - again, codified treaties to which we are signatory and indeed of which we were the originators - EXPRESSLY forbids coercing, compelling or extorting any person, whether civilian or military, free or incarcerated, citizen or non-citizen, to participate in medical experiments. The Covid "vaccine" was (AND IS) still experimental under U.S. law when soldiers were forced to take it in contravention of the afore-mentioned treaties. You can play stupid all you like. The law remains the law; your oath remains your oath. Your blithe narrative ignoring these facts and defending these violations is itself a reneg of your oath to defend the Constitution. I swore no such oath, yet I am defending what you swore to defend against your lies.

You might have been an officer. You are a liar and an oath breaker and no gentleman.

maineman » 26 Jan 2023, 11:06 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2023, 11:06 pm

As far as Biden and his uncle... tempest in a teapot, imho,

That's what I said, dummy. You defend - in this case, through minimization - the precise behavior you screech about from the other side. You are a hack, and evidence means nothing to you.

maineman » 26 Jan 2023, 11:06 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2023, 11:06 pm

And how are you feeling about the 30% national sales tax?

I'd rather discuss how you feel about deflection, traitor to your oath.

Oh, wait - you favor it. Never mind.
 

Misty » 26 Jan 2023, 8:37 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2023, 8:37 pm

This obsession with Hunter Biden kills me.
Meanwhile, not a word about this:


I guess you don't care that Jared Kushner was communicating with Prince Bonesaw through an encrypted app and got 2 billion dollars in Saudi money to bail out his building at 666 5th Ave.
Does that not smell to you at all?

SPECULATION without any EVIDENCE of wrongdoing isn't a crime, mulemouth!!

What EVIDENCE can you produce that a CRIME was committed?? Investing in a FUND is NOT illegal and that is precisely what happened. What seems to bother you the most is that it was someone you don't like that set it up and solicited FUNDING for it. AND you have ZERO evidence that it was used to bail out anything!!

What we DO have with the Biden's is that they used their INFLUENCE IN OFFICE to strong arm and to manipulate- aka INFLUENCE PEDDLING- other NATIONS and FOREIGN COMPANIES for cash payments under a PRETENSE of "giving Hunter a JOB"!! AND as they also pushed for FAVORABLE TREATMENTS of their Companies by the UNITED STATES and to look the other way when it came to business dealing here in the United States!! ALL ILLEGAL!! Hell, we even have 'ol Joe BRAGGING about how he used the THREAT OF STOPPING BILLIONS in FOREIGN AID to Ukraine if they didn't FIRE A PROSECUTOR who was investigating that sweetheart Burisma Deal Hunter was getting PAID to the tune of $83,000 a MONTH to make their CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE FILTHY RICH!!

So what EVIDENCE can you produce that your "claim" is CRIMINAL??
 

Cannonpointer » 27 Jan 2023, 1:08 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jan 2023, 1:08 am

"Innoculation" has a definition. The experiment did not innoculate those who received it.

IF YOU REALLY SERVED, you took an oath. As a sworn defender of the Constitution, you are RESPONSIBLE to know that treaties passed pursuant thereto are organic law of the land to precisely the same degree that the Constitution is: that is, absolutely law of the land.

We are party to treaties codified in the Nuermeberg Code, including but not limited to the Geneva Conventions.

The Nuremberg Code - again, codified treaties to which we are signatory and indeed of which we were the originators - EXPRESSLY forbids coercing, compelling or extorting any person, whether civilian or military, free or incarcerated, citizen or non-citizen, to participate in medical experiments. The Covid "vaccine" was (AND IS) still experimental under U.S. law when soldiers were forced to take it in contravention of the afore-mentioned treaties. You can play stupid all you like. The law remains the law; your oath remains your oath. Your blithe narrative ignoring these facts and defending these violations is itself a reneg of your oath to defend the Constitution. I swore no such oath, yet I am defending what you swore to defend against your lies.

You might have been an officer. You are a liar and an oath breaker and no gentleman.

That's what I said, dummy. You defend - in this case, through minimization - the precise behavior you screech about from the other side. You are a hack, and evidence means nothing to you.

I'd rather discuss how you feel about deflection, traitor to your oath.

Oh, wait - you favor it. Never mind.

It is solely your opinion - not shared by ANY court of law - that the COVID vaccine meets the definition of "experimental  treatment" under the Geneva Convention.  But it's certainly nice spin, however!  Novel!!!!  I'd up arrow you creativity points, but I am afraid it might go to your head.

I broke no oath.  I have supported and defended the constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, my entire adult life.


 

maineman » 27 Jan 2023, 8:50 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jan 2023, 8:50 am

I broke no oath.  I have supported and defended the constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, my entire adult life.
 

Then when can we see the obituary where you OFFED YOURSELF??? Seeing how you are one of the #1 Enemies of the State of this country with your leftwing SOCIALIST ****!! Guess that makes you a traitor and subject to execution, so save us the grief of doing it for you.

Beekeeper » 27 Jan 2023, 1:14 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Jan 2023, 1:14 pm

Then when can we see the obituary where you OFFED YOURSELF??? Seeing how you are one of the #1 Enemies of the State of this country with your leftwing SOCIALIST ****!! Guess that makes you a traitor and subject to execution, so save us the grief of doing it for you.

Leftwing socialist?  Point me to ONE post of mine where I have EVER espoused socialism, Mister Honeypot.  You won't find it.

And whatever happened to you putting me on ignore?

You're like a moth to a flame!    

maineman » 27 Jan 2023, 1:20 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Jan 2023, 1:20 pm

Leftwing socialist?  Point me to ONE post of mine where I have EVER espoused socialism, Mister Honeypot.  You won't find it.

And whatever happened to you putting me on ignore?

You're like a moth to a flame!  

Single Payor Healthcare and/or Medicare for all and you FULLY support that SOCIALIST system.

Sucks for you, mr. Mainegrl!! Looks like that gnats arse of yours just got scorched!!

LMBO!!

Z09 » 27 Jan 2023, 1:24 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Jan 2023, 1:24 pm

You're like **** to odor

^^^sophomoric...and stupid.

Beekeeper » 27 Jan 2023, 1:24 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Jan 2023, 1:24 pm

Single Payor Healthcare and/or Medicare for all and you FULLY support that SOCIALIST system.

Sucks for you, mr. Mainegrl!! Looks like that gnats arse of yours just got scorched!!

LMBO!!

Public Fire/Police Departments are also socialist from your frame of reference.  Interstate Highway Systems?  Public Power Grids?

Are you against all of those too?

Z09 » 27 Jan 2023, 1:32 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Jan 2023, 1:32 pm

How's that non cash bail working for you..?

For me?  I have never had to post it. How's it working for YOU?

And I remember all the great 19th century socialist philosophers had non cash bail as one of the primary tenets of socialism!  lol
 

maineman » 27 Jan 2023, 1:27 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Jan 2023, 1:27 pm

Public Fire/Police Departments are also socialist from your frame of reference.  Interstate Highway Systems?  Public Power Grids?

Are you against all of those too?

ALL of those are from LOCAL governments, with the Interstate Highways being a State/Federal project,  and not anywhere CLOSE to socialism. Of which you seem to have ZERO idea of what a SOCIALIST PROGRAM looks like!!

WHO controls your HEALTHCARE under that "Medicare for All" you so adamantly DEMAND?? YOU the individual or the Government?? And can you CHOOSE your level of care based on YOUR PERSONAL needs or does the GOVERNMENT determine FOR YOU what you need?? And can you REFUSE the government plan and find something you prefer??

A FIRE DEPARTMENT is something you CAN call if you need to, but it's NOT a requirement as your SOCIALIST HEALTHCARE would be. And I can OPT to use the Interstate or if I want, take the back roads and or walk!! NO ONE is forcing me to use either one.

maineman » 27 Jan 2023, 1:33 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Jan 2023, 1:33 pm

For me?  I have never had to post it. How's it working for YOU?

And I remember all the great 19th century socialist philosophers had non cash bail as one of the primary tenets of socialism!  lol

Moron. You have NO BAIL TO POST under a "no cash bail" policy.

You ain't real smart now are you??

Beekeeper » 27 Jan 2023, 1:34 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Jan 2023, 1:34 pm

ALL of those are from LOCAL governments, with the Interstate Highways being a State/Federal project,  and not anywhere CLOSE to socialism. Of which you seem to have ZERO idea of what a SOCIALIST PROGRAM looks like!!

WHO controls your HEALTHCARE under that "Medicare for All" you so adamantly DEMAND?? YOU the individual or the Government?? And can you CHOOSE your level of care based on YOUR PERSONAL needs or does the GOVERNMENT determine FOR YOU what you need?? And can you REFUSE the government plan and find something you prefer??

A FIRE DEPARTMENT is something you CAN call if you need to, but it's NOT a requirement as your SOCIALIST HEALTHCARE would be. And I can OPT to use the Interstate or if I want, take the back roads and or walk!! NO ONE is forcing me to use either one.

 
So... in your way of thinking, socialism must be national in nature?  States could not initiate socialist programs?

Medicare and social security fit your definition of socialist, but every president since Roosevelt has supported Social Security and every president since Johnson has supported Medicare.  

Fire departments.... who pays for them?  YOU do... whether you chose to call them when your house is on fire is your business.... although the city may very well come and put your house fire out even without being asked.  It is a requirement that you cough up your share of the costs of that department, however.  How socialist of you!!!!

No one is forcing me to go to any doctor I don't want to see.  I can chose to see him, or I can chose to self medicate.  No one is forcing me to see anyone.

Z09 » 27 Jan 2023, 1:37 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Jan 2023, 1:37 pm

You support violent criminals just to be let out without any bail posted...
It's like your border policy...

More criminals the better

you dodged the question about non-cash bail being "socialist".

I'll wait.

Oh...and while you're at it... find me the post where I support violent criminals being released without any bail being posted.

I'll wait for that as well.