Liberal Forum

ROG62 » 25 Jan 2023, 7:44 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jan 2023, 7:44 pm

So why is it going to take over a yr to deliver?

I see your point.
Nice.

I am putting you in charge of logistics.
Happy now ?                               


https://youtu.be/PS5yfhPGaWE






        

Taipan » 25 Jan 2023, 12:41 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jan 2023, 12:41 pm

Mr Putin,
German tanks are now moving into Ukraine.
We are backing Germany.
We are sending 31 M1-Abram tanks in support of the German tanks.
31.   Why not make it an even 100??
M1 Abram tank is the meanest dog on Earth.

Doesn't this feel good ??
U.S., England, France, Germany, Poland , & Norway on the same side.
Doesn't this feel ....."just right" ??

Mr. Putin,
Why are your generals blanching white??      What are they afraid of ?
I thought you said you wanted to fight, little girl.
Our dogs are killer-dogs.
They can out-fight all your dogs.

"War.......is the nature of the Beast".
                                                                    Casca.
                                                                    The Eternal Mercenary.
Tai-Dog & @Squatchman  will take one of those tanks.
I will be in charge.    It will take me less than 6hrs. to figure out how
operate that tank.                                             

https://youtu.be/0Xc4ckTTQN0

you should go look up how easy it was for the houthis in yemen to take out abrams tanks. They are actually pretty ****.

tanks are not very useful in modern warfare. They are far too easy to take out from above and from anti tank weapons. 

RU (as Hunter identifies Russia) never used Armor correctly. The most glaring deficiency was the lack of Infantry and Armor integration tactics. The lack of communications and comm. security made integration impossible. Tanks were sitting ducks for Javelins fired by infantry.

"Hey!Cowboy;
We don't allow drunken rowdy cowboys in our saloon!"
You still haven't paid for the big mirror and the fine china you broke!" And the marshal has an outstanding warrant for your arrest from the Dodge City fracus"
@Taipan  
 

nuckinfutz » 25 Jan 2023, 9:48 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jan 2023, 9:48 pm

"Hey!Cowboy;
We don't allow drunken rowdy cowboys in our saloon!"
You still haven't paid for the big mirror and the fine china you broke!" And the marshal has an outstanding warrant for your arrest from the Dodge City fracus"
@Taipan  

You win, deputy.
I surrender.
I was drunk.
I got out of line.
I hang my head in shame.
I am guilty on all charges.
No excuses offered.
I will pay-up.         
No problema.         
Peace.                                                                             


 

m1-abram tanks can go fast over super smooth roads. but less than 1 mile per hour over bumpy surfaces. even there, the people in the tank have their teeth jarred out. and they sink in mud. m1-abram tanks are sitting ducks in modern war.

FOS » 25 Jan 2023, 9:02 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jan 2023, 9:02 pm

you should go look up how easy it was for the houthis in yemen to take out abrams tanks. They are actually pretty ****.

tanks are not very useful in modern warfare. They are far too easy to take out from above and from anti tank weapons.

OK.........
Here is my proposal--
We start landing 1,000 F-35 Lighting II's at Ram-stein Air Base, just outside of Berlin.
Tomorrow morning.
Why?
Air Superiority.
We are mercenaries............begging for war.
The Russian will sue for peace..........or they bleed to death where they stand.
We are Fighter jet pilots out of San Antonio!!
We fly up-side down.
We will fly our jets up Yo Mama's pretty dress.
And make her like it !!                                                                       

https://youtu.be/kUsFWO08CO0

 

walkingstick » 26 Jan 2023, 2:53 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2023, 2:53 am

m1-abram tanks can go fast over super smooth roads. but less than 1 mile per hour over bumpy surfaces. even there, the people in the tank have their teeth jarred out. and they sink in mud. m1-abram tanks are sitting ducks in modern war.

They can level any city on Earth.

With, unbroken supply line,  (fuel, ammo & food)........
they are deadly animals.
The Abrams can still chew the meat off of the bone.                          

https://youtu.be/qxZInIyOBXk

 

nuckinfutz » 25 Jan 2023, 1:20 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jan 2023, 1:20 pm

Take that back! Why are you rootin for Putin?
That is TREASON!        

What in the Hell happened to you? You used to make sense?
 

I will side with you, Cali.
They say that I am a heavy-duty, deadly Texas Rattlesnake.
We will see.
I like this game.                                

https://youtu.be/Bbaz_T6BN3g



 

Putin has to think America is at war with him doesnt he?

Selaphobia » 25 Jan 2023, 5:38 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jan 2023, 5:38 pm

If the USA is going to spend all that money, I prefer it be spent on fixing the US Border or other issues at home.
Let the EU pay for it. It is in their backyard, not mine. The USA has no money to be giving away. We are running on a deficit.

Prior to December 7th, 1941, the mood of the United States was isolationism and non-involvement in the Wars in Europe and China.

How'd that work out for this nation?

walkingstick » 26 Jan 2023, 2:53 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2023, 2:53 am

m1-abram tanks can go fast over super smooth roads. but less than 1 mile per hour over bumpy surfaces. even there, the people in the tank have their teeth jarred out. and they sink in mud. m1-abram tanks are sitting ducks in modern war.

You have no idea what you are talking about. The M1-A2 Abrams tank is designed to run as fast on "bumpy" roads as it is on paved ones. The fact it is ON TRACKS means that "bumps" are not creating any ride quality issue and along with the independent suspension system across all the track rollers, assures that no one gets their teeth jarred out of their mouth. Add to that, the Abrams tanks has been used MORE than effectively in several "modern" theaters of war and proven one of THE most effective armaments on the battlefield.

"Tis better to have people think you are a fool than to open your mouth and prove it".

Taipan » 25 Jan 2023, 8:23 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jan 2023, 8:23 pm

I see your point.
Nice.

I am putting you in charge of logistics.
Happy now ?                               

https://youtu.be/PS5yfhPGaWE

        

 

Selaphobia » 25 Jan 2023, 7:53 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jan 2023, 7:53 pm

what is going to take over a year to deliver?

US Abrahms...

ROG62 » 26 Jan 2023, 7:43 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2023, 7:43 am

US Abrahms...

Actually it's not. 30 days and they will be fully operational. You have to consider that ALL of the older M1-A1 Abrams are being completely refitted with new armament, newer armor, and also newer aiming hardware and software, that there are HUNDREDS of them ready to roll right now.

There is a rebuild shop in Florida where they do all these retrofits into the M1-A2 unit and I know that RR flat cars full of them are moved monthly to Ft Benning Georgia for training AND relocation to wherever needed.

Taipan » 25 Jan 2023, 12:41 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jan 2023, 12:41 pm

Mr Putin,
German tanks are now moving into Ukraine.
We are backing Germany.
We are sending 31 M1-Abram tanks in support of the German tanks.
31.   Why not make it an even 100??
M1 Abram tank is the meanest dog on Earth.

Doesn't this feel good ??
U.S., England, France, Germany, Poland , & Norway on the same side.
Doesn't this feel ....."just right" ??

Mr. Putin,
Why are your generals blanching white??      What are they afraid of ?
I thought you said you wanted to fight, little girl.
Our dogs are killer-dogs.
They can out-fight all your dogs.

"War.......is the nature of the Beast".
                                                                    Casca.
                                                                    The Eternal Mercenary.
Tai-Dog & @Squatchman  will take one of those tanks.
I will be in charge.    It will take me less than 6hrs. to figure out how
operate that tank.                                             

https://youtu.be/0Xc4ckTTQN0

  The only thing that would feel right is turning off the TV news programing, chucking the microwave walkie talkie cell phone in the trash and moving into a well stocked fallout shelter.
 

BuckNaked » 26 Jan 2023, 6:37 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2023, 6:37 am

Putin has to think America is at war with him doesnt he?

by proxy ...

RebelGator » 25 Jan 2023, 5:57 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jan 2023, 5:57 pm

That suggestion is why stupid **** like you are not in charge of anything but getting your butthole plumbed. You want to committ half your forces in a narrow window that could be destroyed with minimal effort.

And which branch of the military service did you serve in, eh General ****?
 

Beekeeper » 26 Jan 2023, 6:54 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2023, 6:54 am

You have no idea what you are talking about. The M1-A2 Abrams tank is designed to run as fast on "bumpy" roads as it is on paved ones. The fact it is ON TRACKS means that "bumps" are not creating any ride quality issue and along with the independent suspension system across all the track rollers, assures that no one gets their teeth jarred out of their mouth. Add to that, the Abrams tanks has been used MORE than effectively in several "modern" theaters of war and proven one of THE most effective armaments on the battlefield.

"Tis better to have people think you are a fool than to open your mouth and prove it".

Power is derived from a Honeywell AGT1500C multi-fuel turbine engine developing 1,500 horsepower mated to an Allison DDA X-1100-3B transmission. Specifications include a top road speed of 42 miles per hour and a top off-road speed of 30 miles per hour - in this respect, it was not uncommon to hear Abrams tank crews describe their mount as the "Cadillac of tanks". The power-to-weight ratio is listed at 24.5 hp/metric ton while suspension is accomplished through use of a torsion bar assembly. Range is reportedly limited to 289 miles.©MilitaryFactory.com

https://www.militaryfactory.com/armor/d ... armor_id=1

 @walkingstick  
 

ROG62 » 26 Jan 2023, 8:42 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2023, 8:42 am

Power is derived from a Honeywell AGT1500C multi-fuel turbine engine developing 1,500 horsepower mated to an Allison DDA X-1100-3B transmission. Specifications include a top road speed of 42 miles per hour and a top off-road speed of 30 miles per hour - in this respect, it was not uncommon to hear Abrams tank crews describe their mount as the "Cadillac of tanks". The power-to-weight ratio is listed at 24.5 hp/metric ton while suspension is accomplished through use of a torsion bar assembly. Range is reportedly limited to 289 miles.©MilitaryFactory.com

https://www.militaryfactory.com/armor/d ... armor_id=1

 @walkingstick

That's a lot of technology to dump into the laps of the Russians.  I mean, if we don't have American tank operators, are we not simply handing over at least some of these tanks to the Russians?  I would hope that all of them, at a minimum, have been equipped with self-destruct capability via satellite.