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Str8tEdge » 18 Jul 2014 5:35 am » wrote:So do we..... Medicare, Medicaid, VA, Social Security, public schools, subsidized state colleges, student loans..... Does that make us socialist, RETARD?

by the conservative definition public libraries make us socialist

billbatard » 16 Jul 2019 5:49 pm » wrote: by the conservative definition public libraries make us socialist

UNLESS those libraries are in actual socialist countries, like Singapore.

They divide the world between economically high-functioning and econoically challenged. Then they declare the economically high-functioning "capitalist" and the economically challenged "socialist," to fit their tautology.

They do this with no regard for the facts on the ground, for what they said yesterday, for the definitions THEY have touted, or for their dignity as men.

It's who they are. It's what they are.

Cannonpointer » 16 Jul 2019 6:11 pm » wrote:

billbatard » 16 Jul 2019 5:49 pm » wrote:by the conservative definition public libraries make us socialist

UNLESS those libraries are in actual socialist countries, like Singapore.

They divide the world between economically high-functioning and econoically challenged. Then they declare the economically high-functioning "capitalist" and the economically challenged "socialist," to fit their tautology.

They do this with no regard for the facts on the ground, for what they said yesterday, for the definitions THEY have touted, or for their dignity as men.

It's who they are. It's what they are.

The moonbats are babbling in delusional agreement.

Who **** cares.

Cannonpointer » 16 Jul 2019 5:30 pm » wrote:

Economic freedom is the fundamental right of every human to control his or her own labor and property.

That leaves out Singapore.

The people are not allowed to own property in Singapore.

"Property" refers to private possessions, Dim.

Which Singaporeans have in abundance, it being one of the most prosperous countries on the planet.

Private retirement accounts, health savings accounts, investment beyond what the government mandates.

Business ownership, and I'll bet that's very widespread.

And even the 100 year leases people can have fit the definition of property to some degree, and I'll bet blind it can be transferred for payment.

Are you being stupid and ignorant, or just lying?

That leaves out Singapore. Their citizens are told by government how uch they can wager in a casino. They are not allowed to purchase bubble gum.

Wow, Singapore is obviously a "hellhole," just like you babbled, wackjob.

You sure know issues of vast importance to people's lives.

Systems evolve over time. Socialism has evolved for the better, capitalism for worse

SJConspirator » 16 Jul 2019 6:46 pm » wrote:Systems evolve over time. Socialism has evolved for the better, capitalism for worse

You're just stunningly stupid.

How is Greece doing, wackjob?


Venezuela?


Did they evolve for the better?

Not to mention, more and more countries around the world are adopting Free Market Capitalism, which is why poverty has plummeted for decades now.

Termin8tor » 16 Jul 2019 6:24 pm » wrote: "Property" refers to private possessions, Dim.

Yeah, yeah - they can have consumer goods. Except bubble gum.

Just no REAL property.

Blather on, tard.

Termin8tor » 16 Jul 2019 6:24 pm » wrote: Private retirement accounts, health savings accounts, investment beyond what the government mandates.

All managed by benevolent big brother, and spent how big brother dictates.

FREEDUMB!!!!

Termin8tor » 16 Jul 2019 6:24 pm » wrote: Business ownership, and I'll bet that's very widespread.

Yes, the old, "I'll bet" source - a clemjob standby.

Given the main way Americans acquire wealth is closed to them, "I'll bet" you're full of ****. "I'll bet" they work for a wage because investment money is hard to come by in a regimented system where you cannot buy property and the police can beat you in the street without a judge's order if they catch you chewing gum, you **** retard.

Termin8tor » 16 Jul 2019 6:24 pm » wrote:And even the 100 year leases people can have fit the definition of property to some degree, and I'll bet blind it can be transferred for payment.

Oh, damn - he broke out the BLIND bet to support his mouth poop.

LEASES GO DOWN IN VALUE AS THEY AGE, NOT UP, YOU **** IDIOT.

You cannot build wealth by purchasing a DEPRECIATING asset, you economic illiterate.

Are you being stupid and ignorant, or just lying?

Termin8tor » 16 Jul 2019 6:24 pm » wrote: Wow, Singapore is obviously a "hellhole,"

You finally said something smart, ya retard.

Cannonpointer » 16 Jul 2019 5:30 pm » wrote:

Str8tEdge » 18 Jul 2014 11:41 pm » wrote: Q.1. What is economic freedom?
Economic freedom is the fundamental right of every human to control his or her own labor and property.

That leaves out Singapore.

The people are not allowed to own property in Singapore.

In an economically free society, individuals are free to work, produce, consume, and invest in any way they please.

That leaves out Singapore. Their citizens are told by government how uch they can wager in a casino. They are not allowed to purchase bubble gum. They are told where they must invest their retirement savings and their health care savings, and how they must spend them.

If they contract an STD, they are not allowed to use theor own funds to be treated in the state run health care system.

In economically free societies, governments allow labor, capital and goods to move freely, and refrain from coercion or constraint of liberty beyond the extent necessary to protect and maintain liberty itself.

That leaves out Singapore. The government controls the labor union, which is an actual government department. It controls the largest single share of the market, and its agents dole out street canings to anyone caught chewing bubble gum.

Damn, you still hurting over that *** whipping from years ago?

billbatard » 16 Jul 2019 5:49 pm » wrote:

Str8tEdge » 18 Jul 2014 5:35 am » wrote:So do we..... Medicare, Medicaid, VA, Social Security, public schools, subsidized state colleges, student loans..... Does that make us socialist, RETARD?

by the conservative definition public libraries make us socialist

None of that fits the definition of socialism. The fact we have private property and no industry is made illegal to bar competition from the state means there really is no socialism in this economy.....

Cannonpointer » 16 Jul 2019 8:08 pm » wrote:

Termin8tor » 16 Jul 2019 6:24 pm » wrote:"Property" refers to private possessions, Dim.

Which Singaporeans have in abundance, it being one of the most prosperous countries on the planet.

Private retirement accounts, health savings accounts, investment beyond what the government mandates.

Business ownership, and I'll bet that's very widespread.

Yeah, yeah - they can have consumer goods. Except bubble gum. ...

Blather on, tard.

Business ownership, private retirement and health savings accounts, bank savings, bonds and other forms of investment are "consumer goods?"

You're intellectually dishonest.

Cannonpointer » 16 Jul 2019 8:08 pm » wrote:

Termin8tor » 16 Jul 2019 6:24 pm » wrote:"Property" refers to private possessions, Dim.

Which Singaporeans have in abundance, it being one of the most prosperous countries on the planet.

Private retirement accounts, health savings accounts, investment beyond what the government mandates.

Business ownership, and I'll bet that's very widespread.

All managed by benevolent big brother, and spent how big brother dictates.

FREEDUMB!!!!

Freer than the US systems of S.S., Medicare and Medicaid, wackjob.

All government controlled Ponzi Schemes with zero assets.


Which do you prefer?


Run, Forrest, run!

Termin8tor » 17 Jul 2019 7:24 am » wrote:
Freer than the US systems of S.S., Medicare and Medicaid, wackjob.

All government controlled Ponzi Schemes with zero assets.

Which do you prefer?

Run, Forrest, run!

...you don't even know what a dollar is...stfu..

...we don't live under capitalism or socialism, you stoooooopid republican ****...we live under 'plutocratism'... 'plutocracy' if you will...'rule by the wealthy'...get real, you drooling republican ****-spewer...

Termin8tor » 17 Jul 2019 7:22 am » wrote: Business ownership, private retirement and health savings accounts, bank savings, bonds and other forms of investment are "consumer goods?"

Yeah, no.

The citizens are wage workers who are not allowed to own real property, since their socialist government owns all of it. You're thinking of the multinational corporations which pay Heritage for their narratives, assey.

You're intellectually dishonest.

Termin8tor » 17 Jul 2019 7:24 am » wrote: Freer than the US systems of S.S., Medicare and Medicaid, wackjob.

Yeah, no. If you get an STD here, you can get treatment. There, no.

Sorry, weakling - but that was a nice try.

Cannonpointer » 17 Jul 2019 11:50 am » wrote:

Termin8tor » 17 Jul 2019 7:22 am » wrote:Business ownership, private retirement and health savings accounts, bank savings, bonds and other forms of investment are "consumer goods?"

You're intellectually dishonest.

Yeah, no.

The citizens are wage workers who are not allowed to own real property, since their socialist government owns all of it. You're thinking of the multinational corporations which pay Heritage for their narratives, assey.

You're intellectually dishonest.

I have repeatedly acknowledged that the property sector is Socialistic, so I haven't been dishonest in the slightest.

That is only one aspect on which Singapore's system should be appraised.

You lied that "property" means either real estate or "consumer goods." You're intellectually dishonest.


Are business ownership, private retirement and health savings accounts, bank savings, bonds and other forms of investment "consumer goods?"

Cannonpointer » 17 Jul 2019 11:51 am » wrote:

Termin8tor » 17 Jul 2019 7:24 am » wrote:Freer than the US systems of S.S., Medicare and Medicaid, wackjob.

Yeah, no. If you get an STD here, you can get treatment. There, no.

Sorry, weakling - but that was a nice try.

Why did you cut out the rest of my post, psycho?

To avoid answering my question. You're intellectually dishonest.

Singapore's health care and retirement systems, backed by assets of value owned in private accounts, are freer than the US systems of S.S., Medicare and Medicaid, wackjob.

All government controlled Ponzi Schemes with zero assets.

Which do you prefer?

Termin8tor » 17 Jul 2019 1:00 pm » wrote: I have repeatedly acknowledged that the property sector is Socialistic,

When did government ownership of all real property get broken down into a mere "sector," quibbler?

And what about the health care "sector?" Have you repeatedly acknowledged that's also socialist?

And what about the government ownership of the means of production "sector?" Have you repeatedly acknowledged that's also socialist?

Which "sectors" of venezuela are socialist, *** - and which are free market? Greece? Portugal? I already know your answer, assey. Whoever is doing well is capitalist, with some "sectors" that are socialist. Whoever is doing poorly is socialist.

You have no definitions that you will live by, moron.

Cannonpointer » 17 Jul 2019 1:17 pm » wrote: When....

How many years has it been since you answered one single one of my questions?

I asked you this in my last post. Either answer it or **** you, your questions, your **** and your lies.

Singapore's health care and retirement systems, backed by assets of value owned in private accounts, are freer than the US systems of S.S., Medicare and Medicaid, wackjob.

All government controlled Ponzi Schemes with zero assets.

Which do you prefer?

Termin8tor » 17 Jul 2019 1:26 pm » wrote:
How many years has it been since you answered one single one of my questions?

I asked you this in my last post. Either answer it or **** you, your questions, your **** and your lies.

Singapore's health care and retirement systems, backed by assets of value owned in private accounts, are freer than the US systems of S.S., Medicare and Medicaid, wackjob.

All government controlled Ponzi Schemes with zero assets.

Which do you prefer?

I QUITE prefer the economic model of Singapore, and aconsider it vastly superior to our own, you jackass.

I am a socialist. Duh.

Cannonpointer » 17 Jul 2019 1:17 pm » wrote:Which "sectors" of venezuela are socialist, *** - and which are free market? Greece? Portugal? I already know your answer, assey. Whoever is doing well is capitalist, with some "sectors" that are socialist. Whoever is doing poorly is socialist. .

Well gosh, why would anyone be surprised by the obvious results of decades of history?
Socialism fails? Who'da thunk?

That must be shocking to a delusional leftist wackjob like you.

Apparently the shrieking voices in your head told you differently.