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Selaphobia » 03 Feb 2023, 2:21 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Feb 2023, 2:21 pm

For reading
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... -date.html

You may be vaccinated, but are you "up to date"?

Remember, the "vaccine" loses its efficacy very quickly.

I saw that before I posted the Mayo Clinic link earlier.

Huey » 03 Feb 2023, 10:13 am » wrote: ↑

03 Feb 2023, 10:13 am

I am up to date with my COVID vases and got the flu vaccines in December.

I just tested positive for not only COVID but the flu for which I got the vaccine.

I have to agree with CP and suggest that you would probably be much more symptomatic if you had not been vaccinated.

Selaphobia » 03 Feb 2023, 11:38 am » wrote: ↑

03 Feb 2023, 11:38 am

ok, final thoughts for the next 34 seconds, and I MIGHT be back...

The difference between Kyle Rittenhouse and Covid-19 vaccination is that Kyle`s 3 shots were effective.

     

maineman » 03 Feb 2023, 4:33 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Feb 2023, 4:33 pm

I have to agree with CP and suggest that you would probably be much more symptomatic if you had not been vaccinated.

But you should be careful to put "vaccinated" in quotes, since its usage is bastardized from the original. 

In the original (pre-2020) usage, "vaccinated" meant "immunized." Given that MOST covid deaths accrue to lab rats, it is clear that experiment participants are not immunized, and are therefore not properly "vaccinated."

ROG62 » 03 Feb 2023, 4:50 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Feb 2023, 4:50 pm

   

I will have to disagree with that statement. Both I and my wife have gotten every COVID shot and booster and neither of us have ever gotten COVID.  All three of my adult children have also gotten all of the shots and boosters and all of them HAVE had COVID... and all of them had extremely mild cases... My middle son lost his spleen from a traumatic hockey injury and is, therefore, in extraordinary danger from COVID... he works as a chef/bar manager at at restaurant and is in close contact with the public every day...and he has had COVID three times.. ALL of them were extremely mild instances...the last one he did not even register a fever, but stayed away from work until he tested negative.  It seems clear to me that the COVID vaccine is not synonymous with the polio vaccine.  It doesn't absolutely PREVENT anyone from getting COVID.  But, from my family's experience, the vaccine prevented us from DYING from it.
 

maineman » 03 Feb 2023, 5:07 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Feb 2023, 5:07 pm

I will have to disagree with that statement. Both I and my wife have gotten every COVID shot and booster and neither of us have ever gotten COVID.  All three of my adult children have also gotten all of the shots and boosters and all of them HAVE had COVID... and all of them had extremely mild cases... My middle son lost his spleen from a traumatic hockey injury and is, therefore, in extraordinary danger from COVID... he works as a chef/bar manager at at restaurant and is in close contact with the public every day...and he has had COVID three times.. ALL of them were extremely mild instances...the last one he did not even register a fever, but stayed away from work until he tested negative.  It seems clear to me that the COVID vaccine is not synonymous with the polio vaccine.  It doesn't absolutely PREVENT anyone from getting COVID.  But, from my family's experience, the vaccine prevented us from DYING from it.

welcome to the new mRNA world...

My son and his wife contracted Covid 1 week after their initial shot. Son no symptoms, DIL out for over a week. Not sure their vax status.
My wife and I both got it like 3 weeks later. I had a 15 second fever and 36 hr cough. Having asthma, I opted for the monoclonal antibody infusion the following week after all symptoms were gone. The wife struggled for 2 weeks...no vax as she suffers from needle phobia.
Son #2 and DIL are vax freaks (lol) both had Covid at least once...

There is no rhyme or reason to catching it and what symptoms you get...
 
 

Covid is way over exaggerated. I bet at least 50% of the so called covid deaths where not due to covid. Hospitals marked them as covid to get paid.

ROG62 » 03 Feb 2023, 6:59 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Feb 2023, 6:59 pm

welcome to the new mRNA world...

My son and his wife contracted Covid 1 week after their initial shot. Son no symptoms, DIL out for over a week. Not sure their vax status.
My wife and I both got it like 3 weeks later. I had a 15 second fever and 36 hr cough. Having asthma, I opted for the monoclonal antibody infusion the following week after all symptoms were gone. The wife struggled for 2 weeks...no vax as she suffers from needle phobia.
Son #2 and DIL are vax freaks (lol) both had Covid at least once...

There is no rhyme or reason to catching it and what symptoms you get...

I guess the one constant seems to be, if you got a vaccine/booster, you're still alive.

I have a dear dear first cousin of mine who had an only son who was a election denier and an anti-vaxxer.  He had a lovely wife and three lovely kids... and he got COVID and... right before they hooked him up to the ventilator that he never got off of, he admitted that, maybe he'd made a mistake... and then he died.  And my dear sweet cousin is still just totally distraught. 
 

Huey » 03 Feb 2023, 10:13 am » wrote: ↑

03 Feb 2023, 10:13 am

I am up to date with my COVID vases and got the flu vaccines in December.

I just tested positive for not only COVID but the flu for which I got the vaccine.

I got vaxed, and I got Covid not too long afterwards. 

Selaphobia » 03 Feb 2023, 7:14 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Feb 2023, 7:14 pm

You are 100% correct the vaccination does not stop you from getting COVID.
The manufacturers of these vaccinations (AFAIK) never claimed the vaccinations would stop you from getting COVID-19

It was Joe Biden and the Media that LIED to the American people and told them the vaccination will stop you from getting Covid-19 and for some reason if you got Covid-19 you could not be a carrier and pass it onto others.

You made a choice, I made a choice. Neither you nor I were coerced to make that choice. That cannot be said for Millions of Americans that were coerced by the Biden Administration to get the Covid-19 vaccination.

I personally do not know of anyone who was COERCED to be vaccinated... I also do not know of anyone who was vaccinated and who then died of COVID.

Selaphobia » 03 Feb 2023, 7:34 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Feb 2023, 7:34 pm

Maybe coerced is not the correct word? I know people that were told by their employer "you will get the vaccination, or you will no longer work here".
"Show me your vaccination card"
I know of no one personally that has had Covid-19 or the vaccination. I know of no one personally that has lost any family members to Covid-19.

I don't believe that the president of the united states ordered any employer to require vaccinations for their work force.  Employers who did require vaccinations did so of their own volition.
 

Selaphobia » 03 Feb 2023, 7:44 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Feb 2023, 7:44 pm

Fair enough. Good clean conversation. I like it. Got to go now. Back later.

@maineman    can be a reasonable poster if given a chance.  You will still disagree on many things but will be reasonable when treated the same.

maineman » 03 Feb 2023, 5:07 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Feb 2023, 5:07 pm

I will have to disagree with that statement. Both I and my wife have gotten every COVID shot and booster and neither of us have ever gotten COVID.  All three of my adult children have also gotten all of the shots and boosters and all of them HAVE had COVID... and all of them had extremely mild cases... My middle son lost his spleen from a traumatic hockey injury and is, therefore, in extraordinary danger from COVID... he works as a chef/bar manager at at restaurant and is in close contact with the public every day...and he has had COVID three times.. ALL of them were extremely mild instances...the last one he did not even register a fever, but stayed away from work until he tested negative.  It seems clear to me that the COVID vaccine is not synonymous with the polio vaccine.  It doesn't absolutely PREVENT anyone from getting COVID.  But, from my family's experience, the vaccine prevented us from DYING from it.

This shows you to be both a science and a math illiterate: 

the vaccine prevented us from DYING from it.

Be honest with us. Is it GENUNELY your belief that covid - a **** seasonal respiratory virus (the type of virus your immune system is built to deal with) would have genocided your entire **** family? That's your position?

Not ONE PERSON in my family took the vaccine. Not one person died. We all got it, and beat it handily. Is your entire family fat, weak, sick, trailer trash, potential darwin-award recipients?

You were sold that "vaccine" on a lie, and you just don't want to admit you got played for a midway rube. 

 
 

PhiloBeddo » 03 Feb 2023, 7:01 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Feb 2023, 7:01 pm

Covid is way over exaggerated. I bet at least 50% of the so called covid deaths where not due to covid. Hospitals marked them as covid to get paid.

Even those that WERE covid deaths were unnatural, due to the deliberate withholding of treatment. 

Merely the same treatment people give the flu would have saved lives - much less giving folks the multiple proven treatments withheld on behalf of big pharma's profits. 

Does anyone else remeber when liberals DISTRUSTED big pharma, as opposed to being their LITERAL goons? Or, for that matter, then they PROTECTED women's rights, instead of systematically infringing on them while denying that women exist as a discrete and definable natural phenomenon?

Selaphobia » 03 Feb 2023, 7:14 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Feb 2023, 7:14 pm

You are 100% correct the vaccination does not stop you from getting COVID.
The manufacturers of these vaccinations (AFAIK) never claimed the vaccinations would stop you from getting COVID-19

It was Joe Biden and the Media that LIED to the American people and told them the vaccination will stop you from getting Covid-19 and for some reason if you got Covid-19 you could not be a carrier and pass it onto others.

You made a choice, I made a choice. Neither you nor I were coerced to make that choice. That cannot be said for Millions of Americans that were coerced by the Biden Administration to get the Covid-19 vaccination.

The dupe WAS coerced. He was CLEARLY lied to about the dangers of covid AND the efficacy of the experiment.

CLEARLY. Unless he is lying in this thread. He is either stupid or dishonest or both, if syllogisms still work on the Planet of the Gender Confused. 
 
 

maineman » 03 Feb 2023, 7:17 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Feb 2023, 7:17 pm

I guess the one constant seems to be, if you got a vaccine/booster, you're still alive.

You are horribly uninformed - you really have no business discussing the issue, as lazy as you clearly are in terms of getting information. More vaxed people die of covid every day globally than unvaxed. Then there are those who die of the vax itself. 

The entire continet of africa is a no-covid zone AND a no vax zone, dummy.

maineman » 03 Feb 2023, 7:17 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Feb 2023, 7:17 pm

I have a dear dear first cousin of mine who had an only son who was a election denier and an anti-vaxxer.  He had a lovely wife and three lovely kids... and he got COVID and... right before they hooked him up to the ventilator that he never got off of, he admitted that, maybe he'd made a mistake... and then he died.  And my dear sweet cousin is still just totally distraught.

Hooking someone with a respiratory infection to a ventilator is deliberate murder, goon. Depriving them of PROPER treatment is also murder. Your first cousin was murdered - and you politicized it.
 

Selaphobia » 03 Feb 2023, 7:20 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Feb 2023, 7:20 pm

No that is not a constant.
Why Do Vaccinated People Represent Most COVID-19 Deaths Right Now?
https://www.kff.org/policy-watch/why-do ... right-now/

@maineman  is obviously getting his information from **** sources in the pocket of farma - fake liberal. 
 
Real liberals don't check in the The Man for their narratives - they fight The Man. 

maineman » 03 Feb 2023, 7:24 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Feb 2023, 7:24 pm

I personally do not know of anyone who was COERCED to be vaccinated...

YOU were coerced, stupid.

You already admitted three posts ago that they convinced you your entire family would be wiped off the **** map unless you took their shot. That's COERCION, you retarded hick. 

maineman » 03 Feb 2023, 7:24 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Feb 2023, 7:24 pm

I also do not know of anyone who was vaccinated and who then died of COVID.

They are no less dead for not having made YOUR sketchy acquaintance, you turnip truck refugee.
 

Huey » 03 Feb 2023, 7:53 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Feb 2023, 7:53 pm

@maineman    can be a reasonable poster if given a chance.  You will still disagree on many things but will be reasonable when treated the same.

If you can brook dishonest tard-spew. Anyone puling that there was no coercion to take the vax was one of those doing the coercing. Why ELSE would the lying cocksucker lie like a cocksucker?

Seriously - there is nothing "reasonable" about a **** lying out of his ball washer. 
 

maineman » 03 Feb 2023, 7:39 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Feb 2023, 7:39 pm

I don't believe that the president of the united states ordered any employer to require vaccinations for their work force.  Employers who did require vaccinations did so of their own volition.

He simply cut them from all federal contracts if they did not comply. 

That is coercion. You are either dishonest, stupid, or both.