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Cannonpointer » 18 Jul 2014, 4:55 am » wrote: ↑

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The majority of nations which made Heritage's list have socialized health care, socialized retirement and socialized higher education - the stuff that heritage and the contards who worship there call socialism.

It seems that socialist countries are more economically free than capitalist ones - who knew?

Oh, wait - I did.

1Hong Kong
90.1
0.8

2Singapore
89.4
1.4

3Australia
82.0
-0.6

4Switzerland
81.6
0.6

5New Zealand
81.2
-0.2

6Canada
80.2
0.8

7Chile
78.7
-0.3

8Mauritius
76.5
-0.4

9Ireland
76.2
0.5

10Denmark
76.1
0.0

What do these numbers stand for?

Xavier_Onassis » 08 Jul 2022, 4:45 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Jul 2022, 4:45 pm

What do these numbers stand for?

The ersatz "freedomy index" awarded by Huritage.

You see, low taxes on corportions = "freedom" to those pieces of **** - even in slave pits.

Just notice - all the countries that beat the **** out of the USA for freedominess are socialist slave pits, according to conjobs...

Huritage, giving away the game...
 

Cannonpointer » 08 Jul 2022, 6:00 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Jul 2022, 6:00 pm

The ersatz "freedomy index" awarded by Huritage.

You see, low taxes on corportions = "freedom" to those pieces of **** - even in slave pits.

Just notice - all the countries that beat the **** out of the USA for freedominess are socialist slave pits, according to conjobs...

Huritage, giving away the game...

Why didn't China, Russia, and North Korea make the list?

They seem kinda socialisty.

DeezerShoove » 08 Jul 2022, 6:08 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Jul 2022, 6:08 pm

Why didn't China, Russia, and North Korea make the list?

They seem kinda socialisty.

Taxes too high - no "freedom."

Cannonpointer » 08 Jul 2022, 6:10 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Jul 2022, 6:10 pm

Taxes too high - no "freedom."

I wonder in these types of Data Analysis comparisons if enough or the proper items are compared.

Things like "boots on the ground" type stuff.

How many people stay in one of those countries after moving into one?
Like the grass-is-greener expectations being disappointing... So they get out eventually.

I could see moving to Australia but then realizing those horse-faced women are scary
and no guns to shoot at them...  I would have to move.

I've only ever heard of one North Korean wanting to go back. 
Isn't Hong Kong getting kinda **** up too?

I guess I just don't trust anybody's third party info.

DeezerShoove » 08 Jul 2022, 6:26 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Jul 2022, 6:26 pm

I wonder in these types of Data Analysis comparisons if enough or the proper items are compared.

Things like "boots on the ground" type stuff.

How many people stay in one of those countries after moving into one?
Like the grass-is-greener expectations being disappointing... So they get out eventually.

I could see moving to Australia but then realizing those horse-faced women are scary
and no guns to shoot at them...  I would have to move.

I've only ever heard of one North Korean wanting to go back. 
Isn't Hong Kong getting kinda **** up too?

I guess I just don't trust anybody's third party info.

When it comes to happiness indexes, I trust the science. 

There is a great deal of rigor in sociologists' efforts to find the happiest nations. 

And the happiest nations ARE IN FACT socialist ones, using the definitions of board conjobs.

They're happier than we are. Even though they're taxed at a higher rate (at least nominally).
 

Cannonpointer » 23 Oct 2023, 7:04 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Oct 2023, 7:04 pm

When it comes to happiness indexes, I trust the science. 

There is a great deal of rigor in sociologists' efforts to find the happiest nations. 

And the happiest nations ARE IN FACT socialist ones, using the definitions of board conjobs.

They're happier than we are. Even though they're taxed at a higher rate (at least nominally).

Taxes are a biggie for some.

The weird notion about coupons at the supermarket comes to mind.
Somehow all the effort put into lowering a price to only certain people seems **** up.
It must work or they wouldn't keep doing it.
No sense lowering prices a smidge for every piece they sell.

Like a tax rate that applies across the board. Can't have that. Certain people get the deal...

DeezerShoove » 23 Oct 2023, 8:20 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Oct 2023, 8:20 pm

Taxes are a biggie for some.

The weird notion about coupons at the supermarket comes to mind.
Somehow all the effort put into lowering a price to only certain people seems **** up.
It must work or they wouldn't keep doing it.
No sense lowering prices a smidge for every piece they sell.

Like a tax rate that applies across the board. Can't have that. Certain people get the deal...

The usual reason for specials at stores is purchasing in greater bulk and selling in greater bulk items that people are able to keep for long term use.
 

Cannonpointer » 23 Oct 2023, 8:30 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Oct 2023, 8:30 pm

The usual reason for specials at stores is purchasing in greater bulk and selling in greater bulk items that people are able to keep for long term use.

Like milk?

DeezerShoove » 23 Oct 2023, 8:31 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Oct 2023, 8:31 pm

Like milk?

Milk is not a long term storage item. The reason they might run a big special on milk is that it is one of those items that people WILL get in the car and drive to the store for, when they are out or near out - as opposed to, say, store brand canned soups.

Getting a rush of shoppers into the store is the motive for selling milk at low prices - even at a small loss. 
 
Marketing always has human elements that are not black and white, but include your meskins and chinee, too.
 

Cannonpointer » 23 Oct 2023, 7:04 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Oct 2023, 7:04 pm

When it comes to happiness indexes, I trust the science. 

There is a great deal of rigor in sociologists' efforts to find the happiest nations. 

And the happiest nations ARE IN FACT socialist ones, using the definitions of board conjobs.

They're happier than we are. Even though they're taxed at a higher rate (at least nominally).

The problem is not 'Capitalism' so much as it is neo-liberalism

and crony-capitalism.  $$$ rises to the top and the people get ****.

Yer average generic capitalist would love to build infrastructure.

Just ask the Chinese.
 

Sumela » 23 Oct 2023, 9:20 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Oct 2023, 9:20 pm

The problem is not 'Capitalism' so much as it is neo-liberalism

and crony-capitalism.  $$$ rises to the top and the people get ****.

Yer average generic capitalist would love to build infrastructure.

Just ask the Chinese.

I don't really distinguish between capitalism and crony capitalism. The one is the other. 

I define things by what they do - by what they are IN ESSENCE.

In its essence, capitalism is a state-sponsored and state-supported economic model. Free enterprise is simply a natural expression of our humanity. 

Why do we need government controlled and supported trading boards to enact free enterprise? We don't. So, those boards are for something OTHER than free enterprise. They are for capitalism - as distinct from free enterprise. Once you make the distinction between capitalism and free enterprise - a distinction they do not want you to make, BTW, - you will begin to notice a whole bunch of command and control **** that has been in the background and is now in the foreground. 
 
 

Cannonpointer » 23 Oct 2023, 9:30 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Oct 2023, 9:30 pm

I don't really distinguish between capitalism and crony capitalism. The one is the other. 

I define things by what they do - by what they are IN ESSENCE.

In its essence, capitalism is a state-sponsored and state-supported economic model. Free enterprise is simply a natural expression of our humanity. 

Why do we need government controlled and supported trading boards to enact free enterprise? We don't. So, those boards are for something OTHER than free enterprise. They are for capitalism - as distinct from free enterprise. Once you make the distinction between capitalism and free enterprise - a distinction they do not want you to make, BTW, - you will begin to notice a whole bunch of command and control **** that has been in the background and is now in the foreground.

Sounds like a strain of what some call libertarian-socialism.

Where free enterprise is free from FED govt control

to build a free country, but with local constraints

to serve the community.

Sumela » 23 Oct 2023, 9:44 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Oct 2023, 9:44 pm

Sounds like a strain of what some call libertarian-socialism.

Where free enterprise is free from FED govt control

to build a free country, but with local constraints

to serve the community.

Yes. I've not heard it called libertarian socialism, but yes - no federal involvement in controlling and supporting any particular business or cartel of businesses - such as defines wall street.

Free enterprisers serve the market to dominate the competition. Capitalists corner markets to dominate the customer. Almost everything wall street does is done on a cost-plus basis, and the customer is without a choice. 
 

Cannonpointer » 23 Oct 2023, 9:52 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Oct 2023, 9:52 pm

Yes. I've not heard it called libertarian socialism, but yes - no federal involvement in controlling and supporting any particular business or cartel of businesses - such as defines wall street.

Free enterprisers serve the market to dominate the competition. Capitalists corner markets to dominate the customer. Almost everything wall street does is done on a cost-plus basis, and the customer is without a choice.

Jackson Hinkle, now banned from YT, 

calls a similar system...MAGA-COMMUNISM.

In essence, Populism-Communism.