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ConsRule » 01 Feb 2023, 5:08 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Feb 2023, 5:08 pm

Would I do that? Not no, but HELL NO!

I have a wonderful wife, two amazing children and three almost perfect grandchildren (at least in PawPaw's eyes).  Everything I experienced in life made me the person that she was attracted to.  Her being the mother of our children played a large role in who they are now.  Why would I risk EVERYTHING that is really important for a crap shoot?  Add to that, there is no way in hell I would want to go through many of the things in my past again that wouldn't change with the start over at 18.

There's wisdom in what you say...

In the movie Death Becomes Her, the husband (Bruce Willis) is offered the magic potion.
As the muse describes the wonderfulness of immortality, he pauses and says,
"What if I get bored? This isn't a dream... It's a nightmare!"

I am old enough to understand that.
Coupled with your post, only a fool would just jump at the offer without a thought.

Unless you have a crappy life currently the risks are worth considering.
Not every choice I made in this life was a bad one. I might **** those up...

On the plus  side, it isn't immortality being offered.
 

Skans » 02 Feb 2023, 10:00 am » wrote: ↑

02 Feb 2023, 10:00 am

Even if you get to keep your soul (intact) and accepting the deal would have no impact one way or another on whether you shall remain in God's grace?

Not a **** thing.

 

Skans » 01 Feb 2023, 4:58 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Feb 2023, 4:58 pm

Would you take this deal?

• You could go back in time and be 18 years old, and retain your knowledge of everything you learned up to this point in your life.
• You get to relive your life, but not only that, you get to use the information you have at this time, even in the past.  For example, you could play the stock market knowing what you know now, but back whenever you were 18 - to whatever age you are now.  Or, make different personal choices, etc.
• There's no  "gotcha's" - you don't have to sell your soul and nothing "bad" will necessarily happen to you.  However, you will have to live with your new decisions, choices and consequences. 
• Once you go back, your life will go by in real time - there's no jumping forward or back again - this is your one "do-over", but everything gets done over and it is doubtful that things will end up exactly the same as your life is right now.
• As an added bonus, if you are presently 70 years old for example (or whatever age you are), this would (potentially) give you 52 more years of life (in addition to whatever you've still got left).  So, the older you are, you're sort of cheating death!

So, which of you would take this deal?

By the Devil do you mean God?

Deals are made bcuz one is unhappy with their life. 

I have no regrets. 
 

Pastafarian » 02 Feb 2023, 10:40 am » wrote: ↑

02 Feb 2023, 10:40 am

By the Devil do you mean God?

Deals are made bcuz one is unhappy with their life. 

I have no regrets.

You could interpret it that way, if you choose.
 
 

Why assume that "the Devil" has the power to do this?
Why even assume that "the Devil"even exists?

Xavier_Onassis » 02 Feb 2023, 11:40 am » wrote: ↑

02 Feb 2023, 11:40 am

Why assume that "the Devil" has the power to do this?
Why even assume that "the Devil"even exists?
 

If time travel has been invented at some time in the future, then we would know about it, because we would
be visited by time travelers from the future.
They would also visit the past, perhaps just trying to do good.

You'd be reading a history book and <POOF!>   Hitler and the Nazis would vanish.
 

Xavier_Onassis » 02 Feb 2023, 11:40 am » wrote: ↑

02 Feb 2023, 11:40 am

Why assume that "the Devil" has the power to do this?
Why even assume that "the Devil"even exists?

Simply for the purpose of discussion. 
 

Xavier_Onassis » 02 Feb 2023, 11:44 am » wrote: ↑

02 Feb 2023, 11:44 am

If time travel has been invented at some time in the future, then we would know about it, because we would
be visited by time travelers from the future.
They would also visit the past, perhaps just trying to do good.

You'd be reading a history book and <POOF!>   Hitler and the Nazis would vanish.

That would be a violation of the Temporal Prime Directive.  SFC § 85765.566 (Star Date 2371).  Oh, and before you declare that Star Trek is just science fiction:
Stronger than glass, various military and commercial applications
for this remarkable material are already being tested.
What was once used in the science-fiction Star Trek Movies, see-through aluminum has
been reality for nearly a decade now.
   

Skans » 01 Feb 2023, 4:58 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Feb 2023, 4:58 pm

Would you take this deal?

• You could go back in time and be 18 years old, and retain your knowledge of everything you learned up to this point in your life.
• You get to relive your life, but not only that, you get to use the information you have at this time, even in the past.  For example, you could play the stock market knowing what you know now, but back whenever you were 18 - to whatever age you are now.  Or, make different personal choices, etc.
• There's no  "gotcha's" - you don't have to sell your soul and nothing "bad" will necessarily happen to you.  However, you will have to live with your new decisions, choices and consequences. 
• Once you go back, your life will go by in real time - there's no jumping forward or back again - this is your one "do-over", but everything gets done over and it is doubtful that things will end up exactly the same as your life is right now.
• As an added bonus, if you are presently 70 years old for example (or whatever age you are), this would (potentially) give you 52 more years of life (in addition to whatever you've still got left).  So, the older you are, you're sort of cheating death!

So, which of you would take this deal?

St. Peter at the Pearly Gates gives you a choice.
Stay, or go back & play the game again.       "Reincarnation".
I am going to choose to come back.     Hell, I like this game!!

"I was a sailor.  I was born upon the tide".
                                                                                  Kris Krisstofferson.
                                                                                  The Highwayman.
https://youtu.be/qFSA8-pxrqc
 

Skans » 02 Feb 2023, 10:00 am » wrote: ↑

02 Feb 2023, 10:00 am

Even if you get to keep your soul (intact) and accepting the deal would have no impact one way or another on whether you shall remain in God's grace?

if you was an atheist you could take the deal

but then you would have to admit that there is a devil 

but how could there be a devil if there is no God ?   

dang it, I thought I was onto something there 

Yeh, I want to do it all again. Anybody who doesn't want to relive their youth musta had a **** life

SJConspirator » 02 Feb 2023, 12:39 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Feb 2023, 12:39 pm

Yeh, I want to do it all again. Anybody who doesn't want to relive their youth musta had a **** life

I  wouldn't take it. Know why? i would think it was a conspiracy or a trick.   
The devil once told me to polish off a box of cookies.
 

sootedupCyndi » 02 Feb 2023, 1:00 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Feb 2023, 1:00 pm

I  wouldn't take it. Know why? i would think it was a conspiracy or a trick.   
The devil once told me to polish off a box of cookies.

LOL..............
Working !!                                     

Mrkelly » 02 Feb 2023, 12:35 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Feb 2023, 12:35 pm

if you was an atheist you could take the deal

but then you would have to admit that there is a devil 

but how could there be a devil if there is no God ?   

dang it, I thought I was onto something there
 

Maybe you're an atheist who believes there is no god because the Devil ate him.  Right @Xavier_Onassis?
 

Skans » 01 Feb 2023, 4:58 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Feb 2023, 4:58 pm

Would you take this deal?

• You could go back in time and be 18 years old, and retain your knowledge of everything you learned up to this point in your life.
• You get to relive your life, but not only that, you get to use the information you have at this time, even in the past.  For example, you could play the stock market knowing what you know now, but back whenever you were 18 - to whatever age you are now.  Or, make different personal choices, etc.
• There's no  "gotcha's" - you don't have to sell your soul and nothing "bad" will necessarily happen to you.  However, you will have to live with your new decisions, choices and consequences. 
• Once you go back, your life will go by in real time - there's no jumping forward or back again - this is your one "do-over", but everything gets done over and it is doubtful that things will end up exactly the same as your life is right now.
• As an added bonus, if you are presently 70 years old for example (or whatever age you are), this would (potentially) give you 52 more years of life (in addition to whatever you've still got left).  So, the older you are, you're sort of cheating death!

So, which of you would take this deal?

No. ssdd keeps things the same over and over. Until humanity is shut down from its original intent, corruption until extinction won't stop.

Remember Devil is in the details to rule of law defending character projections cradle to grave not ancestors existing inception to extinction added in series parallel displacement by the numbers here now. there is a specific compounding sequence that works the same for all reproductions native to a specific atmosphere universally present now, forward.

Nostradamus'omh » 02 Feb 2023, 1:12 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Feb 2023, 1:12 pm

No. ssdd keeps things the same over and over. Until humanity is shut down from its original intent, corruption until extinction won't stop.

Who doesn't like a little corruption, Sole?  I like to spread some on my toast in the A.M.
 

Skans » 02 Feb 2023, 1:15 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Feb 2023, 1:15 pm

Who doesn't like a little corruption, Sole?  I like to spread some on my toast in the A.M.
 

winners and losers concepts come from corruption. Leaderships and fellowships are tiered social order comes from corruption. Nobody knows what living does in actual time comes from corruption.

Calamity, chaos, mayhem, madness, misery comes from hoping, believing, eliminating anyone not faithful to ideas eternity is beyond life taking place now remains as long as dishonesty prevails.

Skans » 02 Feb 2023, 11:58 am » wrote: ↑

02 Feb 2023, 11:58 am

That would be a violation of the Temporal Prime Directive.  SFC § 85765.566 (Star Date 2371).  Oh, and before you declare that Star Trek is just science fiction:
Stronger than glass, various military and commercial applications
for this remarkable material are already being tested.
What was once used in the science-fiction Star Trek Movies, see-through aluminum has
been reality for nearly a decade now.
 

I have said nothing at all about see through aluminum.  I am pretty sure that it was not mentioned at all on Star Trek or Star Wars.
Star Trek is science fiction,but it is THOUGHTFUL sci-fi, as opposed to the sci-fi where the hero scientist wins battles with rubberoid monsters and/or little green men.   Star Wars movies are more like war films that take place in outer space,but they are still way better than the usual sci-films of the 1950's.

Skans » 01 Feb 2023, 5:04 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Feb 2023, 5:04 pm

That's my business. But, my deal is exactly as stated - there are no hidden "gotchas".

If there are no 'gotchs', then it's impossible to have a deal with the devil. That's the whole point of messing with the devil. There is some kind of payment in return. 

I suppose it is only fair that I should answer the question.

I would not take the deal. If I did, I would end up living a life and an eternity of heartbreak and painful regret trying to get back what I already have.

The money. The different opportunities - all would make me something I wasn't at the time I met my wife - we would likely not meet or if we did, not fall in love. And, it would be impossible to get my child back - lost forever, but with that memory forever haunting me. Thrown away like garbage and for what? A chance to make more money and to **** like a wild wolf again?  Throwing away those who you love most of all and who love you. 

For me, the Devil would win this deal.  He wouldn't need my soul, wouldn't even want it because it would be left vapid and empty as soon as I said "yes". He wouldn't need a damn thing from me.  God blessed me with the family I have - I prayed for this family.  My suffering would be eternal if I were to take that deal.

But, I realize the Devil doesn't always win either.  What if I never married; never had children?  Or, what if I married a hateful woman?  Or, cheated on my wife and divorced without fathering children?  Or, jilted a girlfriend I actually could have made a life with for sexual escapades which lead nowhere except to my own loneliness?

I might take that deal. I would have little to nothing to lose, and perhaps everything to gain.

What if I had a wife and child whom I loved very much, who were the love of my life, but lost them in a vehicle accident decades ago?  Would I take the deal?  Knowing I would never spend a day in my life with the child I once loved dearly, but lost.  Oh, maybe I could recreate a life with my wife who died and even keep her from dying.  But, the odds say I completely erased that dear child of mine from ever even existing.  Could I live with that for all eternity?