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FOS » 12 Feb 2023, 3:15 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Feb 2023, 3:15 pm

well when god becomes emperor we will be fine, i guess. in the meantime, i personally think fascism is the best way to manage humans

I understand what yer saying...but I'm not on board with an iron fist.  Antifa is the leftist iron fist...and they've beat up innocent elderly people.


That's just one of the rubs for me.

roadkill » 12 Feb 2023, 4:03 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Feb 2023, 4:03 pm

I understand what yer saying...but I'm not on board with an iron fist.  Antifa is the leftist iron fist...and they've beat up innocent elderly people.

That's just one of the rubs for me.

Well that is just the human condition and the unfortunate nature of power. War is never pleasant but the usa does it quite a lot...often when it isn't even any of our business imo (like when we fight in the middle east). I am actually opposed to all the unnecessary wars the us enters. But when war is necessary you should have the stomach for it...else you simply have to accept being enslaved and weak.

FOS » 12 Feb 2023, 4:14 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Feb 2023, 4:14 pm

Well that is just the human condition and the unfortunate nature of power. War is never pleasant but the usa does it quite a lot...often when it isn't even any of our business imo (like when we fight in the middle east). I am actually opposed to all the unnecessary wars the us enters. But when war is necessary you should have the stomach for it...else you simply have to accept being enslaved and weak.

You make some fair points. So humanity hasn't found the answer yet. And may never...which is why God says trust not men. Men want the power rather than the answer.

FOS » 11 Feb 2023, 7:27 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Feb 2023, 7:27 pm

depends. THere were MANY citizens who disagreed with his views in nazi germany, and they were treated with respect. Problems would only occur among people who were actively disloyal and providing assistance to his enemies.

not getting the jab was actively disloyal to NY school board....so FASCIST

roadkill » 12 Feb 2023, 4:27 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Feb 2023, 4:27 pm

You make some fair points. So humanity hasn't found the answer yet. And may never...which is why God says trust not men. Men want the power rather than the answer.

Well the fact you cannot trust men is kinda the reason government is necessary in the first place, lol. And it goes without saying that someone is going to have power ultimately. If you are too 'nice' to not seek power, then this is simply the same as giving it to an evil person.

FOS » 12 Feb 2023, 5:26 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Feb 2023, 5:26 pm

Well the fact you cannot trust men is kinda the reason government is necessary in the first place, lol. And it goes without saying that someone is going to have power ultimately. If you are too 'nice' to not seek power, then this is simply the same as giving it to an evil person.

I disagree.  Respectfully. Don't think you have free reign with those of us who don't want the "fist".


The sleeping giant never left the building.

roadkill » 12 Feb 2023, 5:48 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Feb 2023, 5:48 pm

I disagree.  Respectfully. Don't think you have free reign with those of us who don't want the "fist".

The sleeping giant never left the building.

Free reign? Lol I am not trying to become dictator. I'm just trying to approach problems rationally

FOS » 12 Feb 2023, 5:50 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Feb 2023, 5:50 pm

Free reign? Lol I am not trying to become dictator. I'm just trying to approach problems rationally

So am I.

roadkill » 12 Feb 2023, 4:27 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Feb 2023, 4:27 pm

You make some fair points. So humanity hasn't found the answer yet. And may never...which is why God says trust not men. Men want the power rather than the answer.

Fascism is more holy and Godly than any political system except theocracy

SJConspirator » 12 Feb 2023, 7:41 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Feb 2023, 7:41 pm

Fascism is more holy and Godly than any political system except theocracy

Except for Conservatism!!!

roadkill » 11 Feb 2023, 7:44 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Feb 2023, 7:44 pm

Maybe the German people who followed Hitler were stupid...and selfish.

Hitler was a hero to a country decimated by a WW, hyperinflation and complete anarchy with 9 political parties vying for power...with which he gained power, turning their economy around and becoming a military juggernaut...and subsequently went off the deep end...
 
 

ROG62 » 12 Feb 2023, 10:13 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Feb 2023, 10:13 pm

Hitler was a hero to a country decimated by a WW, hyperinflation and complete anarchy with 9 political parties vying for power by gaining power, turning their economy around and becoming a military juggernaut...

I've got some re-thinking to do. And I thank all who provided me with more information.


One thing I feel strongly about right now is that the left is the worst threat to the world.

roadkill » 12 Feb 2023, 10:39 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Feb 2023, 10:39 pm

I've got some re-thinking to do. And I thank all who provided me with more information.

One thing I feel strongly about right now is that the left is the worst threat to the world.

"the left" is so vague.  I think youre chasing phantoms, tilting at windmills

...oooops... more 'ism  jism' [and monetary ignorance] ...    
 

roadkill » 12 Feb 2023, 5:48 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Feb 2023, 5:48 pm

I disagree.  Respectfully. Don't think you have free reign with those of us who don't want the "fist".

The sleeping giant never left the building.

...you puppet-sucking monetary ignoramuses will continue to get fi$ted by the plutocrat$, dumb@ss!...   
 
 

peepee » 13 Feb 2023, 7:28 am » wrote: ↑

13 Feb 2023, 7:28 am

...you puppet-sucking monetary ignoramuses will continue to get fi$ted by the plutocrat$, dumb@ss!... 

you got fisted by monkeys and have monkey aids

roadkill » 11 Feb 2023, 7:38 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Feb 2023, 7:38 pm

Maybe Hitler was the disloyal one in some cases? I doubt he was pure. In the pursuit of control and or war things can get complicated very quickly. Maybe Hitler was a hypocrite and broke some of his own rules?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMqQBLZwRIE

The lecture snippet makes no sense.  Germany was in horrible ruins after WW I.  The Nazi leadership resurrected the country’s economy and spirit, despite world condemnation and boycotts.    Camp laborers is a documented historical fact, and yet this pop psychologist professor rabidly spews afternoon tv theology. 

Any adult should be able to see how Germany’s pre-WWII state contradicts Peterson, but they hang on his every word like a tv pitchman flipping houses.  He looks like a cultist with a zombie tranced audience.  Many people—and college students especially—are so steeped in non-critical thinking that that will never see the irony in being awestruck from charisma over well-documented history.   
 

FOS » 11 Feb 2023, 7:27 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Feb 2023, 7:27 pm

depends. THere were MANY citizens who disagreed with his views in nazi germany, and they were treated with respect. Problems would only occur among people who were actively disloyal and providing assistance to his enemies.

Yeah sure right Hitler had nothing to say or do about people who disagreed with him.
You think you're going to sell anyone that line of crap?
https://www.britannica.com/event/Night- ... ong-Knives

Fascism:  nationalism, economic self-sufficiency, survival, etc. 

Words are misused all the time.  I doubt if many Antifa dopes know the meaning of fascism.  They're just using the word to mean authoritarian.  It's like calling someone a commie on a forum.

But you can bet Antifa's/BLM's funders know the meaning.  They're not paying for protest buses, boxed lunches, and bottled water just because they want to shake their adrenalin filled fist in the air.  

slideman » 15 Feb 2023, 1:34 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2023, 1:34 pm

Yeah sure right Hitler had nothing to say or do about people who disagreed with him.
You think you're going to sell anyone that line of crap?
https://www.britannica.com/event/Night- ... ong-Knives

You just reinforced what he said in your own article:  Britannica says:  "Some of Hitler’s other enemies were also murdered,..."