Where Are The Fiscal Conservatives?

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By ScottMon
17 Feb 2023 6:53 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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Bob » 17 Feb 2023, 10:28 am » wrote: Republican and democrats have said goodbye to reality and will banish all other sane party's off the stage like we were living in a year before Jesus was born.
Now is eternity where genetics eternally separates offspring adapting to the moment since inception. Time doesn't move except by intellectual interpretation it isn't stationary.
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BuckNaked » 17 Feb 2023, 8:47 am » wrote: Live within your means

How many get subsidized?  

But yes.. It helps to balance your checkbook and keep it positive.
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ConsRule » 17 Feb 2023, 9:31 am » wrote: I consistently beat the "cut spending drum"...regardless of who controls Congress. Both parties spend way too much money. It's a politician problem...not a political party problem.
I have plenty of axes to grind with the Democrats but at least they have some members wholy try to reducing the crazy spending.  We spend more on our military that any other country in the world.  
 
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ScottMon » 17 Feb 2023, 7:53 am » wrote: Democrats have a track record of reducing the deficit and Republicans have a history of ramping it up.  
Uh, no.   :lol:  
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ScottMon » 17 Feb 2023, 6:31 pm » wrote: I have plenty of axes to grind with the Democrats but at least they have some members wholy try to reducing the crazy spending.  We spend more on our military that any other country in the world.
 
No they don't.  In Washington, if a program has a budget of $100 billion and has a scheduled increase of $10 billion and they cut the increase to $9 billion...they say they cut spending by $1 billion.  No, they didn't...they increased spending by $9 billion.  Cutting spending would be for that program to have a budget of $99 billion.
 
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Both parties are big spenders. Where is Johnson the Ignoramus to weigh in?
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Uh, Yes.  Bill Clinton was a fiscal conservative.  He cut budgets when he was the Governor of Arizona and He was just as prolific when he worked the budget for the US.
 
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ConsRule » 17 Feb 2023, 8:04 pm » wrote: No they don't.  In Washington, if a program has a budget of $100 billion and has a scheduled increase of $10 billion and they cut the increase to $9 billion...they say they cut spending by $1 billion.  No, they didn't...they increased spending by $9 billion.  Cutting spending would be for that program to have a budget of $99 billion.
And they did this when?
 
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ConsRule » 17 Feb 2023, 8:04 pm » wrote: No they don't.  In Washington, if a program has a budget of $100 billion and has a scheduled increase of $10 billion and they cut the increase to $9 billion...they say they cut spending by $1 billion.  No, they didn't...they increased spending by $9 billion.  Cutting spending would be for that program to have a budget of $99 billion.
Mathematical semantics are a bitch Technically the answer they cut the spending by one billion is a matter of interpretation of the politics.

Numbers don't lie.  No one can hide a 9 billion dollar increase.

 
 
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ScottMon » 17 Feb 2023, 11:08 pm » wrote: Uh, Yes.  Bill Clinton was a fiscal conservative.  He cut budgets when he was the Governor of Arizona and He was just as prolific when he worked the budget for the US.
 Lol no.  Pre-WWI presidents have run surpluses.  Clinton is the only post-19th century prez to run a surplus.  It might make you feel better to know that just two republicans match Clinton.  
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PastorBlast » 18 Feb 2023, 5:53 am » wrote: Mathematical semantics are a bitch Technically the answer they cut the spending by one billion is a matter of interpretation of the politics.

Numbers don't lie.  No one can hide a 9 billion dollar increase.
lol no.  Math is a bitch for you.
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LincolnNebraska » 18 Feb 2023, 7:05 am » wrote: lol no.  Math is a bitch for you.
I am wondering how Tesla's vortex math can be applied to real world problems.  It must have inspitred three phase alternating current.

https://youtu.be/6ZrO90AI0c8
 
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PastorBlast » 18 Feb 2023, 7:09 am » wrote: I am wondering how Tesla's vortex math can be applied to real world problems.  It must have inspitred three phase alternating current.

https://youtu.be/6ZrO90AI0c8

You're still wondering how long division works, barely high school grad!   :lol:  
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LincolnNebraska » 18 Feb 2023, 7:10 am » wrote: You're still wondering how long division works, barely high school grad!   Image

I did get a D in differential equations.. I just couldn't get it.. I still can't.
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PastorBlast » 18 Feb 2023, 7:14 am » wrote: I did get a D in differential equations.. I just couldn't get it.. I still can't.
You got a D crayons.  
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you missed a preposition
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ScottMon » 17 Feb 2023, 6:31 pm » wrote: I have plenty of axes to grind with the Democrats but at least they have some members wholy try to reducing the crazy spending.  We spend more on our military that any other country in the world.  
 
When America has to police the rest of the world, isn't that necessary saving humanity from humans themselves.
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ConsRule » 17 Feb 2023, 9:31 am » wrote: I consistently beat the "cut spending drum"...regardless of who controls Congress. Both parties spend way too much money. It's a politician problem...not a political party problem.
But only one side points the stink finger at the other on the issue. Only one side is spendthrifts that yowl about spending. 

The thread title stands - WHERE ARE THE FISCAL CONSERVATIVES?
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Zeets2 » 17 Feb 2023, 9:58 am » wrote: Who is it that misinformed you by telling you it was the president who had the power of the purse?

You want to be taken seriously?  Give the comparisons of which party spent more money when they controlled Congress AND the presidency, since the president can veto it.
Six of Bush's 8 years were one party control. We had more socialism from Bush than from FDR.

Republicans are frat boys when they get the credit card.
 
The only other time in living memory that one party controlled the executive and legislature was during the kennedy johnson administration - another time of massive giveaways.
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Cannonpointer » 18 Feb 2023, 11:01 am » wrote: Six of Bush's 8 years were one party control. We had more socialism from Bush than from FDR.

Republicans are frat boys when they get the credit card.
 
The only other time in living memory that one party controlled the executive and legislature was during the kennedy johnson administration - another time of massive giveaways.
No, Obama also had a Democrat House and Senate for part of his first term and Carter had a Democrat House and Senate for all 4 years of his administration.

And you can't seriously compare FDR's socialist programs in his "New Deal" with anything that either Bush presidency brought us, in which FDR created the Social Security Act, the creation of the FDIC, the TVA, the Works Progress Administration, the Civilian Conservation Corps, the Emergency Banking Act, the Government Economy Act, the Beer/Wine Revenue Act, the Emergency Farm Mortgage Act, the Federal Emergency Relief Act, the Civil Works Administration, the National Industrial Recovery Act, the Glass-Steagall Banking Act, the National Housing Act, the Federal Communications Act, the Soil Conservation and Domestic Allotment Act, the Emergency Relief Appropriation of 1935, the Rural Electrification Act, the National Labor Relations Act/Wagner Act, the Fair Labor Standards Act, the Federal National Mortgage Association, and the Security and Exchange Commission among them.

I'm not about to claim that Republicans are overwhelmingly more fiscally responsible than Democrats, but in the present day, I seriously doubt that any other administration will compare with the wild spending of Obama and Biden, especially if the current nitwit completes his remaining two years.  And the one major factor involved causing that is the fact that Democrats notoriously cut the military budget to the bone in favor of social spending, leaving Republicans who follow them to be forced into spending a fortune rebuilding it, while the Democrat social programs never get cut and receive increased spending every year.
 
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