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slideman » 26 Feb 2023, 12:13 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Feb 2023, 12:13 pm

I know Russia invaded Ukraine and you claim otherwise.
Somebody is deluded and it's not me.

lol...and what date would you say Russia invaded ukraine?

Trumprules » 26 Feb 2023, 12:15 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Feb 2023, 12:15 pm

FOS doesn't know that in the 1990s Russia signed an agreement to not attack Ukraine if they gave up their nukes. And FOS wants us to believe with disinfornation like most fascist love that ukraine attacked Russia which is not the case.

I am not speaking about that at all

slideman » 26 Feb 2023, 12:16 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Feb 2023, 12:16 pm

It doesn't surprise me that you uphold an authoritarian anti-democracy fascist.
You are an extremely limited imagination. Not enough imagination to grasp what the founders gave us.

 

THE FOUNDERS: "peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none'...

BIDUMPTARDS, etc. fkn idiots and monetary ignoramuses: "Warmongering, meddling, and foreign intervention all over the planet, entangling alliances with all"...  
 
 

Taipan » 26 Feb 2023, 11:14 am » wrote: ↑

26 Feb 2023, 11:14 am

I have always been a Crusader for Truth, Light, Goodness, & Justice.
I am often on the side of the out-manned, out-gunned, out-funded, unpopular, underdog.
I ain't afraid of no ghosts !!
Today, I am on the Ukraine side because I think Heaven is on the Ukraine side.
Whose side are you on ?                                          :)  

Stop with the epic poetry of doubt is greater than recognizing life for all it ever was. You loathe the concept of being equally created as just another replacement pretending life exceeds their time biologically here.

why you depend on art to symbolize what you rather be than all you have been since conceived. You rather rule in eternal hell than be equally alive in plain sight now.

Your behavioral patterns give you away, even in vernacular use of a common language.

roadkill » 26 Feb 2023, 12:34 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Feb 2023, 12:34 pm

Zelensky is the one playing games.

Zelensky was elected by the people and is one brave dude. 
While you are at most, a pest and a troll.

Xavier_Onassis » 26 Feb 2023, 12:53 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Feb 2023, 12:53 pm

Zelensky was elected by the people and is one brave dude. 
While you are at most, a pest and a troll.

If you only knew "Oassis".  Yer a clueless ***.   

Xavier_Onassis » 26 Feb 2023, 12:53 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Feb 2023, 12:53 pm

Zelensky was elected by the people and is one brave dude. 
While you are at most, a pest and a troll.

Was yanukovych also elected? Or wait...I'm guessing you never heard of him...

"Ordeshook argued that data from the second round of Ukraine's presidential elections in October 2004, which were widely criticized by international observers, demonstrate similar irregularities to those observed in Russia's 2004 election. The irregularities overwhelmingly favored "party of power" candidate Viktor Yanukovych. Ukrainian electoral districts, like Russian districts, were characterized by a division between those with normal voter turnout and those with high turnout. According to Ordeshook, in regions of Southern and Eastern Ukraine, Yanukovych benefited from the "excess" turnout, while Yushchenko benefited to a lesser extent in Western regions. While there were irregularities on both sides, they were on a very different scale. Ordeshook argued that Yushchenko received a maximum of 670,000 suspect votes, while Yanukovych received up to 3.8 million. He noted further that an inordinately large percentage of votes cast during the last few hours of the election went to Yanukovych, when, it appears, his supporters "panicked because they realized they were going to loose unless they did something about it."

https://www.wilsoncenter.org/publicatio ... xperiences

If the US had lost the Revolution, what would have happened?

We would all be C A N A D I A N S, athough I think we would be called British Americans.



 
 
There are certainly less fortunate fates than that.
 
 

slideman » 26 Feb 2023, 1:06 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Feb 2023, 1:06 pm

"Ordeshook argued that data from the second round of Ukraine's presidential elections in October 2004, which were widely criticized by international observers, demonstrate similar irregularities to those observed in Russia's 2004 election. The irregularities overwhelmingly favored "party of power" candidate Viktor Yanukovych. Ukrainian electoral districts, like Russian districts, were characterized by a division between those with normal voter turnout and those with high turnout. According to Ordeshook, in regions of Southern and Eastern Ukraine, Yanukovych benefited from the "excess" turnout, while Yushchenko benefited to a lesser extent in Western regions. While there were irregularities on both sides, they were on a very different scale. Ordeshook argued that Yushchenko received a maximum of 670,000 suspect votes, while Yanukovych received up to 3.8 million. He noted further that an inordinately large percentage of votes cast during the last few hours of the election went to Yanukovych, when, it appears, his supporters "panicked because they realized they were going to loose unless they did something about it."

https://www.wilsoncenter.org/publicatio ... xperiences

this is cope and spin lol...obvious propaganda. 

But it seems to make a serious admission, doesn't it? Ukranian elections can be very corrupt!

Now it is quite interesting that yanukovych was not voted out of office...right? No...he was forced out of power by a nato backed coup.

is that what you consider democracy? 
 

And the reason that the usa was willing to just kill yanukovych and his supporters is because...he was pro Russian.

Now that is simply an act of war imo. Putin should have considered the coup a declaration of war by the usa on Russia. And ukranians today should consider their country occupied by the usa.

The usa tried to do the same nonsense in belarus...but putin nipped it in the bud and it did not work. This is why Belarus is so loyal to putin.

roadkill » 26 Feb 2023, 12:56 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Feb 2023, 12:56 pm

If you only knew "Oassis".  Yer a clueless ***.   

Nobody can deny life without knowing how living occurs in plain sight.

Nostradamus'omh » 26 Feb 2023, 1:20 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Feb 2023, 1:20 pm

Nobody can deny life without knowing how living occurs in plain sight.

 

FOS » 26 Feb 2023, 1:13 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Feb 2023, 1:13 pm

this is cope and spin lol...obvious propaganda. 

But it seems to make a serious admission, doesn't it? Ukranian elections can be very corrupt!

Now it is quite interesting that yanukovych was not voted out of office...right? No...he was forced out of power by a nato backed coup.

is that what you consider democracy?

**** of, you disgusting Nazi! You don't want a democracy, you want a Fascist dictatorship.

FOS » 26 Feb 2023, 1:17 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Feb 2023, 1:17 pm

The usa tried to do the same nonsense in belarus...but putin nipped it in the bud and it did not work. This is why Belarus is so loyal to putin.

Belarus is a POLICE STATE and most Belorussians would like to see the current regime gone, dead and buried.
Putin supports the present Belarussian government.

Xavier_Onassis » 26 Feb 2023, 1:42 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Feb 2023, 1:42 pm

Belarus is a POLICE STATE and most Belorussians would like to see the current regime gone, dead and buried.
Putin supports the present Belarussian government.

Lol you don't know that. This is just western propaganda. How many people from Belarus do you actually speak to?

Xavier_Onassis » 26 Feb 2023, 1:40 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Feb 2023, 1:40 pm

**** of, you disgusting Nazi! You don't want a democracy, you want a Fascist dictatorship.

Lol you are crying about me...but you aren't disputing the simple facts that I gave which put the whole russia/Ukraine conflict in a more accurate perspective than your propaganda nonsense

FOS » 26 Feb 2023, 1:44 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Feb 2023, 1:44 pm

Lol you don't know that. This is just western propaganda. How many people from Belarus do you actually speak to?

I personally know thousands of Belorussians don't you?
Sucker

slideman » 26 Feb 2023, 11:42 am » wrote: ↑

26 Feb 2023, 11:42 am

There will be peace when Russia withdraws to within its borders.
Simple isn't it

----------- avoiding the question why biden lied about china sending weapons to russia.