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9 Feb 2023 12:27 pm in The Water Cooler Chat Room
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Huey » 16 Feb 2023, 7:54 am » wrote: Answer the question.  According to you, since they are one design, I can take ANY part from an M16 lower and install into a Sporter.  With no changes and making it full auto
No...I've never said that..

No citation has ever done so.

The citations are all quite clear.

 
 
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Huey » 16 Feb 2023, 8:04 am » wrote: Ok, YOUR answer to the question is yes, you can.

WRONG.  YOU LOSE!   Image  

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Post my words.
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Blackvegetable » 15 Feb 2023, 9:02 pm » wrote: One family.

One design.

Numerous variants.

You lose.
Your words

That is your answer.  You lose.  You can not take M 16 lower receiver parts and simply drop them into a Sporter.  Different design.  No need to respond.  You lost.  Image  
 
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Huey » 16 Feb 2023, 8:07 am » wrote: Your words

That is your answer.  You lose.  You can not take M 16 lower receiver parts and simply drop them into a Sporter.  Different design.  No need to respond.  You lost.  Image
No, Tiny..

That's what the citation is telling you.

Whether or not you want to hear it...


 
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Blackvegetable » 16 Feb 2023, 8:05 am » wrote: No...I've never said that..

No citation has ever done so.

The citations are all quite clear.
Then you did not answer the question, Dr. Google.  
 
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Blackvegetable » 16 Feb 2023, 8:10 am » wrote: No, Tiny..

That's what the citation is telling you.

Whether or not you want to hear it...

So your citation is telling YOU that I can take parts from an M 16 lower and drop them in a Sporter and not have to change a thing.    Got it. 
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Huey » 16 Feb 2023, 8:17 am » wrote: Then you did not answer the question, Dr. Google.
I have.

Don't try to reason. You can't. 

Stick with what EVERY citation, and the orphaned snippet in your sig, says...
 
 
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Huey » 16 Feb 2023, 8:21 am » wrote: So your citation is telling YOU that I can take parts from an M 16 lower and drop them in a Sporter and not have to change a thing.    Got it.
No..it isn't..

It says what it says.

You yap what you yap.

You may refer to the citations, but spare everyone your uninformed speculations 


 
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Blackvegetable » 16 Feb 2023, 8:23 am » wrote: No..it isn't..

It says what it says.

You yap what you yap.

You may refer to the citations, but spare everyone your uninformed speculations

LMAO!  

PS.  You have not posted a citation.  
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Huey » 16 Feb 2023, 8:26 am » wrote: LMAO!  

PS.  You have not posted a citation.
I did.

You claimed it as yours.

**** lying little idiot.
 
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Blackvegetable » 15 Feb 2023, 6:25 pm » wrote:
Huey » 15 Feb 2023, 3:24 pm » wrote: FIFY.

And actually I was wrong.  It is at least 3 different designs.  The Original Armalite Rifle 15 Design, the M16 which was the original Armalite Rifle, and of course the Civilian Sports Version.  

What weapon were you thinking about earlier?
Fix the narrative that I deemed unworthy of my time, and acknowledge that I was right to ignore you.


Then catch up.

This article describes the many variations of the Colt AR-15 and M16 rifle family of weapons produced by Colt's Manufacturing Company. Weapons patterned on the original ArmaLite AR-15 design have been produced by numerous manufacturers and have been used by nations around the world, some of which created their own variations.

 
Nothing about ONE DESIGN in that citation.  But I'll take your word for it.  ONE DESIGN means that you can change parts at will and turn a Sporter into a full auto weapon with no changes to the design. 
Blackvegetable » 16 Feb 2023, 8:28 am » wrote:
Huey » 16 Feb 2023, 8:26 am » wrote: LMAO!  

PS.  You have not posted a citation.
I did.

You claimed it as yours.

**** lying little idiot.
 

 
 
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Huey » 16 Feb 2023, 8:35 am » wrote: Nothing about ONE DESIGN in that citation.  But I'll take your word for it.  ONE DESIGN means that you can change parts at will and turn a Sporter into a full auto weapon with no changes to the design.
 
Nothing about ONE DESIGN in that citation.
This would be the citation you insisted I never posted?

Were you lying?


 patterned on the original ArmaLite AR-15 design"


You can't see words in front of your face.
ONE DESIGN means
Stop.
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Blackvegetable » 16 Feb 2023, 8:43 am » wrote:
This would be the citation you insisted I never posted?

Were you lying?

 patterned on the original ArmaLite AR-15 design"

You can't see words in front of your face.

Stop.

I'm good BV.  Thanks to you I now know there was only one design and I can quickly make a Sporter a full auto by simply dropping in M 16 parts.  Thanks Buddy!
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@Blackvegetable  

This source is completely wrong according to your theory of only one design:

https://www.gunbuilders.com/blog/ar15-v ... ifference/

I suggest reading the entire article.  I already know what you are going to cherry pick.

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To allow the auto sear to provide full-auto function, the M16's bolt carrier must be fabricated different from an AR-15's "commercial" bolt carrier group. The extra mass at the back of the carrier interacts with the sear and helps to reduce felt recoil during full-auto fire.

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Shown with the safety lever removed, the AR-15's lower receiver (even if "mil-spec") does not have the necessary space to accept an M16's auto sear. The portion highlighted in red must be milled or cut to make room for the sear. Doing so is illegal, since machineguns cannot be manufactured without special licensing and case-by-case approval from the ATF.

Those are just two things.  But the source is inaccurate because according to you there is only ONE DESIGN.
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Huey » 16 Feb 2023, 8:57 am » wrote: @Blackvegetable  

This source is completely wrong according to your theory of only one design:

https://www.gunbuilders.com/blog/ar15-v ... ifference/

I suggest reading the entire article.  I already know what you are going to cherry pick.

Image

To allow the auto sear to provide full-auto function, the M16's bolt carrier must be fabricated different from an AR-15's "commercial" bolt carrier group. The extra mass at the back of the carrier interacts with the sear and helps to reduce felt recoil during full-auto fire.

Image

Shown with the safety lever removed, the AR-15's lower receiver (even if "mil-spec") does not have the necessary space to accept an M16's auto sear. The portion highlighted in red must be milled or cut to make room for the sear. Doing so is illegal, since machineguns cannot be manufactured without special licensing and case-by-case approval from the ATF.

Those are just two things.  But the source is inaccurate because according to you there is only ONE DESIGN.
No, Tiny...

You have invented this condition.



 
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Huey » 16 Feb 2023, 8:47 am » wrote: I'm good BV.  Thanks to you I now know there was only one design and I can quickly make a Sporter a full auto by simply dropping in M 16 parts.  Thanks Buddy!
Don't thank me..

You made it up.
 
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Huey » 16 Feb 2023, 8:26 am » wrote: LMAO!  

PS.  You have not posted a citation.
Was this a lie?
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Blackvegetable » 16 Feb 2023, 9:02 am » wrote:
Huey » 16 Feb 2023, 8:57 am » wrote: @Blackvegetable  

This source is completely wrong according to your theory of only one design:

https://www.gunbuilders.com/blog/ar15-v ... ifference/

I suggest reading the entire article.  I already know what you are going to cherry pick.

Image

To allow the auto sear to provide full-auto function, the M16's bolt carrier must be fabricated different from an AR-15's "commercial" bolt carrier group. The extra mass at the back of the carrier interacts with the sear and helps to reduce felt recoil during full-auto fire.

Image

Shown with the safety lever removed, the AR-15's lower receiver (even if "mil-spec") does not have the necessary space to accept an M16's auto sear. The portion highlighted in red must be milled or cut to make room for the sear. Doing so is illegal, since machineguns cannot be manufactured without special licensing and case-by-case approval from the ATF.

Those are just two things.  But the source is inaccurate because according to you there is only ONE DESIGN.
No, Tiny...

You have invented this condition.
What condition have I invented.

The source is wrong, Kydex.  You are saying there is only one design meaning nothing has to be changed on the Sporter to drop in M 16 parts and make it full auto.  

Thank you for correcting me. 

@Selaphobia  
 
 
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Blackvegetable » 16 Feb 2023, 9:03 am » wrote: Don't thank me..

You made it up.

I'm good.  Since they are all one design you can interchange parts at will.  If you can't that means there is more than one design.  You can't have this both ways. 
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Not all a lie.  I didn't recall.  I went ahead and posted it.  
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