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Xavier_Onassis » 12 Mar 2023, 6:38 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Mar 2023, 6:38 pm

Now you are assuming that  members of one group (transgendered men who want to compete as women) are also members of another (people who have no sexual urges at all that call themselves 'genderless').

No, I'm not. You are misunderstanding the issue.

They are genderless - I am granting that silliness. But they are not SEXLESS. They have a sex. Might be male, might be female, but they have ONE OR THE OTHER of the two human sexes recognized by science.

Xavier_Onassis » 12 Mar 2023, 6:38 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Mar 2023, 6:38 pm

But of course, this is untrue. Anyone who cares enough about gender to want to change their sex, is CLEARLY not genderless.

Of course it's untrue. That's likely why you want me to defend it. It's just your way of ducking the question, track star. Now, put on those running shoes, because here it comes again:

Given that gender is not sex, why should a mere gender claim affect what sex you shower or compete with?

Off to the races with you.

 
 

Cannonpointer » 12 Mar 2023, 6:44 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Mar 2023, 6:44 pm

No, I'm not. You are misunderstanding the issue.

They are genderless - I am granting that silliness. But they are not SEXLESS. They have a sex. Might be male, might be female, but they have ONE OR THE OTHER of the two human sexes recognized by science.

Of course it's untrue. That's likely why you want me to defend it. It's just your way of ducking the question, track star. Now, put on those running shoes, because here it comes again:

Given that gender is not sex, why should a mere gender claim affect what sex you shower or compete with?

Off to the races with you.

Sex refers to the physical organs that a person is born with.  Nearly all are born with male or female organs, but a few hermaphrodites  are born with both.

Gender refers to the  mental mindset of the person. Nearly all people have the same gender as sex, but not all.
There are very few women that assume a male identity to compete in men's sports.
The problem of who showers with whom is not really an insolvable problem. Just put locking doors on each individual shower stall.

If men competing as women were actually raping women in showers, then you might have a point, but this does not happen.

Xavier_Onassis » 12 Mar 2023, 6:56 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Mar 2023, 6:56 pm

Sex refers to the physical organs that a person is born with.  Nearly all are born with male or female organs, but a few hermaphrodites  are born with both.

Gender refers to the  mental mindset of the person. Nearly all people have the same gender as sex, but not all.
There are very few women that assume a male identity to compete in men's sports.
The problem of who showers with whom is not really an insolvable problem. Just put locking doors on each individual shower stall.

If men competing as women were actually raping women in showers, then you might have a point, but this does not happen.

Except that you are a liar. Trannies are men, and men are  TEN TIMES LIKELIER to sexually aggress women than vice versa. FOR THIS REASON, we give women their own spaces. There are numerous reports - and I have shown you many - of trans persons sexually aggressing against women and girls. 

IN THEIR FORMERLY SAFE SPACES.

Pretending along with ANY MAN ON EARTH who merely makes a claim - nay,protecting them from even having to VOICE THAT CLAIM as a cost of entering spaces where women and girls are naked - is misogynist.

Until you anti-science fruitcakes can list MEASURABLE, OBJECTIVE CRITERIA by which such claims can be judged (Look, he cur his dick off and had a tuck and stuff - that sort of thing), this thing you pretend exists (woman trapped in man's body) fails the test of western science which you cheese dicks fetishize when it suits you. 

Now, AGAIN, track star: WHY SHOULD A GENDER CLAIM ALTER WHAT SEX YOU COMPETE WITH, IF GENDER IS NOT SEX?
 
 

Xavier_Onassis » 12 Mar 2023, 6:56 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Mar 2023, 6:56 pm

Gender refers to the  mental mindset of the person. Nearly all people have the same gender as sex, but not all.

 

Then there is no such thing as a "trans"gender then... by that logic. There is just gender, period.

The only "trans" would be a transsexual, which would apply to someone that has surgically altered their sex organs from what they were naturally born with.

If gender is a "state of mind" as you progressives like to say, then there is nothing to trans. It just is what the person believes it to be.

 

RedheadedStranger » 12 Mar 2023, 7:08 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Mar 2023, 7:08 pm

Then there is no such thing as a "trans"gender then... by that logic. There is just gender, period.

The only "trans" would be a transsexual, which would apply to someone that has surgically altered their sex organs from what they were naturally born with.

If gender is a "state of mind" as you progressives like to say, then there is nothing to trans. It just is what the person believes it to be.

He's confused when using his warped "logic" against him.
Run away, XO.   

Z09 » 12 Mar 2023, 1:07 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Mar 2023, 1:07 pm

Xavier once stated there's nothing wrong with a grown man giving job interviews totally naked to women...

As bizarre of a comment I've ever heard

                  I think that's the norm at Porn auditions --- nowhere else. 

Xavier_Onassis » 12 Mar 2023, 6:24 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Mar 2023, 6:24 pm

Answer this: do ALL human beings reproduce?
Clearly they do not.
There are a few people who have no interest in sex.
Not with men, not with women, not with anyone.
And they are genderless.

You are starting the argument with a FALSE PREMISE: namely, that all humans have some sort of sexual urge.
You are quite stupid.

You miss the point. I am mocking the idiots who claim to be asexual but are not. It's chic for some, you know. Expand your mind. 

Kobia2 » 12 Mar 2023, 7:37 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Mar 2023, 7:37 pm

                  I think that's the norm at Porn auditions --- nowhere else. 

Anything goes with XO. He's also a pedophile supporter.

RedheadedStranger » 12 Mar 2023, 7:08 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Mar 2023, 7:08 pm

Then there is no such thing as a "trans"gender then... by that logic. There is just gender, period.

The only "trans" would be a transsexual, which would apply to someone that has surgically altered their sex organs from what they were naturally born with.

If gender is a "state of mind" as you progressives like to say, then there is nothing to trans. It just is what the person believes it to be.

They do not dwell in the realm of science - where objective, measurable phenomena are determined.

They dwell n the domain of "feelings" - where anything is possible and nothing is verifiable and no one can be held to account - unless they hurt someone's feelings.
 

Z09 » 12 Mar 2023, 4:43 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Mar 2023, 4:43 pm

We're discussing our college professor from Miami

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Numbed up for experimental surgical procedures.
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Bob » 13 Mar 2023, 6:47 am » wrote: ↑

13 Mar 2023, 6:47 am

Numbed up for experimental surgical procedures.
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If you do not want your child to get sick or die, then you have him vaccinated.
"Bob" aka Chongo, prefers ancient forms of medicine.

Xavier_Onassis » 13 Mar 2023, 7:14 am » wrote: ↑

13 Mar 2023, 7:14 am

If you do not want your child to get sick or die, then you have him vaccinated.
"Bob" aka Chongo, prefers ancient forms of medicine.

Checking for toxins and avoiding toxins that are known to create health problems is not ancient medicine.

   A nutritional scientist with the most advanced 21st century computer microscope doing a live blood test and suggesting various vitamins, minerals and herbs is not ancient or "quack" medicine. 

 

You are claiming that dozens of vaccines that have been protecting children from diseases are all experimental and none should be taken.
You are a highly gullible imbecile.

You are not going to prevent scarlet fever with a live blood test or vitamins and minerals.

Xavier_Onassis » 13 Mar 2023, 9:17 am » wrote: ↑

13 Mar 2023, 9:17 am

You are claiming that dozens of vaccines that have been protecting children from diseases are all experimental and none should be taken.
You are a highly gullible imbecile.

You are not going to prevent scarlet fever with a live blood test or vitamins and minerals.

You take everything too seriously, woke one. And have you received your 4th open cat meat market Cov-O-chink booster yet?  

sunburn » 12 Mar 2023, 4:17 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Mar 2023, 4:17 pm

na, that means they're asexual.

asexuial and genderless are the same thing.

Vegas » 12 Mar 2023, 11:50 am » wrote: ↑

12 Mar 2023, 11:50 am

XO and Slideman both have high egos coupled with low IQs. Dangerous combination.

Slideman is just plain stupid.  He really is.  XO is educated.  To be educated like XO is, he had to have something going on in the IQ department.  True, his chosen profession is teaching spanish kids how to speak spanish to boost their GPA's.    "Como se llamo".  "Me llamo Skans".  Donde el Bano?  El Bano over their, you F-ing illegal alien!!! 

(oh, sorry, I was going to try and do better  )
 
 

Skans » 13 Mar 2023, 1:01 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Mar 2023, 1:01 pm

Slideman is just plain stupid.  He really is.  XO is educated.  To be educated like XO is, he had to have something going on in the IQ department.  True, his chosen profession is teaching spanish kids how to speak spanish to boost their GPA's.    "Como se llamo".  "Me llamo Skans".  Donde el Bano?  El Bano over their, you F-ing illegal alien!!! 

(oh, sorry, I was going to try and do better  

They are both stupid as hell. Educated or not. XO doesn't provide arguments or rebuttals. His idea of a rebuttal is to just fire off the negation of what you said. For instance, 

Me: X is true because  A, B, and C.
XO's rebuttal: X is not true. 

And that's it. 

Vegas » 13 Mar 2023, 1:05 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Mar 2023, 1:05 pm

They are both stupid as hell. Educated or not. XO doesn't provide arguments or rebuttals. His idea of a rebuttal is to just fire off the negation of what you said.
 

Oh, you are completely right about that.  I am aware that XO is not very good at debating, and he does exactly what you said.  Also, XO gets frustrated easily and is quick to jump into ad hominem attacks.

Still, I have had some discussions with him about investing and he's pretty studied on where he chooses to place his money. Also, I have no reason to doubt his touted education (over-education) credentials. 

Slideman plucks pubic hair on a My Little Pony guitar and believes he's some kind of blues musician:



 

Skans » 13 Mar 2023, 1:21 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Mar 2023, 1:21 pm

Slideman plucks pubic hair on a My Little Pony guitar and believes he's some kind of blues musician: