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Pastafarian » 12 Mar 2023, 3:53 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Mar 2023, 3:53 pm

It's not the people turning school children over to drag queens for sexualization who are groomers.

It's ANYONE WHO OPPOSES ABORTION.

I'm pro-choice, and that makes ZERO sense, queer.
 

Pastafarian » 11 Mar 2023, 8:14 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Mar 2023, 8:14 pm

I’m sure every pro-life, high moral douchebag says yes.

Christian groomers don’t have a leg to stand on when it comes to morality.

Except abortion laws have exceptions for this. 
Sorry, sucks to be you.
 

Pastafarian » 11 Mar 2023, 8:14 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Mar 2023, 8:14 pm

I’m sure every pro-life, high moral douchebag says yes.

Christian groomers don’t have a leg to stand on when it comes to morality.

Don't expect to get an answer.  A rapist will assault a child for 15 minutes. Cons want to continue victimizing them for 9 more months. They are sick bastards.

golfboy » 12 Mar 2023, 7:17 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Mar 2023, 7:17 pm

Except abortion laws have exceptions for this. 
Sorry, sucks to be you.

Some, not all. It shouldn't be up to debate.

Punch » 12 Mar 2023, 9:46 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Mar 2023, 9:46 pm

Some, not all. It shouldn't be up to debate.

Who's doesn't?
 

Pastafarian » 11 Mar 2023, 8:14 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Mar 2023, 8:14 pm

I’m sure every pro-life, high moral douchebag says yes.

Christian groomers don’t have a leg to stand on when it comes to morality.

No. Your mom should have aborted you. 

ScottMon » 11 Mar 2023, 9:10 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Mar 2023, 9:10 pm

It's exceedingly clear that if we needed someone to defend children from anything, you'd not be the one they should call.

Why not?

Pastafarian » 11 Mar 2023, 8:14 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Mar 2023, 8:14 pm

I’m sure every pro-life, high moral douchebag says yes.

Christian groomers don’t have a leg to stand on when it comes to morality.

Re: Should an underage girl be forced to give birth to her pedo rapist’s child?

No

Pastafarian » 11 Mar 2023, 8:14 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Mar 2023, 8:14 pm

 

You new avatar you were branded with is hilarious!    

Pastafarian » 11 Mar 2023, 8:14 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Mar 2023, 8:14 pm

I’m sure every pro-life, high moral douchebag says yes.

Christian groomers don’t have a leg to stand on when it comes to morality.

Only if she wants it.

Vegas » 11 Mar 2023, 9:33 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Mar 2023, 9:33 pm

Yes, she should give birth. Two wrongs don't make a right. Kill the rapist, but don't punish the unborn because the rapist is a scumbag.

Even as a Conservative, I will say that I disagree with this.  I believe that abortion is justified in the case of genuine rape.  As well as with incest, where a father has sex with his daughter.  I wouldn't even consider it a sin.

Deuteronomy 22:25-29    
But if in the field the man finds the girl who is engaged, and the man forces her and lies with her, then only the man who lies with her shall die. But you shall do nothing to the girl; there is no sin in the girl worthy of death, for just as a man rises against his neighbor and murders him, so is this case. When he found her in the field, the engaged girl cried out, but there was no one to save her.

1 Peter 3:7   Verse Concepts
You husbands in the same way, live with your wives in an understanding way, as with someone weaker, since she is a woman; and show her honor as a fellow heir of the grace of life, so that your prayers will not be hindered.

A violent rape transgressed upon a woman is an sinful abomination.  It is a sin only men who embrace the ways of Satan would force upon a woman.  If I were a woman and forced to carry a rapist's baby to term, I'd drown the spawn of evil as soon as it was born.  I think it is best to allow abortions in such cases, and in such cases the woman commits no sin. She is erasing the spawn of Satan, born out of violence and horror, and as such does the world justice in her deed.
 

Skans » 13 Mar 2023, 10:32 am » wrote: ↑

13 Mar 2023, 10:32 am

Deuteronomy 22:25-29    
But if in the field the man finds the girl who is engaged, and the man forces her and lies with her, then only the man who lies with her shall die. But you shall do nothing to the girl; there is no sin in the girl worthy of death, for just as a man rises against his neighbor and murders him, so is this case. When he found her in the field, the engaged girl cried out, but there was no one to save her.

 

This says nothing about pregnancy and abortion. Only rape.

1 Peter 3:7   Verse Concepts
You husbands in the same way, live with your wives in an understanding way, as with someone weaker, since she is a woman; and show her honor as a fellow heir of the grace of life, so that your prayers will not be hindered.

Same with this. This says nothing about pregnancy and abortion. Only rape.

A violent rape transgressed upon a woman is an sinful abomination.  It is a sin only men who embrace the ways of Satan would force upon a woman.  If I were a woman and forced to carry a rapist's baby to term, I'd drown the spawn of evil as soon as it was born.  I think it is best to allow abortions in such cases, and in such cases the woman commits no sin. She is erasing the spawn of Satan, born out of violence and horror, and as such does the world justice in her deed.

You are assuming the spawn of Satan is the unborn. Completely illogical. The unborn is no such thing, nor can they ever, in any logical capacity, be considered as Satan's spawn. 

Vegas » 13 Mar 2023, 10:35 am » wrote: ↑

13 Mar 2023, 10:35 am

This says nothing about pregnancy and abortion. Only rape.

Same with this. This says nothing about pregnancy and abortion. Only rape.

You are assuming the spawn of Satan is the unborn. Completely illogical. The unborn is no such thing, nor can they ever, in any logical capacity, be considered as Satan's spawn.

The Bible does not prohibit abortion.  Nowhere in the bible does it say that abortion cannot be had.  This is a construct of man.

Rape is most certainly addressed in the Bible, and it is attributable to Satan.  I will not turn my back upon those girls/women who have been transgressed by men who follow the Devil. These women are sinless and whatever they do to address the abomination growing inside of them is sinless as well. 

I ask: "Who are you to thrust sin upon a woman brutally raped by an evil man, when God casts no stone?"

John 3:8 " The one who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil’s work."

John 8:44  " You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies."

Peter 5:88 "Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour."

 
 

Skans » 13 Mar 2023, 10:42 am » wrote: ↑

13 Mar 2023, 10:42 am

The Bible does not prohibit abortion.  Nowhere in the bible does it say that abortion cannot be had.  This is a construct of man.

Rape is most certainly addressed in the Bible, and it is attributable to Satan.  I will not turn my back upon those girls/women who have been transgressed by men who follow the Devil. They are sinless and whatever they do to address the abomination growing inside of them is sinless as well.John 3:8 " The one who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil’s work."

John 8:44  " You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies."

Peter 5:88 Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour.

There are many immoral acts that the bible doesn't mention. The New testament is more applicable than the old. Nowhere, in the New Testament, does Jesus advocate for killing innocent life in any context. He even advocates for forgiving the guilty. 

Skans » 13 Mar 2023, 10:42 am » wrote: ↑

13 Mar 2023, 10:42 am

The Bible does not prohibit abortion.  Nowhere in the bible does it say that abortion cannot be had.  This is a construct of man.

Rape is most certainly addressed in the Bible, and it is attributable to Satan.  I will not turn my back upon those girls/women who have been transgressed by men who follow the Devil. These women are sinless and whatever they do to address the abomination growing inside of them is sinless as well.

John 3:8 " The one who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil’s work."

John 8:44  " You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies."

Peter 5:88 Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour. 
 
 
 

The Bible is parables of what went wrong socially pretending life is more than simple genetic compounding changing population remaining forward one great great grandchild at a time now.

The process hasn't changed since inception.

Vegas » 13 Mar 2023, 10:45 am » wrote: ↑

13 Mar 2023, 10:45 am

There are many immoral acts that the bible doesn't mention. The New testament is more applicable than the old. Nowhere, in the New Testament, does Jesus advocate for killing innocent life in any context. He even advocates for forgiving the guilty.

I submit that life which began with an evil man pommeling and torturing a woman until she can no longer resist his evil seed is of Satan and therefor not an innocent life.  It is a life created, not by God, but by violence, force, torture, anger, lust, hate, vile, hurt and sorrow. There is nothing innocent about such a life.  Jesus stands as a beacon of light as to what men and women we should aspire to become.  He does not command you to be blind to that which is pure evil.

I recognize Satan for who and what he is, what he stands for, and even if you feel Jesus was silent on the subject, this does not give us any ground to turn our heads to the plight of someone defiled by the influences of Satan.  Therefore, in the cases of violent rape and father-daughter(child) incest, there is but one innocent life for outsiders to be concerned with, that of the defiled woman. I stand with the female who is afflicted with the Devil's spawn and I morally approve of whatever her decision is concerning her own predicament.  I believe my support of abortion in such cases is both moral and biblically justified.  I also believe that God will judge her kindly and with love, regardless of what her decision is. 

 
 

Skans » 13 Mar 2023, 10:53 am » wrote: ↑

13 Mar 2023, 10:53 am

I submit that life which began with an evil man pommeling and torturing a woman until she can no longer resist his evil seed is of Satan and therefor not an innocent life.  It is a life created, not by God, but by violence, force, torture, anger, lust, hate and vile. There is nothing innocent about such a life.  Jesus stands as a beacon of light as to what men and women we should aspire to become.  He does not command you to be blind to that which is pure evil.

I recognize Satan for who and what he is, what he stands for, and even if you feel Jesus was silent on the subject, this does not give you any ground to turn your head to the plight of someone defiled by the influences of Satan.
 
 
 

I have to double check something before doing this post, the separation of who and whom.

who is subject, whom is specific object.
so Satan, Devil is simply the behavioral patterns of a person or people. Whom is the person, people doing the deeds.

What is enlightenment compared to always aware of one's proportionate time occupying space only evolving one at a time here now?

Seeking possibilities life isn't self evident and it doesn't matter if it is completely accurate or not. Sure fits corrupted absolute power of suggesting now isn't eternity and every reality serving humanity is governed to ignore natural process of only evolving here now.

Skans » 13 Mar 2023, 10:53 am » wrote: ↑

13 Mar 2023, 10:53 am

I submit that life which began with an evil man pommeling and torturing a woman until she can no longer resist his evil seed is of Satan and therefor not an innocent life.  It is a life created, not by God, but by violence, force, torture, anger, lust, hate, vile, hurt and sorrow. There is nothing innocent about such a life.  Jesus stands as a beacon of light as to what men and women we should aspire to become.  He does not command you to be blind to that which is pure evil.

I recognize Satan for who and what he is, what he stands for, and even if you feel Jesus was silent on the subject, this does not give us any ground to turn our heads to the plight of someone defiled by the influences of Satan.  Therefore, in the cases of violent rape and father-daughter(child) incest, there is but one innocent life for outsiders to be concerned with, that of the defiled woman. I stand with the female who is afflicted with the Devil's spawn and I morally approve of whatever her decision is concerning her own predicament.  I believe my support of abortion in such cases is both moral and biblically justified.  I also believe that God will judge her kindly and with love, regardless of what her decision is.

Then you have to believe in predeterminism for all. Not just the case of an unborn from a rapist. This means all of us have a predetermined destiny, regardless of our life choices. 

Vegas » 13 Mar 2023, 11:31 am » wrote: ↑

13 Mar 2023, 11:31 am

Then you have to believe in predeterminism for all. Not just the case of an unborn from a rapist. This means all of us have a predetermined destiny, regardless of our life choices.

No.  I do not have to believe in per-determinism. I simply do not believe that all life, particularly that conceived of violence, torture, anger and rage, is innocent. I believe evil exists and that victims of evil deserve not to be judged by us should she decided to terminate the life created out of pure evil.
 
 

LincolnNebraska » 11 Mar 2023, 8:36 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Mar 2023, 8:36 pm

Here are the losers with the pedo designation.  Did I miss anyone?

@ScottMon  
@maineman  
@slideman  
@Phelix_Dacat  
@Pastafarian  
@Trumprules  
@Ike Bana  
@B.See  
@Blackvegetable  
@Squatchman  
@Xavier_Onassis

The board registered sex offenders