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maineman » 30 Jan 2023, 3:52 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jan 2023, 3:52 pm

I can imagine it would be fun, on a snowy afternoon,  to curl up in front of a nice fire, with a nice glass of tequila, and smoke a bowl of whatever Nostradamus' omh  smokes!
 

I don't smoke, inject, or digest things that make my brain fall prey to ideologies that misled my ancestry historically through my time evolving forward since conceived and born over 71 revolutions ago and my body has never been same cell division total sum twice. I have since age of 5 years ole always felt something missing in reality nobody would give an honest explanation why I felt that way, until I stopped believing reality is all anyone could understand cradle to grave.
since 1982 I studied life never duplicating anything twice while working the same way constantly. and trying to figure out a way to break the chain of educated self deception considered a greater good scenario in every society created through reasonable doubt.

My blind rage at humanity standing at our mom's grave got my instincts to conquer social doubt created by relative time facts only defined in two sides of any conflicting interpretation.

but every reality governs on 6 degrees of separation thinking beyond self contained to one's own flesh the metaphor of a box.

maineman » 30 Jan 2023, 3:44 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jan 2023, 3:44 pm

Your refusal to understand that you use the term Socialism incorrectly is getting annoying.

No one in the mainstream of the democratic party wants to have the US government take control of the ownership and means of production in our economy.    Nobody wants to buy up all the farmland and have the farmers be government employees who grow what the federal government tells them to grow.  Nobody wants to buy up all the car companies and only build the sorts of super energy efficient cars that the government choses to built.  Nobody wants to buy Purdue or Tyson and have the government employing poultry workers.  THAT would be socialism.

There is nothing socialist about snow plowing.  There is nothing socialist about fire protection.  There is nothing socialist about community policing.  There is nothing socialist about government subsidized healthcare.   There is nothing socialist about municipally owned water systems or sewerage systems or state owned electrical distribution systems.  

The democratic party has no designs on having the US government buy out every corporation in America and make the NYSE a relic of a bygone capitalist era.  We support and defend capitalism.   The NYSE is selling shares of the ownership in the American economy every day,  Democrats do not want to stop that. 

We have, as a society, come to figure out that certain aspects of our communal lives are most effectively and efficiently handled by government.  All of the things above in bold are such aspects.  

Until you lose the hyperbole and the willful ignorance and the insulting epithets, maybe you SHOULD just put me on ignore.

Gee, tushyeater, the only one that is screaming about Fire Departments NOT being Socialist is YOU!! Because I never said they were. Same with Police and roads. BUT I did say that in order to have those things, you are a person with UNALIENABLE RIGHTS, must voluntarily give up the portion of those rights YOU POSSESS to others to carry out on YOUR behalf!! THAT'S NOT MY CLAIM TO SOCIALISM, BUT THE WAY A REPUBLICAN NATION WORKS!!

SO you made the list, dorkus!! Enjoy it!!

Oh, and yes, there ARE those in the MAIN STREAM DEMOCRAT PARTY that want SOCIALISM. See the VIDEO I posted above as well. AND you IDIOTS came within a frogs hair of nominating a SOCIALIST (admitted) to be your CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT!! So spare us the HYPERBOLE on there isn't any "mainstream Democrats" who aren't wanting MORE SOCIALISM!! There were over 120 of them who SIGNED ON AS COSPONSORS to the "Medicare for All" BILL, ARSEHOLE!!
 

Beekeeper » 30 Jan 2023, 4:14 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jan 2023, 4:14 pm

Gee, tushyeater, the only one that is screaming about Fire Departments NOT being Socialist is YOU!! Because I never said they were. Same with Police and roads. BUT I did say that in order to have those things, you are a person with UNALIENABLE RIGHTS, must voluntarily give up the portrion of those rights YOU POSSESS to others to carry out on YOUR behalf!! THAT'S NOT MY CLAIM TO SOCIALISM, BUT THE WAY A REPUBLICAN NATION WORKS!!

SO you made the list, dorkus!! Enjoy it!!

Oh, and yes, there ARE those in the MAIN STREAM DEMOCRAT PARTY that want SOCIALISM. See the VIDEO I posted above as well. AND you IDIOTS came within a frogs hair of nominating a SOCIALIST (admitted) to be your CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT!! So spare us the HYPERBOLE on there isn't any "mainstream Democrfats" who aren't wanting MORE SOCIALISM!! There were over 120 of them who SIGNED ON AS COSPONSORS to the "Medicare for All" BILL, ARSEHOLE!!

Medicare for All is not socialism.  Socialism is not government subsidy and oversight over discreet segments of the service delivery economy.  Socialism is government ownership and control of the means of production of the entire economy.   Americans, through their elected representatives, will collectively agree, perhaps, at some point in the future, to adopt Medicare for all.  If they do, that will be no different that agreeing to have government take the lead in snow plowing, electricity delivery, or road/bridge/tunnel/dam/canal construction and  maintenance.  No one is saying that there will be unanimity in adopting that program, but I am sure that there was not unanimity when the interstate highway system was built either.  If you are SO dead set against government involvement in health care, **** move.... but I'd be interested to hear where you think you go where government is LESS involved in healthcare than here.  Mexico?  nope.  Canada? nope.
Great Britain?  nope?  Anywhere in the EU?  nope. 
 

Canada is socialist.

maineman » 30 Jan 2023, 4:25 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jan 2023, 4:25 pm

maineman, who is currently on your ignore list, made this post.
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You saying something peewee??

Didn't make it past those IMBECILE FILTERS AGAIN!! Think you get to stay there until you learn to say PLEASE and YES SIR!!
 

FJB » 30 Jan 2023, 4:27 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jan 2023, 4:27 pm

Canada is socialist.

^^^ everyone take a look at @FJB   while  he cranes his neck and looks skyward as my point flies WAY over his head!

hahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahhahahahahahahahahahaha

Beekeeper » 30 Jan 2023, 4:30 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jan 2023, 4:30 pm

You saying something peewee??

Didn't make it past those IMBECILE FILTERS AGAIN!! Think you get to stay there until you learn to say PLEASE and YES SIR!!

^^^ white flags come in lots of different sizes, eh?

maineman » 30 Jan 2023, 4:31 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jan 2023, 4:31 pm

^^^ white flags come in lots of different sizes, eh?

Maine is always waving a white flag

maineman » 30 Jan 2023, 4:31 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jan 2023, 4:31 pm

maineman, who is currently on your ignore list, made this post.
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https://i.pinimg.com/originals/47/4f/49 ... 9361b3.jpg

Here is another classified crackhead hunter email:

Today we have another email showing more Biden family crimes.

A second email on Hunter’s laptop shows that Hunter Biden had access to classified information and used it to the Biden family’s financial advantage.

Please Note: This email is original source data taken directly from the Hunter Biden laptop computer by the investigator working with John Paul Mac Isaac. This is the only source of the verifiable content for the Hunter Biden laptop. The chain of custody is known and complete. This is the only source that has chain of custody verification, has been authenticated and came from the original image from the Hunter Biden laptop.

The Biden’s were asked to obtain visas for Burisma executives to travel to the US in early November of 2015. In a response to the request, Hunter Biden and Devon Archer reached out to a friend with ties to the US Deep State, John Sandweg.

John Sandweg worked as the Acting Director of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement from August 2013 to February 2014. Sandweg had a short tenure working in this role for the Obama administration.

Schwerin shared this information with Burisma, Hunter, and Devon Archer.

Here are the problems with what was revealed in this email.

Sandweg worked for Homeland Security and Customs last in 2014 and this email was from November 2015.

Sandweg obtains information from the Department of Homeland Security and Customs databases which he should not have access to. He may have a security clearance but this would not grant him access to the systems. The information that he obtained on the visa application denial is classified.

Sandweg shares the classified visa information with Hunter’s firm which is not a government agency.

Hunter’s firm shares the classified information that he never should have had with Burisma, a foreign company – this is espionage.

See the email string below.

Visa Denial Hunter by Jim Hoft on Scribd

These are crimes and we have more coming… Stay tuned!

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/0 ... 2023-01-30
 

maineman » 30 Jan 2023, 4:31 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jan 2023, 4:31 pm

^^^ white flags come in lots of different sizes, eh?

so do false flag narratives to gods and countries.

In many areas of the rural United States, fire protection is paid for by a property tax paid each year or through some sort of alternative funding mechanism such as subscription services.

johndnorth » 30 Jan 2023, 7:03 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jan 2023, 7:03 pm

In many areas of the rural United States, fire protection is paid for by a property tax paid each year or through some sort of alternative funding mechanism such as subscription services.

Don't those rugged individuals just take care of their own fires when they start?  Isn't relying on some sort of government funded service starting down the slippery slope toward pure communism?    


 

johndnorth » 30 Jan 2023, 7:03 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jan 2023, 7:03 pm

In many areas of the rural United States, fire protection is paid for by a property tax paid each year or through some sort of alternative funding mechanism such as subscription services.

When you go to register your car every year, that's when they tack on all that ****

School, EMS, library etc...
 
 

maineman » 30 Jan 2023, 7:22 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jan 2023, 7:22 pm

Don't those rugged individuals just take care of their own fires when they start?  Isn't relying on some sort of government funded service starting down the slippery slope toward pure communism?    

j/k
 

In your society's trained mind, yes. In your fertilized cell's nucleus being your evolved by birth brain, no.

Beekeeper » 25 Jan 2023, 9:08 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jan 2023, 9:08 am

OH MY!!

So Classified info being LEFT LAYING AROUND so Hunter could PROVE he was "the smartest man I know" and get that $83,000 a month Burisma (Ukraine) job!! WE HAVE THE EVIDENCE!! Now it's TIME TO PUT THESE TRAITORS IN FRONT OF THE FIRING SQUAD!!

And 10% "for the Big Guy" who ran the operation in the first place and it's none other than TRAITOR JOE BIDEN!!

On April 13, 2014, Hunter Biden sent an email to his business partner in Burisma, Devon Archer. Now, he sent this a week before his father, the vice president, flew to Ukraine to meet with Ukraine's prime minister. In the email, Hunter Biden composed a detailed memo with nearly two dozen data points about the political and strategic situation on the ground in Ukraine. What's so immediately striking and Miranda Devine pointed this out, having read the entire laptop, is that this email bears no resemblance to anything else we have that Hunter Biden has ever written. In fact, it sounded like something produced by the State Department.

 There's no question that Hunter Biden used classified materials to assemble this email. Listen carefully: "The strategic values to create a land bridge for RU to Crimea," he writes at one point. Notice he uses the diplomatic abbreviation for Russia, RU, because he's in the know. "That won't directly affect Burisma holdings, but it will limit future UK exploration and utilization of offshore opportunities in particular." "It will also," Hunter Biden added, "further destabilize the UK nationally and for whatever government is in power and the US will respond with even stronger sanctions. Those sanctions will threaten the tenuous support of the EU, which does not have the political will to incur steep energy price increases" and so on.

https://twitter.com/mirandadevine/statu ... r-n2618714

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/12Wfq8ACmrk
 
 

So mrMainegrl, @maineman  , If Medicare for all isn't "socialism", then please explain to us why your Democratic Socialists of America call it SOCIALISM?? Aren't they your "little d" Democracy folks??

https://medicareforall.dsausa.org/organ ... re-for-all


 

Says a Twitter account.

Justthetruth » 31 Jan 2023, 9:13 am » wrote: ↑

31 Jan 2023, 9:13 am

Says a Twitter account.

Wrong thread, msDoofus.

 

My evidence is a tweet.



Anybody can tweet that has an account.