David Hogg says Second Amendment 'intentionally misinterpreted' to protect individual rights

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20 Feb 2023 7:05 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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ScottMon » 21 Feb 2023, 8:17 pm » wrote: I don't support taking guns away from lawful owners.  But I also don't believe that Guns are Sacred Cows.   We have a gun violence problem in America and it's heavily politized.   We're taking tiny steps to stop it when we need a full on cooperation.  
 
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Warcok » 21 Feb 2023, 8:18 pm » wrote: You're a load your mother should've swallowed
The better part of you was left dripping down the whorehouse wall.

You started this **** wishing somebody dead, for exercising his 1st Amendment rights **** hypocrite twat.
 
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Z09 » 22 Feb 2023, 5:59 am » wrote: Maineman..
Will you be turning in your gun since you're convinced you have no right to have it?
why do you insist on putting words in my mouth, you ignorant ****?
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ScottMon » 21 Feb 2023, 8:11 pm » wrote: Actually, states that its a well regulated militia.  In modern terms, That means you're in the armed services defending the country.

Except asshole, the Supreme Court has ruled it is an individual right  
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Punch » 20 Feb 2023, 8:05 pm » wrote: Image

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David Hogg says Second Amendment 'intentionally misinterpreted' to protect individual rights (msn.com)
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Gun control activist David Hogg recently stated that the Founding Fathers never intended the 2nd Amendment to protect an individual’s right to own a gun. Hogg wrote a Twitter thread on Sunday insisting that historians and law professors have informed him that the law was "intentionally misinterpreted" away from its intention to "protect state militias." "After reading about the history of the second amendment and talking with a lot of hist & law professors- I believe the second amendment has been intentionally misinterpreted. It was never meant as an individual right it was created to protect state militias like the national guard," Hogg tweeted.
He continued, "It says well-regulated militia for a reason. The ‘shall not be infringed’ part means the federal government is not allowed to forcibly disarm state militias. I’m not alone in this interpretation. Over 100 years of jurisprudence back me up on this."
He added, "To those who don’t agree that’s fine- you are entitled to your own opinion and I’m still ready to work with you on what we can agree on. Disagreement and hatred are not the same thing."
"When I graduate, I will be running for office. And I will win. Things will change, I promise you that."
He's absolutely correct.

It's a fraud
 
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FJB » 22 Feb 2023, 8:07 am » wrote: Except asshole, the Supreme Court has ruled it is an individual right
that's not locked in stone, though, is it?  SCOTUS once ruled that "separate but equal" was acceptable as well.
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maineman » 22 Feb 2023, 8:06 am » wrote: why do you insist on putting words in my mouth, you ignorant ****?
Have you seen the ones falling out of hers?
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maineman » 22 Feb 2023, 8:09 am » wrote: that's not locked in stone, though, is it?  SCOTUS once ruled that "separate but equal" was acceptable as well.

It is locked for right now...

What truly bothers me is the left is so intent on taking our rights away. Please explain why you all want to do that?
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Blackvegetable » 22 Feb 2023, 8:09 am » wrote: He's absolutely correct.

It's a fraud

You are wrong.  I posted this yesterday:

And the counter to that is from the moment the 2nd was ratified in 1791 until 1934 when the National Firearms Act was signed, there was no gun legislation passed by the Federal Government.  The framers became politicians and presidents and no changes were were made.  None.  As a matter of fact Madison funded research and development of technology to mass produce repeating rifles so the common citizen could afford one.  

So I disagree with you. 

Last I checked Madison was considered the father of the second amendment and instrumental in processes to make firearms cheaper for the common citizen.  
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Z09 » 22 Feb 2023, 5:59 am » wrote: Maineman..
Will you be turning in your gun since you're convinced you have no right to have it?
When the law says the public shall not have legal possession of automatic pistols and rifles, anybody who actually supports law and order will turn in their automatic pistols and rifles.

Although I am well trained and have a history of high proficiency with guns, I have chosen not to own or posses any guns.
 
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Burger was a Republican who was appointed chief justice of the Supreme Court by President Richard Nixon in 1969 and served for 17 years until 1986. In retirement in 1991, Burger said that the Second Amendment “has been the subject of one of the greatest pieces of fraud, I repeat the word fraud, on the American public by special interest groups that I have ever seen in my lifetime."

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Huey » 22 Feb 2023, 8:12 am » wrote: You are wrong.  I posted this yesterday:

And the counter to that is from the moment the 2nd was ratified in 1791 until 1934 when the National Firearms Act was signed, there was no gun legislation passed by the Federal Government.  The framers became politicians and presidents and no changes were were made.  None.  As a matter of fact Madison funded research and development of technology to mass produce repeating rifles so the common citizen could afford one.  

So I disagree with you. 

Last I checked Madison was considered the father of the second amendment and instrumental in processes to make firearms cheaper for the common citizen.
Don't presume.

You're a moron.
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FJB » 22 Feb 2023, 8:12 am » wrote: It is locked for right now...

What truly bothers me is the left is so intent on taking our rights away. Please explain why you all want to do that?
It's not locked ever.... all it ever takes is a landmark case  and everything changes.  Roe v Wade was locked in stone too. 

And I don't want to take anyone's rights away.  

Two questions:

Do you think you have the right to own a surface to air shoulder mounted missile?  And if not, why not?

Do you think we ought to allow seven year olds to purchase AR-15s?  And if not, why not?
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maineman » 22 Feb 2023, 8:17 am » wrote: It's not locked ever.... all it ever takes is a landmark case  and everything changes.  Roe v Wade was locked in stone too. 

And I don't want to take anyone's rights away.  

Two questions:

Do you think you have the right to own a surface to air shoulder mounted missile?  And if not, why not?

Do you think we ought to allow seven year olds to purchase AR-15s?  And if not, why not?

1. There is no Federal Ban on Abortion, Roe v Wade was not overturned.

2.Why do you leftist insist on bringing up types of weapons that will never be made available to the public?

3. There are already age limitations for AR's.

You people really need to STOP fearmongering. 
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ScottMon » 21 Feb 2023, 8:24 pm » wrote: All over the country, Red Flag laws have popped up.  Police forces are trained to rush the shooter instead of waiting outside like the Uvalde Cops did.
And exactly how have those red flag laws stopped gun violence?

 
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FJB » 22 Feb 2023, 8:20 am » wrote: 1. There is no Federal Ban on Abortion, Roe v Wade was not overturned.

2.Why do you leftist insist on bringing up types of weapons that will never be made available to the public?

3. There are already age limitations for AR's.

You people really need to STOP fearmongering.
 
you really need to put on your big boy pants and answer questions.

Why ARE some arms not available to the public if the people's right to bear arms is individual and absolute?
Why ARE there age limitations for AR's if the people's right to bear arms is individual and absolute? 
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maineman » 22 Feb 2023, 8:25 am » wrote: you really need to put on your big boy pants and answer questions.

Why ARE some arms not available to the public if the people's right to bear arms is individual and absolute?
Why ARE there age limitations for AR's if the people's right to bear arms is individual and absolute?

I did answer the stupid talking points that you leftist use all the time.

Some "weapons" were not made for public use. NOTICE HOW I SAID WEAPONS AND NOT ARMS?

DO YOU REALLY WANT A 9 YEAR OLD WALKING AROUND WITH AN AR? 

GET REAL YOU **** RETARD LIBERAL ASSWIPE
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ConsRule » 22 Feb 2023, 8:25 am » wrote: And exactly how have those red flag laws stopped gun violence?
We don't know for sure if they have.  But It's become necessary because nothing else is being done.
 
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ScottMon » 22 Feb 2023, 8:34 am » wrote: We don't know for sure if they have.  But It's become necessary because nothing else is being done.

Maybe if the fbi assholes would do their jobs instead of going after people that speak their minds, we wouldn't have all this gun violence 
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ScottMon » 22 Feb 2023, 8:34 am » wrote: We don't know for sure if they have.  But It's become necessary because nothing else is being done.
 
So you were making **** up...again.
 
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