NATO vs Russia update

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By *rippy38
8 Feb 2023 5:20 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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Pretty interesting that both these stories broke on the day after the SOTU. These are not "mainstream" sources, so make of it what you will.

Biden lied about Nord Stream sabotage, US did it with help from Norway

https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking- ... aign=64487

U.S.-Led West Opposed Peace Deal in Ukraine

Former Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett said Russia and Ukraine seemed eager to end the fighting early last year. But the U.S. and its allies had other plans.

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https://contra.substack.com/p/us-led-we ... paign=post

 
 
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RedheadedStranger » 08 Feb 2023, 6:20 pm » wrote: Pretty interesting that both these stories broke on the day after the SOTU. These are not "mainstream" sources, so make of it what you will.

Biden lied about Nord Stream sabotage, US did it with help from Norway

https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking- ... aign=64487

U.S.-Led West Opposed Peace Deal in Ukraine

Former Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett said Russia and Ukraine seemed eager to end the fighting early last year. But the U.S. and its allies had other plans.

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https://contra.substack.com/p/us-led-we ... paign=post

Looks like Biden's masters do not want peace.
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roadkill » 08 Feb 2023, 7:29 pm » wrote: Looks like Biden's masters do not want peace.
Hell no they don't.

Peace doesn't pay.

 
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Selaphobia » 08 Feb 2023, 7:40 pm » wrote: Trump was not supposed to win. He did and then the Democrats used gain of function research (FAUCI) and worked with China to dump WU WU on the USA to make ORANGE MAN LOOK BAD. TRUMP came through with OPERATION WARP SPEED and saved the day, but Democrats said "**** TRUMP" we are shutting down the economy to make ORANGE MAN LOOK EVEN BADDER. Well it looked like Trump could win, so they RIGGED AND STOLE the election.

That puts Joe in, and then we can go with the plan Hillary was supposed to do. War with Russia.

OH If you don't believe Hillary wanted war with Russia, you are WRONG!

Her and John Kerry are WAR HAWKS and chomped at the bits for war with Russia. But... John Kerry pretended he was afraid because it would take the spotlight off the climate efforts...

oh yeah, Hillary wanted it and BAD

Full Hillary Clinton Interview: ‘We Have To Double Down On The Pressure’ On Russia

https://youtu.be/t3huw7TPxmM

John Kerry warns a long Ukraine war would threaten climate efforts

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... te-efforts
These people are evil. 

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Selaphobia » 08 Feb 2023, 9:59 pm » wrote: Yes they are evil. DEMOCRATS are the PARTY OF WAR.

Anyone miss Trump? I do. Sealed border, low energy prices, strong stock market, strong 401K, decent fuel and food prices. And ZERO chance of ANY WAR (Nuclear, etc. war. )

Shame on you if you voted for Biden. If there is war, and the USA is involved, you will have BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS.
I won't have BLOOD ON MY HANDS because I did not vote for Biden.
They were all for taking Saddam Hussein out too, even before 9-11.

They flip flopped on that right quick when the electorate soured on the war though, and blamed it all on Bush and Cheney... and of course their base bought into it hook line and sinker too.


 
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RedheadedStranger » 08 Feb 2023, 6:20 pm » wrote: Pretty interesting that both these stories broke on the day after the SOTU. These are not "mainstream" sources, so make of it what you will.

Biden lied about Nord Stream sabotage, US did it with help from Norway

thepostmillennial /breaking-biden-lied-about-nord-stream-sabotage-us-did-it-with-help-from-norway-report?utm_campaign=64487

U.S.-Led West Opposed Peace Deal in Ukraine

Former Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett said Russia and Ukraine seemed eager to end the fighting early last year. But the U.S. and its allies had other plans.

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contra.substack /p/us-led-west-opposed-peace-deal-in?r=lj90&utm_medium=ios&utm_campaign=post


No idea if any of that is true, but bottom line ... Putin has turned Eastern Slavs against him and Russia.
Ukraine, largest country in Europe (not counting Russia), is now determined to be a 'European Partner'.
Putin has managed to do the impossible, turn Slavic Brothers against each other.
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RedheadedStranger » 08 Feb 2023, 7:30 pm » wrote: Hell no they don't.

Peace doesn't pay.

LOL...........
"peace doesn't pay.............".
LOL...............
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"Peace doesn't pay............".

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RedheadedStranger » 08 Feb 2023, 6:20 pm » wrote: Pretty interesting that both these stories broke on the day after the SOTU. These are not "mainstream" sources, so make of it what you will.

Biden lied about Nord Stream sabotage, US did it with help from Norway

https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking- ... aign=64487

U.S.-Led West Opposed Peace Deal in Ukraine

Former Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett said Russia and Ukraine seemed eager to end the fighting early last year. But the U.S. and its allies had other plans.

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https://contra.substack.com/p/us-led-we ... paign=post
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RedheadedStranger » 08 Feb 2023, 6:20 pm » wrote: Pretty interesting that both these stories broke on the day after the SOTU. These are not "mainstream" sources, so make of it what you will.

Biden lied about Nord Stream sabotage, US did it with help from Norway

https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking- ... aign=64487

U.S.-Led West Opposed Peace Deal in Ukraine

Former Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett said Russia and Ukraine seemed eager to end the fighting early last year. But the U.S. and its allies had other plans.

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https://contra.substack.com/p/us-led-we ... paign=post
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehwrw-r2GsA
 
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It is CLEARLY to the advantage of the US for Ukraine to be affiliated with Western Europe,the EU and NATO.
It is also what a majority of Ukrainians want.
Putin falsely claims that Ukraine should be part of Russia.
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Xavier_Onassis » 14 Feb 2023, 3:50 pm » wrote: It is CLEARLY to the advantage of the US for Ukraine to be affiliated with Western Europe,the EU and NATO.
It is also what a majority of Ukrainians want.
Putin falsely claims that Ukraine should be part of Russia.
Agree.
It's pretty simple.
Do you support Western Civilization and the ability to have Opposition Groups to a Current Leadership.
Or do you support a Dictator System where Opposition Groups are killed or sent into Prison Camps.
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14 Feb 2023 6:21 pm
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ZiggyX » 14 Feb 2023, 3:59 pm » wrote: Agree.
It's pretty simple.
Do you support Western Civilization and the ability to have Opposition Groups to a Current Leadership.
Or do you support a Dictator System where Opposition Groups are killed or sent into Prison Camps.
Zelensky outlawed his political opponents parties and jailed several of his opposition leaders. Is that what you are referring to? 
 
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Selaphobia » 14 Feb 2023, 5:58 pm » wrote: where is the outrage against China?
I haven't seen any China Supporters around, have you?
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Neo » 14 Feb 2023, 7:21 pm » wrote: Zelensky outlawed his political opponents parties and jailed several of his opposition leaders. Is that what you are referring to?
If that were true, I don't think he would qualify for E.U. membership, much less any thoughts of joining NATO.
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RedheadedStranger » 08 Feb 2023, 7:50 pm » wrote: These people are evil. 

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She's just trying to get us to do what th Constitution says: "Protect and defend Ukraine at all costs" (her exact words). 

It''s right there in the same article that explains how men have a right to become women, and the rest of us have to respect their status as women. 
 
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Xavier_Onassis » 14 Feb 2023, 3:50 pm » wrote: It is CLEARLY to the advantage of the US for Ukraine to be affiliated with Western Europe,the EU and NATO.
 
If it's so clear, you should be able to explain it pretty easily, fruitcake. 

I'm American. How does it benefit me?
 
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

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An opinion you won't defend is not your own

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When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

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ZiggyX » 14 Feb 2023, 3:59 pm » wrote:
Or do you support a Dictator System where Opposition Groups are killed or sent into Prison Camps.
But enough about Ukraine's government, you retarded fruitcake.
 
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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ZiggyX » 14 Feb 2023, 10:56 pm » wrote: If that were true, I don't think he would qualify for E.U. membership, much less any thoughts of joining NATO.
Ukraine has been known for many years as the most corrupt government in Europe, light weight. 

Do you ever investigate anything bfore you post, cartoon?
 
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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Taipan » 09 Feb 2023, 4:14 am » wrote: LOL...........
"peace doesn't pay.............".
LOL...............
I am mercenary.
I charge the high dollar.
"Peace doesn't pay............".

I like you.                                                                 
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Cannonpointer » 15 Feb 2023, 2:50 am » wrote: If it's so clear, you should be able to explain it pretty easily, fruitcake. 

I'm American. How does it benefit me?
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