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Bob » 03 Feb 2023, 10:49 am » wrote: ↑

03 Feb 2023, 10:49 am

 
  Stevia and other unnecessary stuff is added into the food-water = population reduction. The current solution is to bring a new population into the USA area instead of solving problems that reduce population. USA is only a small percentage of world population.

Pagan barbarian war slavers want you to have a small sick non reproducing population and you want this kind of situation too, win-win deal.

Yes, there are those Nazis and Fascists who seek to control the world population.  The Georgia Guidestones were monument to that fact. GMO isn't really part of that.  But, you can go on believing it.  I don't really care.
 

Xavier_Onassis » 03 Feb 2023, 10:39 am » wrote: ↑

03 Feb 2023, 10:39 am

So Skans' question is not even original. Rightwingers lack creativity and want to return to some ideal past that never was.


 

Past, present, future is filled by evolving forward in the moment here. Compounding events have one core, time each cycle lasts never same again now. hint, adapt or become extinct.

Total sum delivered is never duplicated twice as the new total sum just arrived.

Skans » 03 Feb 2023, 10:41 am » wrote: ↑

03 Feb 2023, 10:41 am

Clearly, you didn't understand the deal.

So you think that calling yourself  some kind of omnipotent Devil is creative?
Time travel is almost certainly  impossible,because we exist in time,and cannot exist outside of time.

There are no time machines,but let's assume that one is possible and speculate how it might work:

Suppose you were born in 1980.  So you get into the Time Machine and decide to visit Woodstock.You set the dial for August 15, 1969.
But you are not immune to time,so you find that you are suffering the effects as you grow younger and shorter and you cannot reach thecontrols,so when you pass 1980,<*POOF!*>  you vanish, because you cannot exist before you are born.

Or suppose that you are born in 1980 and want to see what 2424 is like: will it be like Ziger and Evans sang about, But when you hit 2070,you pas your life expectancy and you DIE.Because as a temporal being, you cannot exist past the life expectancy of your body.

People who write about time travel and time machines seem to assume that time does not change within the Time Machine. But why would that be so? Why should we assume that there is a place anywhere in which time does not exist. I say that is ****.

Of course,time machines are like warp drive and the StarTrek Transporter: nonexistent,impossible devices that make sci-fi more entertaining.

Xavier_Onassis » 03 Feb 2023, 11:11 am » wrote: ↑

03 Feb 2023, 11:11 am

So you think that calling yourself  some kind of omnipotent Devil is creative?
Time travel is almost certainly  impossible,because we exist in time,and cannot exist outside of time.

There are no time machines,but let's assume that one is possible and speculate how it might work:

Suppose you were born in 1980.  So you get into the Time Machine and decide to visit Woodstock.You set the dial for August 15, 1969.
But you are not immune to time,so you find that you are suffering the effects as you grow younger and shorter and you cannot reach thecontrols,so when you pass 1980,<*POOF!*>  you vanish, because you cannot exist before you are born.

Or suppose that you are born in 1980 and want to see what 2424 is like: will it be like Ziger and Evans sang about, But when you hit 2070,you pas your life expectancy and you DIE.Because as a temporal being, you cannot exist past the life expectancy of your body.

People who write about time travel and time machines seem to assume that time does not change within the Time Machine. But why would that be so? Why should we assume that there is a place anywhere in which time does not exist. I say that is ****.

Of course,time machines are like warp drive and the StarTrek Transporter: nonexistent,impossible devices that make sci-fi more entertaining.

Oh the induced social mind trying to overrule instinctive awareness really does produce context such as ^^^^^^^.

Do you claim to have "instinctive awareness"that humans are somehow capable of existing outside of time when at the controls of a time machine?

Xavier_Onassis » 03 Feb 2023, 11:11 am » wrote: ↑

03 Feb 2023, 11:11 am

So you think that calling yourself  some kind of omnipotent Devil is creative?

The scenario is a curious one and an interesting one to me.  I am not concerned whether someone else has thought of something similar, but I can assure you I did not "cut&paste" it from somewhere. 

You have free will to choose to answer it or not.  I have read all of the answers and find them quite interesting.  To be fair, I even answered it myself.  But, if you are offended by it, or fear the answer might reveal something to a part of you that you keep closed off, or to others, then don't answer it.

Time travel is almost certainly  impossible,because we exist in time,and cannot exist outside of time.

Irrelevant.  Clearly this is not an exercise in reality.  If you thought it was, then you are mistaken.

There are no time machines,but let's assume that one is possible and speculate how it might work:

Suppose you were born in 1980.  So you get into the Time Machine and decide to visit Woodstock.You set the dial for August 15, 1969.
But you are not immune to time,so you find that you are suffering the effects as you grow younger and shorter and you cannot reach thecontrols,so when you pass 1980,<*POOF!*>  you vanish, because you cannot exist before you are born.

All  of this is highly speculative and pure conjecture on your part.  But, even more so, it is completely irrelevant.  This is far from an exercise in how time travel might work.

Or suppose that you are born in 1980 and want to see what 2424 is like: will it be like Ziger and Evans sang about, But when you hit 2070,you pas your life expectancy and you DIE.Because as a temporal being, you cannot exist past the life expectancy of your body.

More irrelevant speculation.  I would be more than glad to discuss time-travel paradoxes in another thread, but that's not what this is about. 

People who write about time travel and time machines seem to assume that time does not change within the Time Machine.

Writers, good ones anyway, effectively use time travel to explore a particular aspect of the human condition.  If I want to know more about the technical feasibility or impossibility of time travel, I would dedicate my life to studying quantum mechanics. The question I asked was a metaphysical one, not intended to solicit theories about  quantum mechanics.

But why would that be so? Why should we assume that there is a place anywhere in which time does not exist. I say that is ****.

While not relevant to the discussion, I do not believe that time exists.  It is an imaginary measurement construct of humans. It is nothing more than one aspect of our incomplete way of attempting to describe how things happen in relation to other things.

Of course,time machines are like warp drive and the StarTrek Transporter: nonexistent,impossible devices that make sci-fi more entertaining.

I am disheartened by the fact that you, an educator, seem to completely misunderstand what good science fiction is really all about.

 
 

Xavier_Onassis » 03 Feb 2023, 11:26 am » wrote: ↑

03 Feb 2023, 11:26 am

Do you claim to have "instinctive awareness"that humans are somehow capable of existing outside of time when at the controls of a time machine?

Not the time they have adapting to the moment existing conceived to decomposed, but the time relativity assigned intellectually living cradle to grave, yes.

I agree with you time tavel cannot happen but with separate reasons, molecular content is already used so there is no extra to change back into previus generations or future that only is developing forward now as a whole of each individual conceived to any species ancestrally lived or still reproducing, or veriety within or new species added. It(being the additions) will or won't reproduce one at a time in each mating cycles numbers delivered from the mating ritual of two parenting another generation gap.

See the compounding combinations by binary code of 0 or 1. did or didn't happen. but what is happening is everything that does exist as univerally positioned from existing as eternally separated total sum of events left evolving currently here.

Kinetic self evident you included and I am no exception. Equally created separated conditions, ssdd.

Skans » 03 Feb 2023, 11:42 am » wrote: ↑

03 Feb 2023, 11:42 am

The scenario is a curious one and an interesting one to me.  I am not concerned whether someone else has thought of something similar, but I can assure you I did not "cut&paste" it from somewhere. 

You have free will to choose to answer it or not.  I have read all of the answers and find them quite interesting.  To be fair, I even answered it myself.  But, if you are offended by it, or fear the answer might reveal something to a part of you that you keep closed off, or to others, then don't answer it.

Irrelevant.  Clearly this is not an exercise in reality.  If you thought it was, then you are mistaken.

All  of this is highly speculative and pure conjecture on your part.  But, even more so, it is completely irrelevant.  This is far from an exercise in how time travel might work.

More irrelevant speculation.  I would be more than glad to discuss time-travel paradoxes in another thread, but that's not what this is about. 

Writers, good ones anyway, effectively use time travel to explore a particular aspect of the human condition.  If I want to know more about the technical feasibility or impossibility of time travel, I would dedicate my life to studying quantum mechanics. The question I asked was a metaphysical one, not intended to solicit theories about  quantum mechanics.

While not relevant to the discussion, I do not believe that time exists.  It is an imaginary measurement construct of humans. It is nothing more than one aspect of our incomplete way of attempting to describe how things happen in relation to other things.

I am disheartened by the fact that you, an educator, seem to completely misunderstand what good science fiction is really all about.

Good science fiction  has a multitude of topics.Time travel is one of them.Good science fiction is, above all else, ENTERTAINING. I enjoy a good time travel story, even though it is bad science.Bad science is probably necessary for most good science fiction.

LOTS of fiction is based on imaginary occurrences,not just science fiction.   Was there ever a King Lear with three daughters?  Was there ever a Yossarian?

Time is obviously real. Just as space is real. We interpret and measure both time and space

Skans » 03 Feb 2023, 9:55 am » wrote: ↑

03 Feb 2023, 9:55 am

I have to say, I don't understand this.  If your late teens/early 20's sucked, wouldn't you want to go back to that time and have a "re-do"?  What's the point in going back in time to the part of your life that you loved and "re-do" it?

I would want to be past all the entanglements (as I did eventually accomplish).
There really wouldn't be enough gained at 18 knowing "this will end" by 25 to make it worthwhile.
I already knew what I had to do at 18 to reverse my situation. I just didn't really know how long it would take.
That little particle of knowledge wouldn't have helped that much. The hard work still had to be done.

To be honest, I might have been able to shave a couple years off of the effort.
**** it though; in this fantasy, might as well jump to the end of the crap.  

Cannonpointer » 03 Feb 2023, 2:25 am » wrote: ↑

03 Feb 2023, 2:25 am

EVERYONE has regrets, you lyin' yard ape.

You must have done some nasty **** in your life to regret it. 

 

Pastafarian » 04 Feb 2023, 11:59 am » wrote: ↑

04 Feb 2023, 11:59 am

You must have done some nasty **** in your life to regret it.

If I met you, I bet there would be regrets

FJB » 04 Feb 2023, 12:04 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Feb 2023, 12:04 pm

If I met you, I bet there would be regrets

For you. 
 
 

Pastafarian » 04 Feb 2023, 11:59 am » wrote: ↑

04 Feb 2023, 11:59 am

Cannonpointer » 03 Feb 2023, 2:25 am » wrote: ↑

03 Feb 2023, 2:25 am

EVERYONE has regrets, you lyin' yard ape.

You must have done some nasty **** in your life to regret it.

You are why we think nignogs are dummies.

Pastafarian » 04 Feb 2023, 11:59 am » wrote: ↑

04 Feb 2023, 11:59 am

You must have done some nasty **** in your life to regret it. 

 

Life never matched your expectations promised by humanity since birth and you regret your parents dropping you into being alive.

Cannonpointer » 04 Feb 2023, 1:25 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Feb 2023, 1:25 pm

You are why we think nignogs are dummies.

Because I haven’t regretted my choices in life? While you are full of regrets.

No, cum drain, you are the dummy. 




 

Pastafarian » 09 Feb 2023, 6:32 am » wrote: ↑

09 Feb 2023, 6:32 am

Because I haven’t regretted my choices in life? While you are full of regrets.

No, cum drain, you are the dummy. 

Sociopaths never do.

Nostradamus'omh » 09 Feb 2023, 6:39 am » wrote: ↑

09 Feb 2023, 6:39 am

Sociopaths never do.

Sociopaths ruin lives. I do not. 

Regrets can be big and they can be small. The small ones should not be fretted over hence having no regrets. 

It’s like that lyric in the song, “my way”, too few to mention. 
 

Pastafarian » 09 Feb 2023, 6:55 am » wrote: ↑

09 Feb 2023, 6:55 am

Sociopaths ruin lives. I do not. 

Regrets can be big and they can be small. The small ones should not be fretted over hence having no regrets. 

It’s like that lyric in the song, “my way”, too few to mention. 
 

You enable reasonable doubt to justify pretending you never knew your own body doesn't exceed evolving as displaced now. Brain navigates environment adapting to the moment, intellect creates a theater of doubt mutually existing here now is accurate, but statistical averages are true facts living cannot be limited to eternally separated not by relative time logistics.

Earth rotates 360 degrees each rotation nothing stays same total sum twice combined currently here, When did a day become tomorrow if dawn doesn't stop occurring constantly? Don't forget the other 31 constant event horizons in an ever changing population converting each great great grandchild into those arriving as 1 of 16 great great grandparents to the newly added great great grandchildren already born one at a time.

I know what you ignore. I lived through becoming a grandpa when my siblings, one dead, is still close to being 1 of those 16 dead great great grandparents when their existing great grandchildren become 1 of 2 parents or not. Not all their children became a mom or dad. Some did become grandparents.

Simple compounding DNA cycles adapting to the moment here specifically the current population left alive in plain sight now.

guess how I came up with now has always been eternity? Not believing eternal life came from beyond existing evolving here one at a time here now.

Pastafarian » 09 Feb 2023, 6:32 am » wrote: ↑

09 Feb 2023, 6:32 am

Because I haven’t regretted my choices in life? While you are full of regrets.

No, cum drain, you are the dummy.

No, Lips Washington - because you're a lyijn nigga an a bitch, ya bref stank like ****, ya nickname doo-doo and ya mama suck dick. 
 

Cannonpointer » 09 Feb 2023, 10:56 am » wrote: ↑

09 Feb 2023, 10:56 am

No, Lips Washington - because you're a lyijn nigga an a bitch, ya bref stank like ****, ya nickname doo-doo and ya mama suck dick.

Lookey here - 'ol Cannonpointer really did grow up in some Yankee-rat-infested Hood.  He can talk the Hood-talk.