What if We ACtually Taxed the Rich?

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By nuckin futz
3 Mar 2023 1:47 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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Jes'Fuchinwitcha » 05 Mar 2023, 9:55 am » wrote: I tried googling how many poor people all have smartphones, smoking and imbibing..., but got no hits. One partial said 85% of all Americans have a cell phone, though. It didn't say if that included children.

Another article did point out that people with phones, smokes, and booze do pay taxes. 

I don't want to pick, but I think your statement is temious.
It was a point being made that most people in those positions make poor decisions entrenching themselves in poverty...
 
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5 Mar 2023 12:56 pm
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slideman » 05 Mar 2023, 1:50 pm » wrote: I have a real problem with the fact that fauci lied about the masks early on when he said that they weren't effective when he actually thought they were.
That said I think the public health authorities were largely in good faith and tried to do the best they could to contain the pandemic. I think the assertion that it was an attempt to create an authoritarian government is absurd.
What is good about faith?

Brains are more susceptable to power of suggesting life is more than all it ever was when reproductively living as eternally separated in plain sight. Ancestors are willing to perform as typecast people defedning stereotypical behavior all 5 generation gaps present.

Academia and arts, social consensus and economics, leading defiers of life in real time organizing deniers to take the fall when honesty is lost until extinction arrives.
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5 Mar 2023 1:02 pm
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slideman » 05 Mar 2023, 1:50 pm » wrote: I have a real problem with the fact that fauci lied about the masks early on when he said that they weren't effective when he actually thought they were.
That said I think the public health authorities were largely in good faith and tried to do the best they could to contain the pandemic. I think the assertion that it was an attempt to create an authoritarian government is absurd.
I didn't say anything about creating. It was a test of powers already in place and a gauge of public reaction. A preparation step, not an establishment. Jan 6th was a further test. See how far they can inflate four hours of idiocy into a legitimate threat to our government. Largely successful. Those saying the event was grossly exaggerated are labeled terrorist sympathizers. 
 
 
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slideman » 05 Mar 2023, 1:18 pm » wrote: What would you suggest we do with people who are disabled and can't work?
          I'm not speaking of the truly needy, which we do have numerous assistance programs for--both Federally & Privately funded --- I am speaking of those who Vote for a living..  For too many people, Government handouts have morphed into a reward system for failure, laziness & irresponsibility in exchange for Votes... This was by design...  I'm all for throwing those not in true need off the roles, and those Dollars can be redirected to the folks qualified & deserving... 
  
 
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5 Mar 2023 1:22 pm
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nuckinfutz » 03 Mar 2023, 2:47 pm » wrote: None of you peasants are super rich, so you should be all for this!
https://youtu.be/-RS_BtLB3QE
just wait until the dems all get booted out because of trans issues. not all democrat voters are for trans and won't vote democrat. the democratic party will collapse because of trans issues.
 
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jerra b » 05 Mar 2023, 2:22 pm » wrote: just wait until the dems all get booted out because of trans issues. not all democrat voters are for trans and won't vote democrat. the democratic party will collapse because of trans issues.
 
No it won't. it will collapse because humanity brought about the finally of orginal sin. Guess what that simple original sin was? Never intellectually accepting genetics eternally separates active reproductions here now.
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jerrab » 05 Mar 2023, 2:22 pm » wrote: just wait until the dems all get booted out because of trans issues. not all democrat voters are for trans and won't vote democrat. the democratic party will collapse because of trans issues.
        You're spot on.... 
The best current example of this can be seen here in Florida with the passage of our Parental Rights in Education Bill that Desantis signed into law, that keeps Tranny curriculum out of our Pre-Kindergarten through 3rd Grade classrooms.. The lying devient Leftists and their friends in the MSM relabled it as the "Don't Say Gay" Bill, and still failed miserably to stop it, as an overwhelming number of Floridians (of all Political persuasions) supported it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXjB30rAUbw
                            
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Kobia2 » 05 Mar 2023, 2:46 pm » wrote:         You're spot on.... 
The best current example of this can be seen here in Florida with the passage of our Parental Rights in Education Bill that Desantis signed into law, that keeps Tranny curriculum out of our Pre-Kindergarten through 3rd Grade classrooms.. The lying devient Leftists and their friends in the MSM relabled it as the "Don't Say Gay" Bill, and still failed miserably to stop it, as an overwhelming number of Floridians (of all Political persuasions) supported it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXjB30rAUbw
                            
What about 4-9 grades? 10-12 grades most are already programmed to deceive themselves cradle to grave anyway.
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5 Mar 2023 3:25 pm
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slideman » 05 Mar 2023, 1:50 pm » wrote: I have a real problem with the fact that fauci lied about the masks early on when he said that they weren't effective when he actually thought they were.
That said I think the public health authorities were largely in good faith and tried to do the best they could to contain the pandemic. I think the assertion that it was an attempt to create an authoritarian government is absurd.
He said the truth the first time. Nothing short of a professionally fit N95 has any real hope of filtering an aerosolized virus. 
 
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Kobia2 » 05 Mar 2023, 1:09 pm » wrote:             Leftist Progressive assholes have made the "Safety Net" a viable career path for many, rather than the temporary emergency assistance it is supposed to be.. 
Don't forget that it's generational as well. Seems they figured out that by having MANY "baby daddies" means MO MONEY!! They ever teach classes in their "community centers" on how to apply and get the "maximum" amount they can milk off the government WITHOUT lifting a finger to get it.
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slideman » 05 Mar 2023, 12:12 pm » wrote: Eisenhower had a massive war debt to consider when he massively raised taxes.

You think we have no debt now?

That's the budget without the line item veto. That was the trick during the Clinton administration until it was deemed unconstitutional. Wish we still had it.
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Nostradamus'omh » 05 Mar 2023, 2:57 pm » wrote: What about 4-9 grades? 10-12 grades most are already programmed to deceive themselves cradle to grave anyway.
           Based on how poorly so many of our Public Schools perform, the effort & curriculum should be focused on improving the education levels of the Students in Math, Science & English -- not mental illnesses and alternative lifestyle choices that have nothing to do with academic instruction & achievement... It really doesn't need to be in the classroom at all, regardless of Grade
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BlueDevil » 05 Mar 2023, 4:29 pm » wrote: Why?  What's the benefit of higher taxes on anybody?
This is not about paying higher taxes, son! Its about tax cheats who pay nothing!
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nuckinfutz » 05 Mar 2023, 8:52 pm » wrote: This is not about paying higher taxes, son! Its about tax cheats who pay nothing!
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          If someone is "paying nothing" it's likely they incurred losses in previous calendar tax year which are offsetting any tax money owed in a subsequent year... If you think the Tax Laws should be changed, that's another discussion -- but at present, people are only required to pay what the code requires.. Do you know of anyone who is paying a Dime more than what their accountants tells them?
 
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nuckinfutz » 05 Mar 2023, 8:52 pm » wrote: This is not about paying higher taxes, son! Its about tax cheats who pay nothing!
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You seem totally confused.

A TAX CHEAT always gets caught since they are BREAKING THE LAW!!

MOST people who pay less taxes are using TAX LAWS to their advantage to PAY LESS IN TAXES and that is PERFECTLY LEGAL!! It called TAX AVOIDANCE and is why no one goes to prison for AVOIDING PAYING TAXES LEGALLY!!

Sucks for you that YOUR VERY OWN DEMOCRAT NAZIS wrote laws to shield their donor class and elitists from paying so much in taxes, huh??
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nuckin futz » 05 Mar 2023, 8:52 pm » wrote: This is not about paying higher taxes, son! Its about tax cheats who pay nothing!
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Cheats getting paid by taxes just for illegally coming into this country, invited by our(some elected representatives) own policy wonkers and the electorate cannot stop it or they lose everything their family earned as citizens, in court.
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nuckinfutz » 05 Mar 2023, 8:52 pm » wrote: This is not about paying higher taxes, son! Its about tax cheats who pay nothing!
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What did you pay in taxes the last year.....better yet, how about your lifetime?

I've paid millions....and you?
 
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RebelGator » 06 Mar 2023, 6:40 am » wrote: What did you pay in taxes the last year.....better yet, how about your lifetime?

I've paid millions....and you?
 
Look at you playing psychological warfare and reverse psychology getting someone to expose personal information nobody else needs to know about to be used against them afterwards.

Your mind must consider yourself an intellectual genius most never pick up on how corrupted your became in real time.
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Z09 » 06 Mar 2023, 7:04 am » wrote: There's plenty of tax cheats..
But there's millions that pay nothing and live off the government...
And that's more serious

Tax cheats will get caught.
It's criminal

However, millions are sucking off the system which is now just part of life
    
                   I noticed that as well.... Many of those who call for others to pay their "fair share" don't kick in a Dime themselves, and in fact rely on those who do for survival.. 
 
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Beekeeper » 06 Mar 2023, 6:14 am » wrote: You seem totally confused.

A TAX CHEAT always gets caught since they are BREAKING THE LAW!!

MOST people who pay less taxes are using TAX LAWS to their advantage to PAY LESS IN TAXES and that is PERFECTLY LEGAL!! It called TAX AVOIDANCE and is why no one goes to prison for AVOIDING PAYING TAXES LEGALLY!!

Sucks for you that YOUR VERY OWN DEMOCRAT NAZIS wrote laws to shield their donor class and elitists from paying so much in taxes, huh??
So you think its ok for TAX CHEAT TRUMP to avoid paying his taxes, huh? :evil:   :evil:   :evil:  
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